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04-22-2014, 09:28 AM | #221 | |
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It's way to early to conclude that we have been misled by BMW based on one unofficial weigh-in on a pre production model. |
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What constitutes an official weigh-in (not intended to be sarcastic, just curious)? In another sub-forum here, I made a comment about potential changes to a car set to be officially revealed in October. Only the test mules (pre-production cars, obviously) have been spotted thus far. No reveal of any kind. Another forum member (an M3 owner that works in the industry) responded and informed me that the car's major design components have already been finalized, despite the fact that both the reveal and launch are still several months down the road. I would think that's the case with the F80 and F82 as well. They've both been "done" for a while now. I don't think you're going to see any last-minute substantial changes that will drastically affect the weight of either the F80/F82. Exhaust note tuning? Sure. Tweaking the electronics to work out any bugs prior to launch, finalizing the wheel colors, etc.? Probably. My point is that the pre-production car shouldn't be dismissed as a potentially inaccurate representation of the final model. BMW has been preparing for mass production of the F80/F82 for months and months. And they've been prepping the cars for launches in different markets. Changing a major design element would cost boat loads of money. Perhaps if a major safety issue came up (the type that would necessitate a recall), then a drastic change could be implemented and the launch pushed back. Now, if there were all sorts of data recording instruments on the pre-production car (which obviously won't make it to production), then that's a different story.
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IMHO it would mean a weigh-in that is witnessed and verified by more than one person at unknown scales and unknown specs... As regards the pre-production differences, we have at least seen these differences compared to the show versions: -Front strut brace in metal instead of CF -Rear sub frame in a different fit and finish So, who knows if the pre-production car being weighed had steel strut brace, steel drive shaft, solid output shafts, or even a 80l fuel tank etc? |
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Folks, the M3/4 is making this weight unless proven otherwise or BMW issues a retraction. I have the weight of the company behind me at this point. Edit to add this quote from bmwusa.com on the new M4 Quote:
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Guys it says it on BMWUSA that auto curb weight is 3595 and manual is 3540 for the M3. That is pretty much spot on with what was measured. That's still over 100 lbs less than the current M3.
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Damn! Most car batteries weigh around 45 lbs, so that's nearly half the weight. I'd jump on that for sure if I were an E9x owner.
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Didn't know they went this direction. Very nice. Battery weight is usually (but not always) behind the rear axle too, so that's a nice chunk removed from an important inertial point.
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Great point. However, is there anything special about the new car making this non-retrofitable? I though I read something about some new tech needed to accompany the battery.
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Precisely, this weighing being official, monitored, observed, validated, calibrated, whatever, not important. The car clearly does not meet BMW's claim of 80 kg lighter than a comparably equipped E90 M3, period. There is no way to massage their official numbers nor this weighing and get 80 kg.
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I'm just disappointed bc BMW had the opportunity to be revolutionary and make the M3/4 dominate again and passed . The competition has been improving by leaps and bounds in dynamics and performance , while BMW has gone to a mass market efficiency approach . |
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You may be right. You may be wrong. But you definitely don't know this yet.
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The journalist have praised recent M cars (M5, M6, M SUVs) for driving like they weight 500lbs less and being more powerful than the engine rating. If the m3/4 drive like they have half that benefit, the cars going to be amazing. And if they drive like they are 500lb lighter, they will again be the bench mark. Lets weight and see.
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