GTA: Winter Wheels Group Buy

[BMWNTHZST]

Just throwing this out there...I grabbed this from Simply Tires web site

M3 & M4 (2015+)
19” Options:
4 x 19” F30 M3 Replica
4 x 255/35/19
4 x Plastic Tire Bags
4 x Mounting, Balancing and Install

Option 1
Conti WinterContact TS830P 96V XL - $2,210.00

Option 2 package
Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 96H XL - $2,220.00

Option 3
package with Pirelli W240 Sottozero II 96V XL MO -$2,250.00

Option 4
package with Michelin Pilot PA4 96V XL - $2,270.00

Option 5
Dunlop Wintersport 3D 96V XL - $2,380.00

Option 6
Pirelli W240Sottozero II 92H RFT XL - $2,510.00

I was thinking about Option 2. Perhaps if we can get a good number of orders Allen will do even better? I know they are reps but who cares, they are for snow and salt anyway.

[2kaccordocoupe]

do they have an 18" option?

I agree the wheels are for crap weather however the winter is when you get the crap roads and the reps just are not as solid, if they are going to crack it will be under cold conditions and pot holes

for around the same cost I would much rather do an 18" brand name alloy wheel

[BMWNTHZST]

Originally Posted by 2kaccordocoupe

I agree the wheels are for crap weather however the winter is when you get the crap roads and the reps just are not as solid, if they are going to crack it will be under cold conditions and pot holes

for around the same cost I would much rather do an 18" brand name alloy wheel

Good point!

[M Pulse]

I agree, my preference would be 18" Apex wheels. Not too picky about the tire.

19" wheels to me are just overkill for the winter. Unless your car is equipped with CCB then you don't have any other choice.

18" keeps the cost of both wheels and tires down.

[M Pulse]

BMWNTHZST since you know someone at Simply Tire, would you mind asking if they can do a group buy discount for a set of Apex wheels/tires?

[BMWNTHZST]

Originally Posted by M Pulse

BMWNTHZST since you know someone at Simply Tire, would you mind asking if they can do a group buy discount for a set of Apex wheels/tires?

I will ask. Once I hear back I will post an update.

[2kaccordocoupe]

Originally Posted by BMWNTHZST

I will ask. Once I hear back I will post an update.

Thanks for taking the time to do this, much appreciated

[BMWNTHZST]

Originally Posted by 2kaccordocoupe

Thanks for taking the time to do this, much appreciated

My contact told me he will get some numbers to me tomorrow.

[///M3_F80]

Originally Posted by BMWNTHZST

Just throwing this out there...I grabbed this from Simply Tires web site

M3 & M4 (2015+)
19” Options:
4 x 19” F30 M3 Replica
4 x 255/35/19
4 x Plastic Tire Bags
4 x Mounting, Balancing and Install

Option 1
Conti WinterContact TS830P 96V XL - $2,210.00

Option 2 package
Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 96H XL - $2,220.00

Option 3
package with Pirelli W240 Sottozero II 96V XL MO -$2,250.00

Option 4
package with Michelin Pilot PA4 96V XL - $2,270.00

Option 5
Dunlop Wintersport 3D 96V XL - $2,380.00

Option 6
Pirelli W240Sottozero II 92H RFT XL - $2,510.00

I was thinking about Option 2. Perhaps if we can get a good number of orders Allen will do even better? I know they are reps but who cares, they are for snow and salt anyway.

This is essentially what I have been offered as well. I think the argument here about the rep wheels is the fact that they are weaker and could easily be damaged by pot holes etc. However, for the price point I am willing to take that risk. I have always run rep wheels for winter on my cars and they have done just fine.

It sounds to me like the Apex wheel is more expensive, as in closer to $3k for an 18" wheel and tire package. A bit steep IMO.

[BMWNTHZST]

Here's the deal...

Regular price on 18x9.5 would be in the $1,650.00 range
So I can do the $100 off a winter package (APEX only) if we install, $130 off if you guys pick them up mounted/balanced
$50 off on a set of rims alone (no tires)

255-40-18 Snows:
Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 99V XL - $1,080.00
Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 99V XL - $1,080.00
Continental TS830P 99V XL - $1,220.00
Pirelli 240 Sottozero II 99V or 95V- $1,230.00
Dunlop WinterSport 3D 95V - $1,280.00
Pirelli 240 Sottozero II RFT 95H- $1,330.00
Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 99V XL RFT - $1,410.00


This should be highly competitive, and im here to work with you guys if we can nail something down before my rush

+ taxes

In short the package would be
$1,650/ set of wheels.
Then add the tires of your choice.
In my case Blizzak will be $2,730.00 - $130.00 picked up

+ taxes

Allen would need at least 6 confirmed orders to move forward, if he had 11 he could do a little better still.

Happy Long Weekend!

[2kaccordocoupe]

decisions decisions...

[m-perfection]

This sounds good. Curious to know what others suggest as tires and why? Would love to get a bit of education here

Also, is there benefit in the run-flats during winter?

[///M3_F80]

Originally Posted by m-perfection

This sounds good. Curious to know what others suggest as tires and why? Would love to get a bit of education here

Also, is there benefit in the run-flats during winter?

Hakka 8's seems to be the popular choice and rated the "best" winter tire. Michelin PA4's get great reviews as well. I'll be going with one of these 2 for my winter set up.

[Brennan ///M4]

Originally Posted by m-perfection

This sounds good. Curious to know what others suggest as tires and why? Would love to get a bit of education here

Also, is there benefit in the run-flats during winter?

For what it's worth, I ran LM-32s last year and they performed great for the most part (considering they're a performance tire). That said, I'll be replacing them with Nokian Hakapeliitta 8s when they're wear out.

[FirstF80InSpace]

Originally Posted by ///M3_F80

Hakka 8's seems to be the popular choice and rated the "best" winter tire. Michelin PA4's get great reviews as well. I'll be going with one of these 2 for my winter set up.

Hakka 8's are studded tires. You can't drive them in Ontario unless you get them destudded. Sure you can get them destudded, but that would compromise the tire as well as cost extra money to do it.

[///M3_F80]

Originally Posted by FrozenCommunist

Hakka 8's are studded tires. You can't drive them in Ontario unless you get them destudded. Sure you can get them destudded, but that would compromise the tire as well as cost extra money to do it.

The Hakka 8's that my vendor is selling are the non-studded version, for the same reason you have mentioned - not legal in our neck of the woods. They make a non-studded version as well. Here is a pic my guys ent to me...

[FirstF80InSpace]

Originally Posted by ///M3_F80

The Hakka 8's that my vendor is selling are the non-studded version, for the same reason you have mentioned - not legal in our neck of the woods. They make a non-studded version as well. Here is a pic my guys ent to me...

Looks like the tires were destudded. I don't know what it does to the tire long term. I read that water can penetrate the holes and into the steel belt and rust from the inside.

Curious, is this dealer Kaltire?

[m-perfection]

Originally Posted by Brennan ///M4

For what it's worth, I ran LM-32s last year and they performed great for the most part (considering they're a performance tire). That said, I'll be replacing them with Nokian Hakapeliitta 8s when they're wear out.

Thanks for this - what was not so great that makes you want to switch?

[Brennan ///M4]

Originally Posted by m-perfection

Thanks for this - what was not so great that makes you want to switch?

They're certainly far better than summers or all seasons when it's cold (which may as well be ice skates), and they run great in dryer weather, but being performance focused tires they still slip around more than I'd like in the snow. I managed just fine last year, but I'd rather lose a little performance on dry roads and have that extra grip when the snow starts really dumping on us.

That said, Ottawa tends to get quite a bit more snow than Toronto does, so you guys may fare better with the more performance geared tires than we do. In the end, either will do the job as long as you're driving for the conditions and limitations of the tires.

[AP3X_FTW]

There is a APEX Winter Group Buy underway as we speak. The thread is located here

[BMWNTHZST]

Just thought I would pass this along.

Here is a less expensive alternative. It?s a replica of the BBS SR.

Earlybird discount will be $50 off the set below if order placed before Oct 14th
$80 if picked up before then
$100 if picked up, with at least 5 orders!

M3 & M4 (2015+)
18? Options:
Option 1 - $1,780.00
4 x 255-40-18 Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 99V XL
4 x 18? SR Alloy Wheels (Made for this vehicle)
4 x Plastic Tire Bags
4 x Mount, Balance and Install

Option 2 package with Bridgestone Blizzak LM001 99V XL - $1,780.00
Option 3 package with Continental TS830P 99V XL - $1,920.00
Option 4 package with Pirelli 240 Sottozero II 99V or 95V- $1,930.00
Option 5 package with Dunlop WinterSport 3D 95V - $1,980.00
Option 6 package with Pirelli 240 Sottozero II RFT 95H- $2,030.00
Option 7 package with Bridgestone Blizzak LM32 99V XL RFT - $2,110.00


- Leaving a phone number and appointment times, will help expedite booking you in.

- All tire quotes in this email include mounting, balancing, new valves, and installation.

- Prices do not yet include $4.25 per tire Ontario Tire Stewardship Fee or 13% HST.


Cheers!

[M Pulse]

As some of you may be aware there is a group buy going on right now out of the US. https://www.groupbuyparts.com/index....e-gb-2016.html

This is for Apex wheels and there is a $100 shipping cost for us Canadians. Free shipping only applies to US addresses. We will also be hit with some duty fees so I'm still certain it will be more cost effective to shop locally.

I'll ask around as well to see if we can get a group buy going through a local dealer.