1900 mile gts for 114k?

Miamistv · 07-21-2017, 02:46 PM

A regular M3 or M4 Convertible is loaded up is over 90k. I have many cars with values from 50k to over 400k, including a 911 Turbo S currently and many P cars in the past. (overall they cannot be beat and an RS would be preferred, although one must also recognize and additional 100k in outlay) There is no way an M4GTS is a 90k car. One has to take it for what it is which is a Track car that can be driven on the street. Most people do not have more than one car and an M4GTS would be a poor choice for an everyday driver. It has a different feel than a "normal" street cars and it is an occasion to drive. It is a tremendous amount of fun and my choice for doing canyon runs. I only drive it for fun times in the car. As far as selling under sticker, I certainly did not think they would go under MSRP and am surprised. The 1M did the same thing when it came out, but I think this is much more of a car to the regular line up than the 1M was to its vintage. The Z8 was another car that at one point was under sticker. Although the beauty of the Z8 is timeless and undeniable. Anyway, I suspect the M4GTS will do well in the long run when all of the inventory is gone and more are exposed to the special qualities of this vehicle. If you have not driven one after the break in and have not whipped around nasty turns in this car, then your speculation is of little value. Those who have had significant seat time and have put the car through its paces will have no issue extolling its many positive virtues and the smile that the car put on their face.

jpdchicago · 07-21-2017, 03:08 PM

Agree. I drive mine as much as I can (even to, and back from work) and it cannot be compared with a regular (competition-package or not) M3/M4. It is a visceral experience every time I drive it...sound and road feel are stunning.
This, coming out of 12 years of M3s.
It will always be a very special car. If you can get you hands on one, go ahead but I would not wait too long.

robbys3m3 · 07-21-2017, 03:18 PM

Thx for all the help! I'm hoping on a plane to STL and picking up a 100 mile 'Used' one in an hour...alpine white so will match the majority of our fleet (which satisfies my ocd

jpdchicago · 07-21-2017, 03:22 PM

Congrats!
You will love it.
Pictures please when you have a chance. Took mine to M-vade Chicago last weekend and it can be seen on some of the pictures/videos.
This car is just too much fun!

Captain Unknown GT4 · 07-21-2017, 04:17 PM

Just a few days ago I came back from Nurburgring, and did now drive the M4 CP. Even its a nice car It feels totaly dead compare to GTS. So I totaly understand the price point (from new)

rosenbergendo · 07-21-2017, 08:28 PM

Drove one. Compared to my 15 GT3 (same price basically) and 16RS I thought it sucked. It is max a 90k car and will be in 6 months. And I love my DD f80 JB4 M3 FYI.

BarryB · 07-21-2017, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo

Drove one. Compared to my 15 GT3 (same price basically) and 16RS I thought it sucked. It is max a 90k car and will be in 6 months. And I love my DD f80 JB4 M3 FYI.

?
Don't buy one. Lucky we all done like the same thing.

robbys3m3 · 07-21-2017, 09:17 PM

En route home... my wife driving first but so far so good.. can't wait to drive it next...f80 for sale soon

jpdchicago · 07-21-2017, 10:32 PM

Congrats again. Thanks for the pics. I would not extend that lip on the road though... just a thought.
Great color choice!

PNWM3 · 07-22-2017, 12:09 AM

Congrats! Took mine to the track for the first time yesterday, amazing! You're going to love it coming from the standard F80.

RandyC54 · 07-22-2017, 07:34 AM

I love this thread! "it's a $90k car" or "same price as a GT3" are my favorite silly comments. You are all welcome to your opinions, but you may also not know as much about which you speak. I have a lot of nice cars, and the GTS is special. At $125k new, it was a steal. Porsche made 991 of the R, and it's now a $400k car, compared to only 750 of the GTS. This car will stop sliding around $110-105k max, and then it will be $125k in 3 years. If you have not driven one in serious situations, you honestly don't have any idea what you are talking about.

robbys3m3 · 07-22-2017, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpdchicago

Congrats again. Thanks for the pics. I would not extend that lip on the road though... just a thought.
Great color choice!

Thx!
Yes I agree... it was late driving home 6 hours last night and got it home safe, but I'm going to adjust today

redrumm3 · 07-22-2017, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbys3m3

En route home... my wife driving first but so far so good.. can't wait to drive it next...f80 for sale soon

Congrats my friend! Enjoy.

robbys3m3 · 07-22-2017, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrumm3

Congrats my friend! Enjoy.

Thx! Thanks for the advice

smh_amg_m4gts · 07-24-2017, 03:18 PM

If I were an analyst, I would rate this car a HOLD.

04RC51 · 07-25-2017, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smh_amg_m4gts

If I were an analyst, I would rate this car a HOLD.

Definitely had this as an underperform when it IPO'd.

07-21-2017, 02:46 PM	#23
Miamistv Enlisted Member 38 Rep 36 Posts Drives: M6,M4,F12,991TTS,x5,m235z06,gt Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	GTS Prices A regular M3 or M4 Convertible is loaded up is over 90k. I have many cars with values from 50k to over 400k, including a 911 Turbo S currently and many P cars in the past. (overall they cannot be beat and an RS would be preferred, although one must also recognize and additional 100k in outlay) There is no way an M4GTS is a 90k car. One has to take it for what it is which is a Track car that can be driven on the street. Most people do not have more than one car and an M4GTS would be a poor choice for an everyday driver. It has a different feel than a "normal" street cars and it is an occasion to drive. It is a tremendous amount of fun and my choice for doing canyon runs. I only drive it for fun times in the car. As far as selling under sticker, I certainly did not think they would go under MSRP and am surprised. The 1M did the same thing when it came out, but I think this is much more of a car to the regular line up than the 1M was to its vintage. The Z8 was another car that at one point was under sticker. Although the beauty of the Z8 is timeless and undeniable. Anyway, I suspect the M4GTS will do well in the long run when all of the inventory is gone and more are exposed to the special qualities of this vehicle. If you have not driven one after the break in and have not whipped around nasty turns in this car, then your speculation is of little value. Those who have had significant seat time and have put the car through its paces will have no issue extolling its many positive virtues and the smile that the car put on their face.
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jpdchicago Major 1359 Rep 1,394 Posts Drives: M4 CSL, X3MC Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chicago area iTrader: (0)	Agree. I drive mine as much as I can (even to, and back from work) and it cannot be compared with a regular (competition-package or not) M3/M4. It is a visceral experience every time I drive it...sound and road feel are stunning. This, coming out of 12 years of M3s. It will always be a very special car. If you can get you hands on one, go ahead but I would not wait too long.
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robbys3m3 Lieutenant Colonel 1941 Rep 1,552 Posts Drives: M3's Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK iTrader: (1)	Thx for all the help! I'm hoping on a plane to STL and picking up a 100 mile 'Used' one in an hour...alpine white so will match the majority of our fleet (which satisfies my ocd
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jpdchicago Major 1359 Rep 1,394 Posts Drives: M4 CSL, X3MC Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chicago area iTrader: (0)	Congrats! You will love it. Pictures please when you have a chance. Took mine to M-vade Chicago last weekend and it can be seen on some of the pictures/videos. This car is just too much fun!
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Captain Unknown GT4 Captain 557 Rep 762 Posts Drives: GT4 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: EU iTrader: (0)	Just a few days ago I came back from Nurburgring, and did now drive the M4 CP. Even its a nice car It feels totaly dead compare to GTS. So I totaly understand the price point (from new)
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07-21-2017, 08:28 PM	#28
rosenbergendo First Lieutenant 119 Rep 345 Posts Drives: 2016 Porsche GT3RS, F80 M3,997 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Jupiter,FL iTrader: (0)	Drove one. Compared to my 15 GT3 (same price basically) and 16RS I thought it sucked. It is max a 90k car and will be in 6 months. And I love my DD f80 JB4 M3 FYI.
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robbys3m3 Lieutenant Colonel 1941 Rep 1,552 Posts Drives: M3's Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK iTrader: (1)	En route home... my wife driving first but so far so good.. can't wait to drive it next...f80 for sale soon Attached Images __________________ 2020 M2 CS, 2018 M3 CS, 2016 M4 GTS, 2013 M3 LRP, 2011 1M, 2011 M3 GTRS3, 2004 M3, 2002 M3, 2000 M Coupe, 2002 M5, 1997 M3, 1988 M3, 2022 STO, 2020 Urus, 2022 TRX, 2022 392, 2021 SVJ, 2018 Performante, 2013 Gallardo 550-2, 2012 Gallardo STS, 2018 R8 RWS, 2012 R8, 2017 G550 4X4^2, 2015 GT3, 2015 Continental GT3R, 1971 Bronco
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jpdchicago Major 1359 Rep 1,394 Posts Drives: M4 CSL, X3MC Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chicago area iTrader: (0)	Congrats again. Thanks for the pics. I would not extend that lip on the road though... just a thought. Great color choice!
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RandyC54 Salty Middle Aged Dog 142 Rep 165 Posts Drives: 2016 M4 GTS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Richmond, VA iTrader: (0)	I love this thread! "it's a $90k car" or "same price as a GT3" are my favorite silly comments. You are all welcome to your opinions, but you may also not know as much about which you speak. I have a lot of nice cars, and the GTS is special. At $125k new, it was a steal. Porsche made 991 of the R, and it's now a $400k car, compared to only 750 of the GTS. This car will stop sliding around $110-105k max, and then it will be $125k in 3 years. If you have not driven one in serious situations, you honestly don't have any idea what you are talking about. __________________ 2018 Porsche GT2 RS, Black 2018 Mercedes GLS63 AMG, Black, DD and TV 1997 BMW E31 840i, Black (fully restored!!)
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