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      03-09-2017, 09:42 PM   #1
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$2500 Discount Morgan Stanley Reserved

I used the "Morgan Stanley Reserved Program" for an additional $2500 discount on my M4. Dealer never heard of the program and advised I was the first to use it. Very simple to obtain if you have an account. And yes, the $2500 off was on top of the deal I already negotiated. And, NO, you don't have to be a BMW employee to get it. Just follow the instructions.

Offer Details:

$2,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of a BMW 2, 3, 4, 5, i8, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and Z4 (includes M models)
$3,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of the 6 and 7 series (includes M models)
$5,000 off the purchase or $1,500 of the lease of a BMW *i3 BEV, i3 REX
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I used the "Morgan Stanley Reserved Program" for an additional $2500 discount on my M4. Dealer never heard of the program and advised I was the first to use it. Very simple to obtain if you have an account. And yes, the $2500 off was on top of the deal I already negotiated. And, NO, you don't have to be a BMW employee to get it. Just follow the instructions.

Offer Details:

$2,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of a BMW 2, 3, 4, 5, i8, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and Z4 (includes M models)
$3,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of the 6 and 7 series (includes M models)
$5,000 off the purchase or $1,500 of the lease of a BMW *i3 BEV, i3 REX
Would you have a link or something?

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Found the link, unfortunately I don't use Morgan Stanley.
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For those of you stressing that you are missing out on something, the pricing of the discount looks EXACTLY like a corporate discount, so if you have access to that, I would almost guarantee you are not missing anything.

This would be similar to the AARP discount people are talking about.

Seems that BMW is expanding the corporate discount to certain organizations that people are members of.
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I used the "Morgan Stanley Reserved Program" for an additional $2500 discount on my M4. Dealer never heard of the program and advised I was the first to use it. Very simple to obtain if you have an account. And yes, the $2500 off was on top of the deal I already negotiated. And, NO, you don't have to be a BMW employee to get it. Just follow the instructions.

Offer Details:

$2,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of a BMW 2, 3, 4, 5, i8, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and Z4 (includes M models)
$3,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of the 6 and 7 series (includes M models)
$5,000 off the purchase or $1,500 of the lease of a BMW *i3 BEV, i3 REX
The above are the standard "employee discount" terms that virtually every S&P500 company and numerous non-profits get from BMW these days.

BMW has shifted its discounting strategy from free-for all "credits" listing on its website, to more aggressive semi-private discounting via employees and non-profits. I don't know why, but read further on how to benefit.

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Found the link, unfortunately I don't use Morgan Stanley.
You don't need to be with 'morgan to take advantage of the above discount.
One alternative is to join USA Swimming ($55/year?), and collect the discount through them:

https://www.usaswimming.org/DesktopD...&wpublish18350

Offer Details:
• $5,000 off the purchase of a BMW *i3 BEV, i3 REX, and $1,500 off leases
• $3,500 off the purchase of a BMW 6 and 7 series (includes M models), and $1,500 off leases
• $2,500 off the purchase of a BMW 2, 3, 4, 5, i8, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and Z4 (includes M models), and $1,500 off leases
• $1,000 off the purchase of all MINI models and $500 off leases


While you are at it, join BMW CCA (you should do it even if you don't need or can't collect on a discount), and collect post-sale rebate:
https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

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The above are the standard "employee discount" terms that virtually every S&P500 company and numerous non-profits get from BMW these days.

BMW has shifted its discounting strategy from free-for all "credits" listing on its website, to more aggressive semi-private discounting via employees and non-profits. I don't know why, but read further on how to benefit.



You don't need to be with 'morgan to take advantage of the above discount.
One alternative is to join USA Swimming ($55/year?), and collect the discount through them:

https://www.usaswimming.org/DesktopD...&wpublish18350

Offer Details:
• $5,000 off the purchase of a BMW *i3 BEV, i3 REX, and $1,500 off leases
• $3,500 off the purchase of a BMW 6 and 7 series (includes M models), and $1,500 off leases
• $2,500 off the purchase of a BMW 2, 3, 4, 5, i8, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and Z4 (includes M models), and $1,500 off leases
• $1,000 off the purchase of all MINI models and $500 off leases


While you are at it, join BMW CCA (you should do it even if you don't need or can't collect on a discount), and collect post-sale rebate:
https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

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Unfortunately they wont be able to collect the BMW CCA rebate if they sign up for an receive one of the corporate discount type clones. I downloaded the actual PDF from BMW CCA (I am also a member), to take a look as this came up on the "other" bmw forum.

The verbiage on the CCA PDF submittal form clearly states that it does not combine with corporate discount incentives, and I agree with your post that this is basically the corporate discount.

Im attaching it here for people to read through if they want.

Great tip on the USA swimming though! That basically means anyone can get it (and you dont have to sign up for AARP if thats a psycological hurdle lol)

BMW CCA rebate form.pdf
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FYI, any of these "fleet" discounts cannot be combined with the BMW CCA membership discounts (look at the BMW CCA form where it expressly states this).

If you don't have to fill out a fleet rebate form to get the discount (trying to get to my Morgan Stanley program details as I type this) you might be able to combine the BMWCCA discount with one of these.

I've used my wife's Johnson and Johnson Fleet discount a few times now. They give you an additional .00002 off the money factor (on top of the pricing discounts) on any lease too.

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This is a first I'm hearing about these discounts. Where have I been?!?

Do you have a to be a member a certain number months before taking advantage of these corporate discounts, for example with USASwimming? I've been a longtime CCA member and know about their 12 month stipulation.

Can these corporate discounts be combined with USAA or are they one and the same?
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FYI, any of these "fleet" discounts cannot be combined with the BMW CCA membership discounts (look at the BMW CCA form where it expressly states this).
Where do you guys get this info?
Note, BMW CCA membership "rebate" is not a "discount", nor should it come up during price negotiation, or show up on the Bill of Sale.

You apply for BMW CCA "rebate" after you take possession of the car, and get a check back from BMW NA a few months later.

Here is the list of "Exclusions" for BMW CCA rebate.
https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

BMW CCA Rebate Exclusions
  • Please note: this offer cannot be combined with the USAA Rebate Program being offered by BMW.
  • Vehicles discounted with an Executive Allowance cannot be combined with the BMW CCA rebate program.
  • Please read the terms and conditions in the application for the full list of exclusions.

Nothing here says anything about "Corporate sales program" discounts, or USA swimming's "Member Purchase Program" discount.

You may very well be right, I just don't see any grounds for interpreting it that way based on the data shared in this thread.

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need to ask my Charles Schwab, if similar discount apply :-)

Oh never mind, ED is excluded, too bad.
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Where do you guys get this info?
Note, BMW CCA membership "rebate" is not a "discount", nor should it come up during price negotiation, or show up on the Bill of Sale.

You apply for BMW CCA "rebate" after you take possession of the car, and get a check back from BMW NA a few months later.

Here is the list of "Exclusions" for BMW CCA rebate.
https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

BMW CCA Rebate Exclusions
  • Please note: this offer cannot be combined with the USAA Rebate Program being offered by BMW.
  • Vehicles discounted with an Executive Allowance cannot be combined with the BMW CCA rebate program.
  • Please read the terms and conditions in the application for the full list of exclusions.

Nothing here says anything about "Corporate sales program" discounts, or USA swimming's "Member Purchase Program" discount.

You may very well be right, I just don't see any grounds for interpreting it that way based on the data shared in this thread.

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The corporate fleet brochure disclaimer says:

Ineligible BMWs:

"BMW Company Vehicles, Extended Test Drive, Shuttle/Limo, Retired Service Loaner Vehicles and Pre-Owned vehicles are not eligible. The Corporate Sales Incentive cannot be used in conjunction with the BMW Ultimate Drive Event, BMW Car Club of America (CCA) Program, BMW College Program, BMW Group Partner & Family Program, European Delivery and Embassy Program, Diplomatic Program, Domestic Military Sales Program (USAA), BMW Limousine & Hotel Shuttle Program, BMW VIP Purchase Program and previously reported vehicles with more than 300 miles."

I bolded the 2 programs I care about.
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Where do you guys get this info?
Note, BMW CCA membership "rebate" is not a "discount", nor should it come up during price negotiation, or show up on the Bill of Sale.

You apply for BMW CCA "rebate" after you take possession of the car, and get a check back from BMW NA a few months later.

Here is the list of "Exclusions" for BMW CCA rebate.
https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

BMW CCA Rebate Exclusions
  • Please note: this offer cannot be combined with the USAA Rebate Program being offered by BMW.
  • Vehicles discounted with an Executive Allowance cannot be combined with the BMW CCA rebate program.
  • Please read the terms and conditions in the application for the full list of exclusions.

Nothing here says anything about "Corporate sales program" discounts, or USA swimming's "Member Purchase Program" discount.

You may very well be right, I just don't see any grounds for interpreting it that way based on the data shared in this thread.

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The link you just provided clearly states: "Vehicles discounted with an Executive Allowance cannot be combined with the BMW CCA rebate program."

The "Fleet Discount" programs are considered "Executive Allowances." Or for more proof, see the link provided by Space Gray. You need to see an actual copy of the special form for each of these programs to see the full list of disclosures/exclusions.

Also, many of us have actually done these programs before (I've done it 3 times now) so we're well familiar with the terms.

Another point, depending upon the level of the fleet discount (there are a few different levels), you may or may not be able to stack additional discounts on them. Example, a Level 2/class G fleet discount lets you stack other BMW promotions on top of the Fleet discount. Other levels/classes may not.

I always try to time my orders/purchases for when I have a Team USA ($1000) or other credit and a loyalty rebate or other Factory cash rebate award (like loyalty/options credit). In the end, I typically will get my cars for $2500-$3500 under invoice that way. Plus I get a small MF reduction (.00002) with my fleet program (on top of the $$$ discount) if I choose to lease.
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The link you just provided clearly states: "Vehicles discounted with an Executive Allowance cannot be combined with the BMW CCA rebate program."

The "Fleet Discount" programs are considered "Executive Allowances." Or for more proof, see the link provided by Space Gray. You need to see an actual copy of the special form for each of these programs to see the full list of disclosures/exclusions.

Also, many of us have actually done these programs before (I've done it 3 times now) so we're well familiar with the terms.

Another point, depending upon the level of the fleet discount (there are a few different levels), you may or may not be able to stack additional discounts on them. Example, a Level 2/class G fleet discount lets you stack other BMW promotions on top of the Fleet discount. Other levels/classes may not.

I always try to time my orders/purchases for when I have a Team USA ($1000) or other credit and a loyalty rebate or other Factory cash rebate award (like loyalty/options credit). In the end, I typically will get my cars for $2500-$3500 under invoice that way. Plus I get a small MF reduction (.00002) with my fleet program (on top of the $$$ discount) if I choose to lease.
Where can we find a list of all these "Member Purchase Programs" and/or "Corporate Sales Programs?" Always when I heard the term "corporate discount," I thought one had to work for the company. Hell, I'd join the USA Swimming for $55 in order to get $2500-$1500 more off--I asked earlier, but do you need to be a member for a certain number of months before taking advantage of the discount?
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I want to know if anyone had success combining USAA and USA swim. That would be 4500 off. Sounds too good to be true.
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I want to know if anyone had success combining USAA and USA swim. That would be 4500 off. Sounds too good to be true.
USAA is most likely considered a fleet discount (anyone have the actual application form handy?) and you can't combine 2 different fleet discount packages. One or the other. You should be able to stack a loyalty discount or the recent Winter XDrive promo ($1000) though.
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I want to know if anyone had success combining USAA and USA swim. That would be 4500 off. Sounds too good to be true.
This Morgan Stanley is one of the FLEET discounts, just like USAA insurance, AARP member or corporate fleet discount. Can't keep stacking them up cause it's the same one just different way to enter. But sure we all can wish.

50-yr old ARRP, Vet USAA member with Morgan stanley account sure wisfully think can get $7500 discount, but keep on dreaming
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I used the "Morgan Stanley Reserved Program" for an additional $2500 discount on my M4. Dealer never heard of the program and advised I was the first to use it. Very simple to obtain if you have an account. And yes, the $2500 off was on top of the deal I already negotiated. And, NO, you don't have to be a BMW employee to get it. Just follow the instructions.

Offer Details:

$2,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of a BMW 2, 3, 4, 5, i8, X1, X3, X4, X5, X6 and Z4 (includes M models)
$3,500 off the purchase or $1,500 off the lease of the 6 and 7 series (includes M models)
$5,000 off the purchase or $1,500 of the lease of a BMW *i3 BEV, i3 REX
Just to be clear, this post was FYI for those that didn't know about it. Sure, you have to be a "Morgan Stanley Reserve Member" which is free if you have an account. For me it wasn't a corporate discount, Ive never worked for Morgan Stanley or BMW.
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Ok. I didn't know if USAA was considered a Fleet discount. Thanks
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I used USAA, which is available to anybody that falls into the following categories: Active, retired and honorably separated officers and enlisted personnel of the U.S. military. Officer candidates in commissioning programs (Academy, ROTC, OCS/OTS). Adult children whose eligible parents have or had a USAA auto or property insurance product.

Additionally, I was not able to utilize my Morgan Stanly benefits, however, I was able to take advantage of the $1000 BMW credit at time I paid for my car. Was $3500 total in savings on my M.
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Where do you guys get this info?
Note, BMW CCA membership "rebate" is not a "discount", nor should it come up during price negotiation, or show up on the Bill of Sale.

You apply for BMW CCA "rebate" after you take possession of the car, and get a check back from BMW NA a few months later.

Here is the list of "Exclusions" for BMW CCA rebate.
https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

BMW CCA Rebate Exclusions
  • Please note: this offer cannot be combined with the USAA Rebate Program being offered by BMW.
  • Vehicles discounted with an Executive Allowance cannot be combined with the BMW CCA rebate program.
  • Please read the terms and conditions in the application for the full list of exclusions.

Nothing here says anything about "Corporate sales program" discounts, or USA swimming's "Member Purchase Program" discount.

You may very well be right, I just don't see any grounds for interpreting it that way based on the data shared in this thread.

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On the PDF I linked, which is the actual submittal form for the BMW CCA rebate (which as you said does not come from the dealership nor come up in negotiations), it specifically states (copied word for word):
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This program is not available in conjunction with other special purchase
programs offered by BMW NA or BMW centers. (including but not limited to
the USAA and Corporate Fleet programs)
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The corporate fleet program also says the same thing. All of the stipulations for the BMW CCA rebate are on the form I linked (certain mileage on vehicle, etc).

What I did not know , was that USA Swimming counts as one of those discounts as well. I agree with your whole premise of BMW moving the discounts from option credits, to "corporate" discount to members of all these organizations, making people hunt them down a bit more.

(I actually get corporate discount from my job, and am a BMW CCA member, so looked extensively into getting the rebate on it, and was told "no" by BMW CCA , which is why I was so sure of it, lol).
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Where can we find a list of all these "Member Purchase Programs" and/or "Corporate Sales Programs?" Always when I heard the term "corporate discount," I thought one had to work for the company. Hell, I'd join the USA Swimming for $55 in order to get $2500-$1500 more off--I asked earlier, but do you need to be a member for a certain number of months before taking advantage of the discount?
It looks like AARP is the cheapest of the "joinable" programs that result in the fleet discounting. Under $20 for the first year.
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It looks like AARP is the cheapest of the "joinable" programs that result in the fleet discounting. Under $20 for the first year.
Thanks...Questions about AARP can be answered over on that "other forum"
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