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Now, those (optional) OLEDs on the other hand...
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At least we now know that, with 5AN being an option, BMW plans to bring these into mass production, meaning greater accessibility (theoretically)
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Is it better for safety? Lasts longer than the car will be around? Uses less W so more HP?
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By the way, that $1500 figure is just a SWAG, but IIRC the parts cost for the GTS tails is an into-the-thousands-of-dollars figure. I think a set of LED headlights is $1000-ish at the parts counter vs. the $1900 option price, so at $1500 for the OLED option vs. the parts cost to buy them ex-post facto, it might even be a deal. Or I could be off in my guess; it's possible since there are so many variables at play here that it's tough to call. But I suspect I'm in the ballpark. It may also be that there is a new lighting package that covers both headlights and taillights. I could see that being a thing, and while you could still perhaps order just the LED headlights stand alone (or maybe they become standard on the M4, or even higher level 440i, like an MSport), you can then perhaps only get the OLED taillights in the package. Just thinking out loud. |
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1500 dollars would be a bargain as the GTS OLEDs are available for roughly 6000 eur, so I don't think they will much lower them for the lci option, if there really is one.
I admit to be a fanboy of the OLEDs, this pic of the LCI has not really hit me... OLEDs currently for sale on eBay from a Lithuanian seller or so... not sure however if that's a trusted source or just stolen... |
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Another variable: The non-GTS OLED may be different part from the GTS OLED, even though they look similar in blurry spy pics. I'm not sure what could be done to bring costs down, but then I'm not automotive lighting expert either. |
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Really? You sound uptight. The "Civic M3" reference has been around forever, and it didn't begin with the F8X. It began with the E46.
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I think $1500 is way too much to expect for OLED at production scale, the GTS was only 800 ish units so no scale for the molds etc... if a 55inch OLED TV is only $2k and i would argue much more complex than taillights for an automobile, my guess is these will be rolled into an option package, lighting, track, etc at a minimal price increase of a few hundred bucks of what the package was pre LCI
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does the 55" TV drive down the road ? Does it need to repel water and dirt and deal with condensation ? Does it need to be able to perform the same 4 years later after sitting in direct sun many days a year? Does the television need to survive being driven over rough roads, railroad tracks, and other impacts for years? Does the TV need to survive a 5mph impact test? let's use your TV analogy though.... How much is a 55" NON OLED tv ? $500 and a 55" OLED Tv is $2000 using your figure.. .. interesting... so it's $1500 more for a 55" OLED TV... and apparently that makes sense... but $1500 for OLED taillights. that are smaller.. and " less complex"... but have to deal with much harsher conditions and (as an OEM option) have a warranty that is as much as 4-20 times as long as a television warranty.. " NO WAY... that's a total ripoff! " .... Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 12-02-2016 at 04:06 PM.. |
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Nice to know that OLEDs will be an option. I expect this to surpass the 2000 mark if the LED headlights cost of 1900 tells any story. The manufacturing costs of OLED technology versus the current reflector headlight mechanism of the LED headlights is greater. BMW is not known for "eating the costs" of production so we should expect the costs to trickle down to us the consumer.
I'm thinking a minimum cost of entry of 2500 in addition to the existing 1900 in order to get OLEDs. Time will tell.
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Are you retrofitting these from your pre LCI holiday lights ?
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