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      01-14-2014, 03:55 PM   #177
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Honestly a lot of you guys are raving about the price, but I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of $80k+ M3's rolling around....that's not all that great.
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Honestly a lot of you guys are raving about the price, but I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of $80k+ M3's rolling around....that's not all that great.
You're probably right, but for now the base price looks real good. The biggest question now, for me, is whether the LCI/ZCP will be a model year 2 introduction a la the M5.
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I think the starting prices are nice, but a decently loaded M3 will easily top $70K. I can't think of too many other 4 door sedans that match the performance off the top of my head besides the C63. They priced it right with the times and with the evolution of the car. Sadly, $70K is a huge difference from 10 years ago where and E46 M3 would've cost $55K and this reduces the amount of potential customers that'd like to acquire the M3/M4.
Easy solution to this...don't buy one.
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      01-14-2014, 04:04 PM   #180
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Honestly a lot of you guys are raving about the price, but I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of $80k+ M3's rolling around....that's not all that great.
$62k MSRP. Exec package might be $5k, maybe a few other options. I can see a lot of $71-73k M3's rolling around, but unless the CCB's are a must have I don't see it.
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Honestly a lot of you guys are raving about the price, but I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of $80k+ M3's rolling around....that's not all that great.
Yeah, for the guys that tick every box possible. Most of us won't be buying fully optioned cars. Hell, just passing on DCT and CCB will probably save about $10k.

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$62k MSRP. Exec package might be $5k, maybe a few other options. I can see a lot of $71-73k M3's rolling around, but unless the CCB's are a must have I don't see it.
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      01-14-2014, 04:04 PM   #182
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F80: 61,550
E90: 55,400

More than $6k or about 10% increase. Rather hefty but expected. I stick to me estimate that the average build will be around $75k for these.
You are talking 2008 prices, in 2011 the last year for the sedan (E90) they based at $58K. Not to mention there is more standard equimpent then what was released with the E90M3 in 2008.

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      01-14-2014, 04:06 PM   #183
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You are talking 2008 prices, in 2011 the last year for the sedan (E90) they based at $58K. Not to mention there is more standard equimpent then what was released with the E90M3 in 2008.

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People like to pick & choose what fits their arguments. Just poking solstice.
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      01-14-2014, 04:08 PM   #184
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People like to pick & choose what fits their arguments. Just poking solstice.
What? I have my E90 M3 2011 sticker right here. $55,400 base. No more, no less.
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      01-14-2014, 04:11 PM   #185
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What? I have my E90 M3 2011 sticker right here. $55,400 base. No more, no less.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345646

He rounded up (..albeit generously) and included destination, etc.
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      01-14-2014, 04:14 PM   #186
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Haha! Get the same car as me and keep the E92, then we'll be twins. Are you considering getting one Alex?
Yes, nothing certain but I'll probably consider getting one next year or the year after, but unfortunetly that would mean I would have to get rid of my e92, I also have an Evo X as a winter beater so as much as I love my M3 I can't really keep all these cars!
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      01-14-2014, 04:18 PM   #187
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      01-14-2014, 04:18 PM   #188
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345646

He rounded up (..albeit generously) and included destination, etc.
Well, then do that for the F80 as well. I used base price for both, base price apples to apples. Btw the destination charge is slightly higher on the F80.

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I agree but he said it's the best performance bargain. There's nothing I can think of I can afford I would take over a M4.
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      01-14-2014, 04:50 PM   #190
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Just saw UK M3/M4 order guide.
http://www.redoak.co.uk/images/m3pricelist.pdf

It seems like UK M3/M4 gets 19 inch wheel as standard option. 18 inch option doesn't even exist in order guide.
Also metallic paint is no cost option for them, too.
Thanks for the link to the UK price list PDF. Very informative.

UK has only 3 packages, Media Package, Active Security Package, and Advanced Parking Package. There are a lot of standard options and a long list of non-standard options.

The list won't match what we get in the US, but should give us an idea on all the available options a la carte.

I recommend all potential F8x US buyers take a look at this UK price list while we wait for the US price list.
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      01-14-2014, 04:52 PM   #191
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Thanks for the link to the UK price list PDF. Very informative.

UK has only 3 packages, Media Package, Active Security Package, and Advanced Parking Package. There are a lot of standard options and a long list of non-standard options.

The list won't match what we get in the US, but should give us an idea on all the available options a la carte.

I recommend all potential F8x US buyers take a look at this UK price list while we wait for the US price list.
I agree and think it should have it's own thread or be added to Jason's post in the start of this thread.
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      01-14-2014, 04:57 PM   #192
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I don't know what you mean by this

I am talking about the 2015 m3...
That so far only outside the USA you see standard Nav in the M3. So those UK configurations for the F80/F82 mean nothing -as you stated- standard equipment-wise in the USA.

But at the same time, the $3750/$4500 increases must include some quite significant increase in standard equipment.
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      01-14-2014, 05:07 PM   #194
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Relatively, the increase is proportional.

The 2011.75 E90 M3 base MSRP was around ~$57,000, the 2013 E92 M3 was ~$60,000. The F80 is $4500 and the F82 $3750 more than their counterparts. Considering the carbon fiber roof of the Sedan then the increase in inline with the Coupe's.

The real question is, are these increases proportional to an increase in standard equipment?
I thought the E90 M3 was closer to $55,000?
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Thanks for the link to the UK price list PDF. Very informative.

UK has only 3 packages, Media Package, Active Security Package, and Advanced Parking Package. There are a lot of standard options and a long list of non-standard options.

The list won't match what we get in the US, but should give us an idea on all the available options a la carte.

I recommend all potential F8x US buyers take a look at this UK price list while we wait for the US price list.
Looks like we will pay $7500 for the carbon rotors. Still a good deal considering it's front and rear.

UK has the adaptive suspension standard.
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Honestly a lot of you guys are raving about the price, but I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of $80k+ M3's rolling around....that's not all that great.
Especially after the LCI update in 2 years when the ZCP package becomes available.

Base price + ZCP + DCT + CCBs + convenience or technology packages + M Performance exhaust and CF bits = $90,000 car.
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Especially after the LCI update in 2 years when the ZCP package becomes available.

Base price + ZCP + DCT + CCBs + convenience or technology packages + M Performance exhaust and CF bits = $90,000 car.
Exactly....and honestly there IS a lot of value in this car if you keep it conservative.

Overall, the price is what it is.....good value for modest options, and a little too rich if you want it fully optioned.....which is the same way it goes for every single BMW model.
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- ATS-V sport is not a true "V" vehicle (Cadillac as of today said even if they do build an ATS-V, it won't be cheap, dynamically, the 3 series is far ahead of the ATS)
???

How is the 3 series "far ahead" of the ATS? Having driven both, the base ATS is quite a better for handling and steering than a 335i. Pretty much every journalist and engineer that I know that's driven them would agree.

The M3 is a different animal, but so is the V series. There's no guarantee that the M3 will be better than its competition this time around.


I also think you're taking their comments out of context. He didn't officially comment that there would be an ATS-V, but it's basically a foregone conclusion at this point, it's just a matter of when they announce it. And the "not cheap" comment just means that the pricing will end up more in line with the M3. If the content is there, this is perfectly fine.
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