911 Turbo-S Sport Auto Supertest 7:17 'ring time

[CanAutM3]

On P-Zero Corsa, but still

[dmboone25]

[AW BMW]

Crazy time, the performance on these vehicles is staggering!

[REDEV217342]

While I think this time is great for a GT car......it costs $100K more than a ZL1 and weighs 200 lbs less. I'm just not overly impressed.

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by REDEV217342

While I think this time is great for a GT car......it costs $100K more than a ZL1 and weighs 200 lbs less. I'm just not overly impressed.

The ZL1 is significantly slower on the Ring at 7:30ish. The ZL1 1LE is a beast and ran a 7:16, but has nothing less than a race car suspension with no rubber bushings that would be absolutely brutal on the street for daily driving. Lol, I believe it was Mototrend that says the 1LE ride "flat out sucks."

[REDEV217342]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

The ZL1 is significantly slower on the Ring at 7:30ish. The ZL1 1LE is a beast and ran a 7:16, but has nothing less than a race car suspension with no rubber bushings that would be absolutely brutal on the street for daily driving. Lol, I believe it was Mototrend that says the 1LE ride "flat out sucks."

ZL1, ZL1 1LE whatever... a production street Camaro runs a 7:16. A C7Z06 is even better yet at 7:13 and can be had for $85K. Not impressed with the 991 Ring time.

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by REDEV217342

While I think this time is great for a GT car......it costs $100K more than a ZL1 and weighs 200 lbs less. I'm just not overly impressed.

Do yourself a favor and visit YouTube and watch the Turbo S Exclusive being Built. You’ll no longer wonder why it cost $200k. Porsche is in just a different league. Different class...oh...and it’s engineered with an engine in the rear and still murders everything.

[Rambler]

This is about where I would expect this car to be, perhaps a little slower than expected. Overall, not mind blowing compared to the current competition but still ridiculously fast. At these levels, every second becomes an exponential increase.

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by REDEV217342

ZL1, ZL1 1LE whatever... a production street Camaro runs a 7:16. A C7Z06 is even better yet at 7:13 and can be had for $85K. Not impressed with the 991 Ring time.

The point was the ZL1 !LE that runs a 7:16 has a race car suspension with no rubber bushings that basically cannot be driven on street. There are trade offs and the 991.2 turbo S runs the same time with a suspension that is very comfortable and compliant and easily usable as a daily driver.

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by Rambler

This is about where I would expect this car to be, perhaps a little slower than expected. Overall, not mind blowing compared to the current competition but still ridiculously fast. At these levels, every second becomes an exponential increase.

I agree. Not mind blowing, but the fact it is not mind-blowing in and of itself speaks volumes about just how capable cars are today. Mind blowing how fast and how well street legal, daily driveable cars handle with fair amount of ease these days.

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

I agree. Not mind blowing, but the fact it is not mind-blowing in and of itself speaks volumes about just how capable cars are today. Mind blowing how fast and how well street legal, daily driveable cars handle with fair amount of ease these days.

Agree, that’s what I was thinking as well. When you watch the vids of these times, they are downright scary in many sections. It’s incredble that more and more cars are approaching these levels.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by REDEV217342

While I think this time is great for a GT car......it costs $100K more than a ZL1 and weighs 200 lbs less. I'm just not overly impressed.

Just for the sake of an apple to apple comparison, Sport Auto ran 7:17 with 991.2 turbo S while GM test driver on basically slicks ran 7:16 with zl1 le. If sport auto were to test zl1 le it may be a few seconds slower than 7:16. Nevertheless impressive time for zl1.

[REDEV217342]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

The point was the ZL1 !LE that runs a 7:16 has a race car suspension with no rubber bushings that basically cannot be driven on street. There are trade offs and the 991.2 turbo S runs the same time with a suspension that is very comfortable and compliant and easily usable as a daily driver.

See Z06. Daily driver with even more compliant ride that is faster than the $200K 991.2 Turbo S at 50% the price

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by Rambler

Agree, that’s what I was thinking as well. When you watch the vids of these times, they are downright scary in many sections. It’s incredble that more and more cars are approaching these levels.

Jeez, it seemed like only yesterday when cars just started breaking the 8:00 barrier and most of them were pretty sketchy at the level of performance.

[REDEV217342]

Originally Posted by dgp

Just for the sake of an apple to apple comparison, Sport Auto ran 7:17 with 991.2 turbo S while GM test driver on basically slicks ran 7:16 with zl1 le. If sport auto were to test zl1 le it may be a few seconds slower than 7:16. Nevertheless impressive time for zl1.

Basically slicks? What do you call the Trofeos used here? Basically slicks

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by REDEV217342

See Z06. Daily driver with even more compliant ride that is faster than the $200K 991.2 Turbo S at 50% the price

The 991.2 turbo S is definitely the compromise platform. That same platform optimized for the track ran a 6:47 and even the GT2 RS has a more compliant suspension than the ZL1 1LE for public street purposes.

That said, I like the new Z06. Wouldn't buy one. The turbo is more a complete package to me and mine is our cabriolet.

Fact is, the 991.2 has plenty of performance for me for the street. My purchase decisions are driven by factors other than just Ring times. It, however, is wild to see cars performing at these levels.

[nicknaz]

Awesome time by the Turbo, since it's the "fast executive commuter" version, not the "track toy" version of the platform

I agree with rev, I would skimp on the lux and comfort and get the American sports car for cheaper but those buying a new turbo S as their commuter probably have a track star in the garage already anyway

[dgp]

Originally Posted by REDEV217342

Basically slicks? What do you call the Trofeos used here? Basically slicks

Use same tire compound on 911 turbo s as zl1 and same driver and I think 911 turbo S will be faster. Randy pobst ran 1.24:2 at willow springs with 911.2 turbo S while current gen z06 best lap time with same driver at track is 1.25:0. And i think z06 is much quicker than zl1 le.
Also laguna seca laptimes betweeen 911 turbo S and z06 were similar in 1.33s range (same driver). I believe zl1 le was about 1s slower at laguna.

On the street the turbo S is way faster in straight line than either GM vehicle unmodded.

[Rambler]

One other car I didn’t see mentioned here for comparison sake is the AMG GT, especially the GT-R. Price wise, it’s perhaps a good comparison to the Turbo and can also be driven quite comfortably. Just missing back seats but that wouldn’t mattter to me. If that’s too harsh, even the regular GTs are damn fast and look great imo.

[A418t81]

Not bad considering it'll ventilate your rear while you are driving the ring. I've enjoyed mine so far, but it needs some more sound a bit more power. Exhaust soon.

[adc]

Originally Posted by A418t81

Not bad considering it'll ventilate your rear while you are driving the ring. I've enjoyed mine so far, but it needs some more sound a bit more power. Exhaust soon.

Not the one in the video it won’t. It has carbon buckets and a harness.

[A418t81]

Originally Posted by adc

Not the one in the video it won’t. It has carbon buckets and a harness.

Ha, good point.