Next Level Auto Brokers
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > BMW M3 (F80) and BMW M4 (F82) General Forum

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-09-2018, 11:43 AM   #1
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

Need to get out of lease, trying to understand my car’s value

Hi. I recently had a family situation and am trying to swap my lease on my 2017 M3. Below is a link to the ad. Someone told me that the buyout price is more that my car is worth. How can I find out what this price is?

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1450556
Appreciate 1
      01-09-2018, 11:54 AM   #2
moonluv810
Captain
moonluv810's Avatar
No_Country
2493
Rep
616
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW X3, 2018 BMW M3, 2022
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Erie, CO

iTrader: (0)

I'm sorry to hear about your personal situation.

I think what most people are saying, BMW offered significant incentives in November and December (I'm not sure if it's still happening) that brought selling price 10%-12% less than MSRP for brand new cars, either for leasing, financing or buying out right.

In your case, MSRP was $83K and buyout now is still at $80K.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 11:59 AM   #3
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the info. Here is the latest from BMWFS:

Quote Date 12/29/2017
Good Through* 1/24/2018
Total Lease Payoff $80,728.52
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 12:13 PM   #4
M_DRlVER
Second Lieutenant
178
Rep
215
Posts

Drives: 2015 M3
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

I’m looking at taking over another lease. I saw your car over the last few days, very clean and it has peaked my interest, however...I’m able to lease a BRAND NEW 2018 M3 from the dealer for about 200 less a month than what youre asking. Until your able to get those monthly payments around 850-950, I don’t think this car will be going anywhere. Similarly, I can get a used well option M3 lease transfer for 750-850.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 12:28 PM   #5
RickFLM4
Brigadier General
RickFLM4's Avatar
United_States
10968
Rep
4,821
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: PB County, FL

iTrader: (0)

Yeah, even with $5K incentive, $1,228 / mo. seems like an awful high starting point. OP, did you roll negative equity into the lease or something?
__________________
Current: 2018 SO/SS F83 ZCP
Gone: 2015 SO/SO F82
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 12:33 PM   #6
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for you honesty and help. A poster made an offer for $8k incentive. Which would get close to the payments you suggest.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 12:37 PM   #7
Parabolica
Major
Canada
581
Rep
1,120
Posts

Drives: '18 M3 ZCP 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Try posting on auto trader or cars.com. People on this board are too 'smart'.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 12:38 PM   #8
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

No , I didnt put any money down...
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 03:42 PM   #9
Time Lord
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Time Lord's Avatar
United_States
125
Rep
698
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80 ZCP
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NW Florida

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M_DRlVER View Post
I’m looking at taking over another lease. I saw your car over the last few days, very clean and it has peaked my interest, however...I’m able to lease a BRAND NEW 2018 M3 from the dealer for about 200 less a month than what youre asking. Until your able to get those monthly payments around 850-950, I don’t think this car will be going anywhere. Similarly, I can get a used well option M3 lease transfer for 750-850.
theres 10k off on 2018s now. almost makes sense just to buy/lease new.
__________________
2018 F80 ZCP
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 04:49 PM   #10
uniqueMR
Colonel
uniqueMR's Avatar
1882
Rep
2,924
Posts

Drives: ...
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica View Post
Try posting on auto trader or cars.com. People on this board are too 'smart'.
True
__________________
Currently: '24 Mercedes G63 | '24 Porsche GT3 RS | '24 Volkswagen GTI
Previous BMWs: 340i, 740i, 745Li, M3, M4
Previous Others: Audi, Ducati, Honda, Infiniti, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz, MINI, Mitsubishi, Porsche, Toyota, Volkswagen
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 04:50 PM   #11
uniqueMR
Colonel
uniqueMR's Avatar
1882
Rep
2,924
Posts

Drives: ...
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Have you posted or tried on swapalease.com ??
__________________
Currently: '24 Mercedes G63 | '24 Porsche GT3 RS | '24 Volkswagen GTI
Previous BMWs: 340i, 740i, 745Li, M3, M4
Previous Others: Audi, Ducati, Honda, Infiniti, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz, MINI, Mitsubishi, Porsche, Toyota, Volkswagen
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 05:00 PM   #12
hi_officer
Private First Class
150
Rep
188
Posts

Drives: something fast
Join Date: May 2017
Location: somewhere slow

iTrader: (0)

In for $20k incentive
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 06:38 PM   #13
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

Yes I have it posted on SwapaLease also. If you are comfortable would you mind telling my what you guys paid for your M3's? How much down, year, lease or buy ballpark monthly? Not trying to pry, just learn. What is the monthly/down payment for a 2018?
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 06:45 PM   #14
RickFLM4
Brigadier General
RickFLM4's Avatar
United_States
10968
Rep
4,821
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: PB County, FL

iTrader: (0)

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1349306
__________________
Current: 2018 SO/SS F83 ZCP
Gone: 2015 SO/SO F82
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2018, 09:57 PM   #15
alex2364
Colonel
alex2364's Avatar
2860
Rep
2,752
Posts

Drives: 2020 M4 ZCP / 2023 X3 M40i
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Northern VA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2020 BMW M4  [10.00]
2023 BMW X3 M40i  [10.00]
Take it to a BMW dealer or CarMax and see what they will give you for it. As for monthly payment, you need to be under what most people can get for a new car at the dealer because there would be no reason for someone to take over your lease. I’m paying $950/month for a $82k M4 with $0 down and tax and all fees rolled into the payment. If I paid tax and fees up front, I’d probably be at $850/month.
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2018, 01:13 AM   #16
ONE1
Second Lieutenant
No_Country
125
Rep
244
Posts

Drives: 2021 M3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jameshp View Post
Yes I have it posted on SwapaLease also. If you are comfortable would you mind telling my what you guys paid for your M3's? How much down, year, lease or buy ballpark monthly? Not trying to pry, just learn. What is the monthly/down payment for a 2018?
The incentives the last few months made it an unusually good time to buy. This wasn't the case all year long. I'd guess that prices will tick back up, especially as production winds down later this year. This might make your car more competitive.

There's also different factors that draw some buyers to assuming a lease over buying new (such as the desire for a shorter lease term, extra miles per month, etc) but the monthly payment is going to make this one a hard sell. No doubt you'll have better luck on Swapalease. Good luck.
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2018, 06:42 AM   #17
gatorfast
Major General
gatorfast's Avatar
United_States
4995
Rep
6,862
Posts

Drives: 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SoFla

iTrader: (4)

Yikes OP good luck getting rid of it. Once you do I recommend buying an inexpensive and reliable car to get you around for a while so you can educate yourself on how leasing and car buying in general works. Not trying to be a prick - but you are doomed to repeat the same mistake unless you do some research and learn more.
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2018, 07:20 AM   #18
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

QUESTION...for those of you who have swapped a leased vehicle before, how does it reflect on your credit? Does it show up as paid? AND, once BMW finalizes the transfer, I am FREE of ALL legal responsibilites on the vehicle correct?
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2018, 08:45 AM   #19
hi_officer
Private First Class
150
Rep
188
Posts

Drives: something fast
Join Date: May 2017
Location: somewhere slow

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jameshp View Post
QUESTION...for those of you who have swapped a leased vehicle before, how does it reflect on your credit? Does it show up as paid? AND, once BMW finalizes the transfer, I am FREE of ALL legal responsibilites on the vehicle correct?
I exited out and entered into a lease with Swapalease. It will always show on your credit, but it should say completed or current or whatever. And if you intend to buy a house or another car with a loan, you can explain that you transferred the lease and are not liable anymore.

Be careful though, some leasing companies keep you as a liable party even if you transfer the lease. BMW does not keep you liable, but Nissan/Infiniti, VW/Audi/Porsche, and a few others DO keep you liable.

Also, with BMW there is a $100 credit app fee and a $400 transfer fee imposed by BMW to be paid by you or new buyer.
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2018, 08:57 AM   #20
jameshp
Enlisted Member
8
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: future m3
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the info. I may enter into a lease after this, how do you get the car honestly inspected if its out of state?
Appreciate 0
      01-10-2018, 09:03 AM   #21
hi_officer
Private First Class
150
Rep
188
Posts

Drives: something fast
Join Date: May 2017
Location: somewhere slow

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jameshp View Post
Thanks for the info. I may enter into a lease after this, how do you get the car honestly inspected if its out of state?
If you have a friend near the car ask him to go look at it. Look at the carfax.

Is it worth doing a full PPI? Maybe, maybe not. It's a lease with a factory warranty still intact. As long as nothing would cost you more at the end of the lease during trade-in I wouldn't worry about it.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2018, 02:44 AM   #22
drgmt
Lieutenant Colonel
Australia
985
Rep
1,885
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Australia

iTrader: (1)

How can someone be liable for a lease after it is transferred to someone else?
Appreciate 0
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:51 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST