Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by swagon

T with buckets/rear seat delete and manual seems an interesting experience and the only right choice to me.

Does not make sense when it's a bloated spec with PDK.

Agreed. -T mostly makes sense with a manual and CF bucket seats. Makes it sort of a budget -GTS.

Personally, I’d prefer the added power and practicality of an -S.

[Jockey]

Definitely going manual.

IMO, the buckets seem too much for what I'll use mostly as a DD/canyon car.

Really I'm trying to convince myself if the extra power (and bigger brakes) on the S are worth the premium.

I'd option both the T and S similar.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Definitely going manual.

IMO, the buckets seem too much for what I'll use mostly as a DD/canyon car.

Really I'm trying to convince myself if the extra power (and bigger brakes) on the S are worth the premium.

I'd option both the T and S similar.

These days it comes down to what ever you can get an allocation for.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Definitely going manual.

IMO, the buckets seem too much for what I'll use mostly as a DD/canyon car.

Really I'm trying to convince myself if the extra power (and bigger brakes) on the S are worth the premium.

I'd option both the T and S similar.

Go for the -S. 70hp is not negligible and comparably specced, there’s little price difference between the two.

[minn19]

I would’ve gone for an S, but I’d still be on a waiting list so I got a GTS.

I’ve riled up the T guys enough on RL (only once, said my peace and moved on) so I’ll do it here to I guess. I don’t get a Carrera 911 without rear seats and with LWBS. I’d either get a GT4 or 718 GTS 4.0. They are lighter and drive better IMO if ultimate driving feel is the goal. Also they have a more unique engine with more HP.

It would be hard for me to not at least get an S for the extra HP and bigger brakes. But, these are my personal preferences so YMMV.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by M3WC

These days it comes down to what ever you can get an allocation for.

You shouldn't have issues with allocations now. 911 especially since Porsche focuses on them.

I'd also go for the S but I would premise that, I don't like the smaller brakes on the T trims in general. That honestly bothers me. That said, the C2S is fairly more expensive than the T with options. So... look at how much it will cost you and go from there but yeah, I go with S.

[icegrill]

Originally Posted by Arcades

You shouldn't have issues with allocations now. 911 especially since Porsche focuses on them.

I'd also go for the S but I would premise that, I don't like the smaller brakes on the T trims in general. That honestly bothers me. That said, the C2S is fairly more expensive than the T with options. So... look at how much it will cost you and go from there but yeah, I go with S.

I’m 6 months into my T/S allocation wait. I’m supposedly number 3. Who knows.. My 992 C2 has solidified my want for a manual vs the pdk.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by icegrill

I’m 6 months into my T/S allocation wait. I’m supposedly number 3. Who knows.. My 992 C2 has solidified my want for a manual vs the pdk.

I would bet Soon TM.

Definitely a 2024 car T or S. Probably end of this year I am guessing if you really are #3.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Arcades

GrussGott You know what I thought I would see far more?

Lucid Air. I only know of 1 in my area and in fact there are more McLarens and Ferraris here than Lucid.

Hey, good point! yeah, that's true, I've only see one in the wild and a friend has one.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by Ilyam5

I do not think I have seen people that excited about the car since e46 M3

I think I would add this to my garage if it were RWD or AWD. Really cool car

[NickyC]

I'm not a big fan of FWD either, but I tell ya it's a hoot to drive my mom's Mini Cooper S from time to time. Fun little go cart and don't mind the wrong wheel drive.

[stein_325i]

It does look very good in my opinion. Its definitely a bit pricey around $52k, especially when the CTR is $10k less, looks much better than the last generation and comes with the great Recaros. Looks like it has a few niceties the CTR doesn't get (HUD, ELS Audio, etc.) but definitely a tough pill to swallow price wise.

[Humdizzle]

it looks to be a terrific car. but overpriced. 52k and you get a FWD 1.5 turbo-4 based on a civic. I would have to take a hard look at a m240i, granted it isn't a manual, but then the integra is wrong wheel drive with half the displacement.

will probably hold value better than the 240 though.

[Humdizzle]

Also my buddy just showed up at his porsche dealer a few weeks ago lucked into a T allocation that will be here in early august. i guess someone backed out of their build that was closing on 6/2 and he jumped in. car will be here in august. shark blue with manual.

sad news is he's getting rid of his r8 v10 manual. but says he may try to buy it back one day, making the new owner sign a right to first refusal if he decides to sell.

my other friend got hung out to dry by the same dealer. paid 60k+ over stick for his gt4rs in good faith he'd get a 3RS allocation at near sticker. now it doesn't look like its happening.

[icegrill]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

Also my buddy just showed up at his porsche dealer a few weeks ago lucked into a T allocation that will be here in early august. i guess someone backed out of their build that was closing on 6/2 and he jumped in. car will be here in august. shark blue with manual.

sad news is he's getting rid of his r8 v10 manual. but says he may try to buy it back one day, making the new owner sign a right to first refusal if he decides to sell.

my other friend got hung out to dry by the same dealer. paid 60k+ over stick for his gt4rs in good faith he'd get a 3RS allocation at near sticker. now it doesn't look like its happening.

Unfortunately this sounds about right. It’s not an enjoyable experience to deal with Porsche dealers as the 911 market is so callous. I’m on the fence of selling my C2 back for the best price in hopes of securing a T/S allocation before years end. No clear cut answer

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

my other friend got hung out to dry by the same dealer. paid 60k+ over stick for his gt4rs in good faith he'd get a 3RS allocation at near sticker. now it doesn't look like its happening.

I'm as big a capitalist as it gets and a proponent of supply and demand but 60K over sticker is a form of theft. Dealers doing this will sooner or later incur the wrath of mother Porsche.

[AlpineBoost]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

it looks to be a terrific car. but overpriced. 52k and you get a FWD 1.5 turbo-4 based on a civic. I would have to take a hard look at a m240i, granted it isn't a manual, but then the integra is wrong wheel drive with half the displacement.

will probably hold value better than the 240 though.

It's a tough sell for sure. The ITS and CTR have a 2.0, but I get your point. Not the worst thing if you can actually get a CTR for $44k but it still feels overpriced by $3-4k to me. I had a '95 coupe and a '02 RSX-S, and while I loved those cars I just can't wrap my head around $51k for an Integra.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

Also my buddy just showed up at his porsche dealer a few weeks ago lucked into a T allocation that will be here in early august. i guess someone backed out of their build that was closing on 6/2 and he jumped in. car will be here in august. shark blue with manual.

sad news is he's getting rid of his r8 v10 manual. but says he may try to buy it back one day, making the new owner sign a right to first refusal if he decides to sell.

my other friend got hung out to dry by the same dealer. paid 60k+ over stick for his gt4rs in good faith he'd get a 3RS allocation at near sticker. now it doesn't look like its happening.

There is next to no way that is going to happen. Especially for the 992 GT3RS. The dealership would lose too much money on it.

In LA, the markup on the GT4RS is around 50k to 75k depending on when you did it and sadly the case is, most of these cars (on allocation) already have a owner waiting as most dealers should have been notified how many GT4RS they will receive for 2024. That was the case for DTLA and many others here. That is going to be more or less the same for the 992 GT3RS as well. And for a car that was originally fetching $150k on markup, even in markets with not as much customers, there will not be a huge chance the markups on the GT3RS is going to just up and disappear.

That is sadly wishful thinking, like a lot of RLers tend to do. Though I will say, cars in Cali and Florida will generally be higher in price for mark ups because the market here is huge and there aren't really a shortage of people with screw you money. Unless you get a crazy color like Acid Green and make it hard as heck to sell (that car is STILL there btw). Oh, I should say also the 50 to 55k is mainly through brokers, that is about the only real way. I do know of one that used to be on the forums here, so I did ask.

My guess on what happened is the dealership he is working with realized they aren't getting nearly as many cars as they thought they would. Hence they cannot keep to their word.

[Arcades]

And btw I hate saying it but 60k markup on a GT4RS in LA is already very generous. These cars, the GT4RS and Spyder RS, as we know it, are the last of its kind. Hence why the costs of them are so stubborn. Prices of them may vary but once they go out of production, these prices will be harder to find.

As much as a 997 GT3RS? Probably not but who knows, it is hard to tell.

A 718 with a GT3 engine is just too special. It is what everyone wanted in the first place and we may only get them for… 2 to 3 years depending on what Porsche does (which we don’t know.)

[THEROK]

Anyone willing to refer me to a trustworthy Porsche LA sales rep? I'm in the market for either a 2018-19 GT3 or new GTS optioned up to my spec. Been trying to like it as it's half the cost, but the G80/2 slush box, weight gain and porcine grill officially lost my M biz.

Gracias.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by AlpineBoost

It's a tough sell for sure. The ITS and CTR have a 2.0, but I get your point. Not the worst thing if you can actually get a CTR for $44k but it still feels overpriced by $3-4k to me. I had a '95 coupe and a '02 RSX-S, and while I loved those cars I just can't wrap my head around $51k for an Integra.

The average new car transaction price is approaching $60k in the US. It’s also hard for me to wrap my head around $140k for a new X5 M, but new car prices have skyrocketed.

I think $45-$55k for the FL5/ITS cars is about right. It’s what you pay for a Golf R as well, and Id argue these are more special. I spent 500 miles in an FL5 this year and it was amazing. Great manual, high quality interior, and a superb drive.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

it looks to be a terrific car. but overpriced. 52k and you get a FWD 1.5 turbo-4 based on a civic. I would have to take a hard look at a m240i, granted it isn't a manual, but then the integra is wrong wheel drive with half the displacement.

will probably hold value better than the 240 though.

I had no idea it was $52k. I guess that makes sense, though, considering inflation over time. (Please note, I am NOT talking about this current administration... I'm talking inflation over decades.) I mean, the M3 went from $45k for E36 and is now running $100k easy. Or if you go base, F80 was $65k and the new one is what... $75k? All cars have gone way up in price since the last Integra was actually on the market. So, while $52k is a lot of money, it might actually be reasonable comparing inflation since the last ITR was available. Maybe an economist on here can tell us if the Integra has exceeded inflation or not. ha