U.S. Military Price Estimates Guide for 2015 M3 and M4 Options and Packages

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by edwinm3

Is this a serious question?

I was howling too. I'm not even in the military nor do I have any family affiliated. They could discount cars to half price and I still wouldn't have any qualms.

Keep up the good work guys and gals.

[W///]

M3 sedan (let's say 62k)
YMB $550
LED $1900
USB $350

= $64,900 before dest, taxes and ED

[filip75]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

When I bought my 135i thru MCS it was possible. You had to pay $500 extra, though. I know a few 1M's were bought thru MCS also did Welt delivery.





You forgot Volvo.
http://www.volvocars.com/military/mi...FYrjwgodCHMASw

and...

Mercedes DOES have a MCS program...
http://www.torpedomilitarysales.com/

Porsche also has a MCS program too(you just don't get such discounts with them like BMW has)...
http://www.cars-intl.com/porsche-military-sales.html

I was talking about the US delivery cars. Porsche and MB allow in-country purchase only.

[ixse]

Originally Posted by iceman335

2015 M3: $62,000
Extended Merino Leather w/Executive Pkg: $1,100
Executive Pkg: $3,900
Driver Assist Plus: $1,900
Lighting Pkg: $1,900
MDbl-Clutch7-SpdTransw/DriveLogic $2,900
Adaptive M Suspension $1,000
19“ Black Dbl-Spoke Alloys w/Perf. Tires $1,200
Power Rear Sunshade $350
HarmanKardonPremiumSurroundSound $875
Enhanced USB Bluetooth/Smartphone Int. $350
Parallel Parking Assistant $500
Concierge Services in US $250
Active Cruise Control $1,200

Total: $79425

oh come on.. parallel parking assist? driver assist plus? this gonna be foR your wife?

[caneaddict]

why does the Cananda sheet show tanzanite blue but the US spec doesn't have tanzanite?

[rallybull]

So it is confirmed that "as per BMW" the M3 is significantly faster than the M5? 3.9s vs 4.2s to 60mph.

Actually the only current BMW vehicle to breach 4.0s 0-60 ?

[mxa121]

Pricing looks good! Now I just need to convince my militant relatives to buy one!
the coupe price increase is justified, includes nav, new platform, more carbon, lighter, and only about 4k more than the '13 coupe.

[Money2536]

From the Pentagon Car Sales Site:

"Do you qualify to participate in the BMW Military Sales Program?

Any Military/DOD member qualifies to use BMW Military Sales when:

Permanently stationed outside the USA (PCS)
Deployed (outside the USA and its territories)
TDY/TAD (outside the USA for just one day)
Flight Duty (specified destination outside the USA)
Afloat in International Waters"

So doesn't this mean you would have to be active duty military to qualify? I don't mean this in a derogatory sense, but is it responsible to be enticing young men/women to buy a rather expensive car on the meager salaries that most all military members are provided? I understand they have few other living expenses making it seem affordable, but this just seems like a very bad idea.

[csween86]

Originally Posted by Money2536

From the Pentagon Car Sales Site:

"Do you qualify to participate in the BMW Military Sales Program?

Any Military/DOD member qualifies to use BMW Military Sales when:

Permanently stationed outside the USA (PCS)
Deployed (outside the USA and its territories)
TDY/TAD (outside the USA for just one day)
Flight Duty (specified destination outside the USA)
Afloat in International Waters"

So doesn't this mean you would have to be active duty military to qualify? I don't mean this in a derogatory sense, but is it responsible to be enticing young men/women to buy a rather expensive car on the meager salaries that most all military members are provided? I understand they have few other living expenses making it seem affordable, but this just seems like a very bad idea.

Any military(active, reserve, guard) and DoD(compromised of civilian federal employees). So not just active duty military. BMW is not enticing the military, just providing a sale for service members, and not a bad idea! I bought a 135i as an E4(very low rank) and paid cash easily with plenty left over(not trying to boast, just prove a point). I still have my 135i and I am likely going to grab an M4 next... It's still growing on me It was a tad insulting though. The military makes more than you think, and as long as your not an idiot, you can easily purchase better than a 135i as military.

[jeremicium]

[QUOTE=Dackelone;15290598]When I bought my 135i thru MCS it was possible. You had to pay $500 extra, though. I know a few 1M's were bought thru MCS also did Welt delivery.

Thanks Dackelone. I'm waiting for a guy from Pentagon military sales to get me information on eurodelivery of either M4 or M235i. Willing to pay extra $500 for the chance to drive over some of the passes in the Alps, and the Nurburgring.

Originally Posted by Money2536

From the Pentagon Car Sales Site:

"Do you qualify to participate in the BMW Military Sales Program?

Any Military/DOD member qualifies to use BMW Military Sales when:

Permanently stationed outside the USA (PCS)
Deployed (outside the USA and its territories)
TDY/TAD (outside the USA for just one day)
Flight Duty (specified destination outside the USA)
Afloat in International Waters"

So doesn't this mean you would have to be active duty military to qualify? I don't mean this in a derogatory sense, but is it responsible to be enticing young men/women to buy a rather expensive car on the meager salaries that most all military members are provided? I understand they have few other living expenses making it seem affordable, but this just seems like a very bad idea.

This is a reasonable question. When I was an E-4 (Senior Airman in the Air Force. Normally you've been in for about 3 years at this point), I was not in the financial position to drive a BMW...but some are. Not that its wise to buy a $40-$50,000 car when you only make $40,000/year. Also consider, after you deploy for a year, you can easily have saved tens of thousands of dollars

Anyways, after you've been in a while, make Sergeant, or are an officer, you get compensated enough to buy a BMW and not have it be a REALLY bad financial decision.

[absoluteis350]

Hmm... Using Jason's base price of 62000, plus the military price on options, I'm hitting $73,325...

Add in CCB and we are looking at $80,825.. Christ, add BMW Individual on top of that and we are hitting $85k without taxes.. Uggghh..

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

Hmm... Using Jason's base price of 62000, plus the military price on options, I'm hitting $73,325...

Add in CCB and we are looking at $80,825.. Christ, add BMW Individual on top of that and we are hitting $85k without taxes.. Uggghh..

Well, don't have $18k worth of options then.

[s4play]

For those of you guy nearing $80k, that is pure nuts. I'm making sure my M3 is mid 60's for sure. At $85k, you might as well get the Panamera GTS

[signes]

Originally Posted by s4play

For those of you guy nearing $80k, that is pure nuts. I'm making sure my M3 is mid 60's for sure. At $85k, you might as well get the Panamera GTS

GTS is not even close, base is ~$114k plus options (which in typical P-car fashion means another $15-30k.)

Agree $85k would be nuts but with CCB and an Individual option (paint or leather) it is easy to get to.

[absoluteis350]

Originally Posted by signes

GTS is not even close, base is ~$114k plus options (which in typical P-car fashion means another $15-30k.)

Agree $85k would be nuts but with CCB and an Individual option (paint or leather) it is easy to get to.

Yea exactly... but then (I) people shouldn't be surprised since those options are pricey.. I suppose thats the price if you want a semi-custom car.. Still, even at 80k, there's nothing else I would prefer to have right now (I dislike Porsche, so no sense pointing that out again)

[Jockey]

Has anyone started talking to Pentagon MSP yet about allocations? I know they only had two 1Ms back in the day.

[s4play]

Originally Posted by signes

GTS is not even close, base is ~$114k plus options (which in typical P-car fashion means another $15-30k.)

Agree $85k would be nuts but with CCB and an Individual option (paint or leather) it is easy to get to.

At first I was thinking in the used market but even there the GTS rarely dips below $100k which is pretty good in terms of holding their resale value. I really loved this white one they had at our local dealer lightly optioned for a $118k sticker but yes that is a lot more money than any M3 ever will be.

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

Yea exactly... but then (I) people shouldn't be surprised since those options are pricey.. I suppose thats the price if you want a semi-custom car.. Still, even at 80k, there's nothing else I would prefer to have right now (I dislike Porsche, so no sense pointing that out again)

I guess you are right, at $80-90k range there is really not much out there in terms of competition so BMW lucked out there. I love P-cars however and one should not eliminate that out of their list if they only need 2 seats and can afford it. The PDK tranny is light years ahead of the BMW DCT so if you have never driven one I would go try it before you dismiss Porsche. They truly have the best tranny in the mainstream market.

[Brosef]

Originally Posted by s4play

At first I was thinking in the used market but even there the GTS rarely dips below $100k which is pretty good in terms of holding their resale value. I really loved this white one they had at our local dealer lightly optioned for a $118k sticker but yes that is a lot more money than any M3 ever will be.



I guess you are right, at $80-90k range there is really not much out there in terms of competition so BMW lucked out there. I love P-cars however and one should not eliminate that out of their list if they only need 2 seats and can afford it. The PDK tranny is light years ahead of the BMW DCT so if you have never driven one I would go try it before you dismiss Porsche. They truly have the best tranny in the mainstream market.

totally disagree. have you spent much time with the DCT? I have driven it ~30,000 miles, and I've driven at least 1,000 miles in both the 997.2 C2S and 991 C2S (both with PDK). both shift incredibly fast, but I much prefer the DCT, which seems to downshift and throttle match better. I also like that the DCT can sit at a stop in drive without moving forward until you get on the gas. makes it feel more like a manual and saves on the clutch packs.

[absoluteis350]

Originally Posted by s4play

I guess you are right, at $80-90k range there is really not much out there in terms of competition so BMW lucked out there. I love P-cars however and one should not eliminate that out of their list if they only need 2 seats and can afford it. The PDK tranny is light years ahead of the BMW DCT so if you have never driven one I would go try it before you dismiss Porsche. They truly have the best tranny in the mainstream market.

Yea.. and the further problem is in some markets (like Boston), white M3's are going to be about as common as Honda Accords given the large number of wealthy Saudi students in town. I'm not about to pony up $72k to have a car that every other clown has.. I might as well throw in the extra $$ and get the individual colors/interior.

[s4play]

Originally Posted by Brosef

totally disagree. have you spent much time with the DCT? I have driven it ~30,000 miles, and I've driven at least 1,000 miles in both the 997.2 C2S and 991 C2S (both with PDK). both shift incredibly fast, but I much prefer the DCT, which seems to downshift and throttle match better. I also like that the DCT can sit at a stop in drive without moving forward until you get on the gas. makes it feel more like a manual and saves on the clutch packs.

Yes I have a lot of time behind DCT but it didn't take long for me to figure out the issues I had with the tranny. Coming to a stop is jerky if you are in stop and go traffic and just not smooth in slow driving. Yes when you push the car hard it's a great tranny and light years ahead of it's brother SMG II.

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

Yea.. and the further problem is in some markets (like Boston), white M3's are going to be about as common as Honda Accords given the large number of wealthy Saudi students in town. I'm not about to pony up $72k to have a car that every other clown has.. I might as well throw in the extra $$ and get the individual options.

Trust me Norcal is no different but my cars rarely look like anyone else's car and it's not the BMW options that set you apart.

[karussell]

Originally Posted by filip75

It is mostly a US car maker thing, along with BMW, Nissan/Infiniti, Audi, and Range Rover (I might have forgot some). But MB and Porsche are definitely not part of this incentive.

Porsche has military pricing. They offer 3% rebate off the total of the car. Not so great when it comes to a cayenne or base 911 but when it comes to specialty cars the rebate is awesome.

[unagi]

Originally Posted by jeremicium

Anyone know if you can do a Welt Eurodelivery with the military sales program?

You can, but then you have to arrange delivery by yourself (and at your own expense) from Munich to your final destination.

BTW, for everyone who thinks military sales is a great option, FYI, military sales also has to pay at cost for delivery and insurance (about $2500 for an ///M4 to China, FWIW).