BMW M3 and M4 Lease Rates (36 months)

jmg · 11-13-2017, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by InterlagosBM3

So far, the dealership is accepting my price I posted. Now it's the MF.they came up with the initial quote because I wanted to stay under $700 a month.

So unless I finance, I shouldn't put down any money on a lease? I'm going to push for the lowest MF and was going to put down 3k. This is my first time for possibly leasing...

I'm still debating on purchase/ finance vs leasing. Thanks!

There is no point in aiming for a monthly. Calculate the total spent over the course of the lease. $11k down on a lease is a bad bad bad idea. Just do what everyone else said and go zero down and put that $11k in an account to draw from every month. There is absolutely no up side to putting it down.

urinecharge · 11-13-2017, 03:03 PM

this is the deal I was just offered to order:
2018 M3 MSRP 73, 795
savings 4000
rebate 3500
cap cost 66 295
dealer/state fees 418
total 66,713

2000 down

789/month
12k/year x 3 years
residual 60%
MF 0.00152

thoughts?

I have not asked for loyalty or the M Gruppe discount yet (not sure if he already added in the loyalty)

We are also leasing an X5 in the same deal so hopeful I can get an even better price. Have not shopped around yet at all.

InterlagosBM3 · 11-13-2017, 03:11 PM

Update:

$81,125 (Tazmanite, 6spd, Exce, Comp, Full leather...)
-5k off sticker msrp
-$2,000 holiday incentive
-$1500 loyalty BMW (previous e92 M owner)

= $72,625 + tax

Final Quote

36 Months
10k/Year
MF .00152
$2,798.62 Down (Drive-Off)
$912/Month w/Tax

Residual $49,559

Green light? I'm going to decide on this or just do a purchase/finance most likely tonight/tomorrow. Whatcha guys think? Thanks!

MadZarBMR · 11-13-2017, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InterlagosBM3

Update:

$81,125 (Tazmanite, 6spd, Exce, Comp, Full leather...)
-5k off sticker msrp
-$2,000 holiday incentive
-$1500 loyalty BMW (previous e92 M owner)

= $72,625 + tax

Final Quote

36 Months
10k/Year
MF .00152
$2,798.62 Down (Drive-Off)
$912/Month w/Tax

Residual $49,559

Green light? I'm going to decide on this or just do a purchase/finance most likely tonight/tomorrow. Whatcha guys think? Thanks!

Are dealers in the Bay Area really being this aggressive on price now? Back in 2015 when I ordered my 2016, I had to go to SoCal because not a single dealer in the area would go below MSRP. Some wanted a 5-10k markup. How times have changed.

Anyhow, to me, this looks like a solid deal, but I have been out of the market for almost two years now, but deals like this make me wonder if I shouldn't trade-up before F80 goes EOP. Mind sharing what dealer you are working with?

doug_999 · 11-13-2017, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by InterlagosBM3

Green light? I'm going to decide on this or just do a purchase/finance most likely tonight/tomorrow. Whatcha guys think? Thanks!

Do it, or I'm driving out there and taking that car. Sounds stunning - send pics!

InterlagosBM3 · 11-14-2017, 10:24 AM

Thanks guys! Picking her up tonight after work

VDMTom · 11-16-2017, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

Are dealers in the Bay Area really being this aggressive on price now? Back in 2015 when I ordered my 2016, I had to go to SoCal because not a single dealer in the area would go below MSRP. Some wanted a 5-10k markup. How times have changed.

Anyhow, to me, this looks like a solid deal, but I have been out of the market for almost two years now, but deals like this make me wonder if I shouldn't trade-up before F80 goes EOP. Mind sharing what dealer you are working with?

No mark up anymore, but not too many selling at invoice yet on 2018. I would say some are doing invoice + $500 to $1000 currently..

I purchase my car this week from Southern California..

nickl630 · 11-19-2017, 12:19 AM

Need some input gents

Somewhat new at leasing so forgive me if I dont have all the details. (I Dont have MF)

2018 M3
AW/Black
Basic, just DCT and 19's

Price: 71,545.00
Discount: 2000 (I think they can do better here)
Rebate: 4000
Adj Price: 65,545.00
Doc fee: 80
Tax: 563.00
Non Tax: 430.00
Balance: 66.618.80

10k miles/year

5k down: 812/m
7.5k down: 735/m
10k down: 659/m

Southern California. Similar story to others who have said "these cars sell themselves, dont need to negotiate much"

What am I missing here? I'd like to be in the 600 range with 5k or so down.

MadZarBMR · 11-19-2017, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickl630

Need some input gents

Somewhat new at leasing so forgive me if I dont have all the details. (I Dont have MF)

2018 M3
AW/Black
Basic, just DCT and 19's

Price: 71,545.00
Discount: 2000 (I think they can do better here)
Rebate: 4000
Adj Price: 65,545.00
Doc fee: 80
Tax: 563.00
Non Tax: 430.00
Balance: 66.618.80

10k miles/year

5k down: 812/m
7.5k down: 735/m
10k down: 659/m

Southern California. Similar story to others who have said "these cars sell themselves, dont need to negotiate much"

What am I missing here? I'd like to be in the 600 range with 5k or so down.

Need MF since that is where most dealers will try to make their profit. Also post config so we know if your price includes any port installed options which can impact invoice price.

Finally and most important. Never put money down on a lease. Just pay necessary drive off costs. If you wreck your car you don't get your extra down back. Save the cash and use it to make your payments.

nickl630 · 11-19-2017, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

Need MF since that is where most dealers will try to make their profit. Also post config so we know if your price includes any port installed options which can impact invoice price.

Finally and most important. Never put money down on a lease. Just pay necessary drive off costs. If you wreck your car you don't get your extra down back. Save the cash and use it to make your payments.

Yup they didnt disclose that, if my math is correct using leasehackr it appears my MF would be right around .00220 which is hilarious based on my credit (815ish)

No port installed options, literally just 19's, DCT and black extended leather.

MadZarBMR · 11-19-2017, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickl630

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

Need MF since that is where most dealers will try to make their profit. Also post config so we know if your price includes any port installed options which can impact invoice price.

Finally and most important. Never put money down on a lease. Just pay necessary drive off costs. If you wreck your car you don't get your extra down back. Save the cash and use it to make your payments.

Yup they didnt disclose that, if my math is correct using leasehackr it appears my MF would be right around .00220 which is hilarious based on my credit (815ish)

No port installed options, literally just 19's, DCT and black extended leather.

That MF is insane! Looks like you are in Socal so you should be able to get pretty close to invoice price before rebates/incentives. For reference, I was able to get 2500 over invoice on my 2016 when the cars were hard to get and being marked up by 5-10k. In today's market getting 3k+ below invoice with all incentives should be very doable. Just keep pressing them or move on to another dealer that isn't playing games. GL

nickl630 · 11-19-2017, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

That MF is insane! Looks like you are in Socal so you should be able to get pretty close to invoice price before rebates/incentives. For reference, I was able to get 2500 over invoice on my 2016 when the cars were hard to get and being marked up by 5-10k. In today's market getting 3k+ below invoice with all incentives should be very doable. Just keep pressing them or move on to another dealer that isn't playing games. GL

Yup, MF was .00192. They wont budge on that... said "they are all in" at this price lol. Oh well ill try some other dealers.

dim635csi · 11-19-2017, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nickl630

Yup, MF was .00192. They wont budge on that... said "they are all in" at this price lol. Oh well ill try some other dealers.

Try Santa Maria BMW - 0.00152 MF, no issues.

Nikolas · 11-19-2017, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nickl630

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadZarBMR

That MF is insane! Looks like you are in Socal so you should be able to get pretty close to invoice price before rebates/incentives. For reference, I was able to get 2500 over invoice on my 2016 when the cars were hard to get and being marked up by 5-10k. In today's market getting 3k+ below invoice with all incentives should be very doable. Just keep pressing them or move on to another dealer that isn't playing games. GL

Yup, MF was .00192. They wont budge on that... said "they are all in" at this price lol. Oh well ill try some other dealers.

I think they had it closer to your first guess.

BMV///M3 · 11-28-2017, 09:51 AM

These .MF increases are surprising. If you have strong credit I wouldn't accept anything but base MF. Plenty of dealers out there, it would be a non negotiable for me. Stick to your guns.

PS if you're in Cali PM me and I can send you my CA who helped me with my 2016

casperM4 · 12-06-2017, 05:03 PM

Guys, do you think there'll be better deal around June 2018 compared to right now? My F30 lease ends on September but I'm thinking to get rid of it now and get the M4

doug_999 · 12-06-2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by herious89

Guys, do you think there'll be better deal around June 2018 compared to right now? My F30 lease ends on September but I'm thinking to get rid of it now and get the M4

Crystal ball be broken....
Lots of factors - economy, etc...

However, in terms of leasing, SPRING (in the USA) tends to have the best residuals.

Then again, the M4 is not really a winter car and some dealers are getting stuck with quite a few... so that "December 30th, let's make a deal" might just be magical (ok, normally BMW counts sales up till something like Jan 4, but I'm telling you, bet you can make a nice deal on Dec 30th...)

Still Spring...

but wait, no, Feb.

casperM4 · 12-06-2017, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug_999

Crystal ball be broken....
Lots of factors - economy, etc...

However, in terms of leasing, SPRING (in the USA) tends to have the best residuals.

Then again, the M4 is not really a winter car and some dealers are getting stuck with quite a few... so that "December 30th, let's make a deal" might just be magical (ok, normally BMW counts sales up till something like Jan 4, but I'm telling you, bet you can make a nice deal on Dec 30th...)

Still Spring...

but wait, no, Feb.

Thanks for the heads-up, but I live in South Cal and there is no winter here, not sure if what you said applies over here

doug_999 · 12-06-2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by herious89

Thanks for the heads-up, but I live in South Cal and there is no winter here, not sure if what you said applies over here

That's what you are missing....
Cause there are lots of cars in cold weather climates looking for homes...for instance, my dealer in St. Louis would LOVE to get rid of a couple of his M4s....

Think outside the box

PS - Brett Midgley, Autohaus BMW

firedown31 · 12-07-2017, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herious89

Guys, do you think there'll be better deal around June 2018 compared to right now? My F30 lease ends on September but I'm thinking to get rid of it now and get the M4

MF will probably be higher, residuals should be higher as well, but I doubt you'll see $5000 in available incentives, maybe $1-2k

ImGoingPlaces · 12-11-2017, 11:01 PM

based on what im seeing here i take it my payment of $945 per month with 10k per year on a 95k MSRP is pretty good....which i knew but now is confirmed.

i did a lease takeover , which is how i acquire all my cars. all i did was compare MSRP to payment

lots of guys in the 75k-80k msrp paying 900 a month. i think i made out well

Budnr22 · 12-11-2017, 11:59 PM

I am about to text my CA and say yes. Any thoughts on this deal?

2018 M3
Alpine white
Comp package
Exec package
Sakir extended
Car play
DCT

MSRP. 78,545
Price. 73,835 (pretty close to invoice)
Incentive -500 ( fleet)
Incentive. -3000 (holiday)
T,T,PF. 3669 (VA pays tax on full cost of car)

Amount financed. 74,004

Lease, 36 months, 12k miles, .00152

First payment only at signing

11-13-2017, 03:03 PM	#2708
urinecharge New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2001 e39 M5 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Eugene, Oregon iTrader: (0)	this is the deal I was just offered to order: 2018 M3 MSRP 73, 795 savings 4000 rebate 3500 cap cost 66 295 dealer/state fees 418 total 66,713 2000 down 789/month 12k/year x 3 years residual 60% MF 0.00152 thoughts? I have not asked for loyalty or the M Gruppe discount yet (not sure if he already added in the loyalty) We are also leasing an X5 in the same deal so hopeful I can get an even better price. Have not shopped around yet at all.
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11-13-2017, 03:11 PM	#2709
InterlagosBM3 New Member 2 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Coupe E92 IB 6MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Update: $81,125 (Tazmanite, 6spd, Exce, Comp, Full leather...) -5k off sticker msrp -$2,000 holiday incentive -$1500 loyalty BMW (previous e92 M owner) = $72,625 + tax Final Quote 36 Months 10k/Year MF .00152 $2,798.62 Down (Drive-Off) $912/Month w/Tax Residual $49,559 Green light? I'm going to decide on this or just do a purchase/finance most likely tonight/tomorrow. Whatcha guys think? Thanks!
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11-14-2017, 10:24 AM	#2712
InterlagosBM3 New Member 2 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Coupe E92 IB 6MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys! Picking her up tonight after work __________________ SOLD 2009 E92 Interlagos Blue M3, 6pd, LCI, 19", Premium Package 2014 Scion FRS Monogram Series (Toyota 86) 2018 F80 M3, Tazmanite Blue, 6spd w/ Comp/Exec/Tech
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11-19-2017, 12:19 AM	#2714
nickl630 Captain 500 Rep 712 Posts Drives: 18 M3CS, 09 GTR Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (1)	Need some input gents Somewhat new at leasing so forgive me if I dont have all the details. (I Dont have MF) 2018 M3 AW/Black Basic, just DCT and 19's Price: 71,545.00 Discount: 2000 (I think they can do better here) Rebate: 4000 Adj Price: 65,545.00 Doc fee: 80 Tax: 563.00 Non Tax: 430.00 Balance: 66.618.80 10k miles/year 5k down: 812/m 7.5k down: 735/m 10k down: 659/m Southern California. Similar story to others who have said "these cars sell themselves, dont need to negotiate much" What am I missing here? I'd like to be in the 600 range with 5k or so down.
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11-28-2017, 09:51 AM	#2721
BMV///M3 Major 419 Rep 1,068 Posts Drives: BMW f80 M3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	These .MF increases are surprising. If you have strong credit I wouldn't accept anything but base MF. Plenty of dealers out there, it would be a non negotiable for me. Stick to your guns. PS if you're in Cali PM me and I can send you my CA who helped me with my 2016
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casperM4 Private First Class 55 Rep 138 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Guys, do you think there'll be better deal around June 2018 compared to right now? My F30 lease ends on September but I'm thinking to get rid of it now and get the M4
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ImGoingPlaces First Lieutenant 185 Rep 379 Posts Drives: AMG GTS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	based on what im seeing here i take it my payment of $945 per month with 10k per year on a 95k MSRP is pretty good....which i knew but now is confirmed. i did a lease takeover , which is how i acquire all my cars. all i did was compare MSRP to payment lots of guys in the 75k-80k msrp paying 900 a month. i think i made out well
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12-11-2017, 11:59 PM	#2728
Budnr22 New Member 8 Rep 11 Posts Drives: GT530 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Nova iTrader: (0)	I am about to text my CA and say yes. Any thoughts on this deal? 2018 M3 Alpine white Comp package Exec package Sakir extended Car play DCT MSRP. 78,545 Price. 73,835 (pretty close to invoice) Incentive -500 ( fleet) Incentive. -3000 (holiday) T,T,PF. 3669 (VA pays tax on full cost of car) Amount financed. 74,004 Lease, 36 months, 12k miles, .00152 First payment only at signing
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