Introducing the First Ever BMW M4 CS!

e92_m3 · 04-19-2017, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatte

100K USD for this car I don't believe is worth it especially considering all the equipment that is optional on it and the one f***ing option that most people want or care about (Manual Transmission) isn't even available.

Also, a lot of the parts that seem to add to the price seem to be cosmetic stuff like the OLED lights. If they had invested on just performance, 100K USD would've been justifiable.

^^This!^^

Tbh, it just looks an an M4 with a new lip, spoiler, and wheels. I was hoping for the rear fenders to be wider, some front end refresh, with majority of the work done with the motor (490 HP would be nice).

I'm pretty sure this car will be selling over $100K in the USA. Don't forget about dealership MARKUPS...

Digital.James · 04-19-2017, 05:04 AM

Great looking car but at that price point ($120k) why you would buy this over say, a 991.2 GTS or a C4S...

marcusfva · 04-19-2017, 05:24 AM

M4 CS in Italy is 133.900 Euro MRSP, 46k euro more than an M4 ZCP.

AUSf22 · 04-19-2017, 05:42 AM

I'm surprised they aren't equipped with the BMW/kW coilovers at that price point ... suspension looks way too high but everything is nice (front lip and rear tails)

IB M · 04-19-2017, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KillrM3

So track car and family of 4 hauler???

Car looks good.

Nomana · 04-19-2017, 05:58 AM

There is no hood stop at the end of engine bay?
I think GTS has one

Nomana · 04-19-2017, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IB M

So track car and family of 4 hauler???

Car looks good.

That's Top Gear challenge lol

IB M · 04-19-2017, 06:02 AM

So what will CS with CCBs, individual red paint, Exec Pack and all the nice other options cost? I'm guessing about $105k USD.

stormlv · 04-19-2017, 06:03 AM

Might be a stupid question, but why is the spoiler not aligned with the trailing edge of the trunk?

To me, it just looks off...

loveskiing · 04-19-2017, 06:09 AM

So I'll start off this reply with apologizing for not having read through all 8 pages in this thread...
I read the first 4 and they seem to be repetitive so...
Maybe I'm just a contrarian but you know BMW is so full of shyt I can't stand it. If I see another f'ing car that comes out and talks about how exclusive it is to try to sucker me in, sorry not interested. What the heck is wrong with these clowns? Ford, Chevy, Dodge and many other car company's have surpassed BMW and all they can do is just keep turning out the same BS with a few modifications, some new paint, maybe some carbon fiber brakes, little more HP, and some bits here and there...then think that they can sucker us in?
Sorry Mate, e9x M3 was the shyt and just about everything else after that as far as I'm concerned has just gone downhill fast.
Maybe others will pay thru the nose for these retreads but count me out...

IB M · 04-19-2017, 06:39 AM

Here is my CS edition 2013 M3 with 6speed, cloth seats and V8. Paid just $60k new 4 years ago.

Teaching my kid to drive the manual tranny. All smiles and no stalls.

Eau_Rouge111 · 04-19-2017, 06:39 AM

BMW could have just offered these upgrades as M performance upgrades at their dealerships instead of coming out with another gimmic to buy an M4. I'm sure there are lots of M4 owners who buy the individual upgrades for their cars and BMW would make lots of $ at it

edwinm3 · 04-19-2017, 06:45 AM

Maybe I missed it but no manual transmission?

Eau_Rouge111 · 04-19-2017, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by edwinm3

Maybe I missed it but no manual transmission?

Only DCT on the M4 CS

TunedM2C · 04-19-2017, 06:47 AM

The price is wrong Bob.

michal12 · 04-19-2017, 07:07 AM

The pricing is rather steep. But depends how we look at the future depreciation. E93 GTS and CRT model held their prices pretty well so original MSRP didnt matter that much.
With this CS, it is hard to tell as it is not a limited run per se.

michal12 · 04-19-2017, 07:10 AM

Lets hope it not a new trend: make the base model deliberately underwhelming and than charge top $$ for limited run editions which are only as good as the original base model should have been since the beginning.

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Originally Posted by loveskiing

So I'll start off this reply with apologizing for not having read through all 8 pages in this thread...
I read the first 4 and they seem to be repetitive so...
Maybe I'm just a contrarian but you know BMW is so full of shyt I can't stand it. If I see another f'ing car that comes out and talks about how exclusive it is to try to sucker me in, sorry not interested. What the heck is wrong with these clowns? Ford, Chevy, Dodge and many other car company's have surpassed BMW and all they can do is just keep turning out the same BS with a few modifications, some new paint, maybe some carbon fiber brakes, little more HP, and some bits here and there...then think that they can sucker us in?
Sorry Mate, e9x M3 was the shyt and just about everything else after that as far as I'm concerned has just gone downhill fast.
Maybe others will pay thru the nose for these retreads but count me out...

IB M · 04-19-2017, 07:24 AM

Price is steep but I love the CS overall. BMW did a good job on this package.

At the end of the day it's nice to have choices; stripper M4, M4, ZCP, CS, GTS, Individual. Pick the car that fits your taste and budget. Hard to complain about having so many options to choose from and price range from $65k up to $135k.

My only real complaint is not having this option package on an M3. Call it the Sedan Sport or SS.

Mantii · 04-19-2017, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by michal12

Lets hope it not a new trend: make the base model deliberately underwhelming and than charge top $$ for limited run editions which are only as good as the original base model should have been since the beginning.

I think you you are on to something here, and I really hope it is not the case. Haven't we seen this in the gaming industry? First they took away all the big boxes and thick manuals from the shelves, then put DRM into the software, then came half assed, incomplete games that original cost $40, now cost on average $100 since you have to pre-order to get the next 3 DLCs that you know nothing about, but need to pay to get the complete experience. WTF!?

mpizutti · 04-19-2017, 07:31 AM

They should have made the GTS 550hp..and this car 500hp

Délid'f · 04-19-2017, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by taitam

As a driver of an M4 ZCP in SMB I'm very happy with their choice of colour. The fact it's now exclusive to the M4 CS was a great idea! I think I prefer my SS interior!

Now if only I can change those rear lights......

No ZCP here but Civic San Marino M4 for already more than 2 years !
Couldn't agree more, very happy with the nice full leather interior and only missing the gorgeous rear lights.

Very curious as to whether it will still be possible to order SMB with BMW Individual. "exclusive to M4 CS" may simply indicate that this colour is not available for regular M4 as a part of the metallic paint options.

mkoesel · 04-19-2017, 07:34 AM

With production starting in July 2017 (as had been rumored for some time), and going for two years, that actually means that it will end about a year before the last F82 M4 rolls off the line in June 2020. This is probably what they mean by "limited edition". Of course, there will still be a limited number produced over those two years, but I suspect we are talking about thousands per year, nothing like the ~800 units of the GTS available world wide.

I notice the press release does not include the deck lid among the panels that are made from CFRP. I wonder - does this mean that the M4 CS actually has the 4 Series deck lid and not the one used on the standard M4 (which is CFRP)? Or is it simply an erroneous omission from the press release? Edit: Technically, I guess the M4 deck lid is C-SMC, so I suppose that's why it was not named in the list with the others which are true CFRP.

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Digital.James Colonel 119 Rep 2,703 Posts Drives: GT4, Raptor.2, Tuono 1100F Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NC iTrader: (7)	Great looking car but at that price point ($120k) why you would buy this over say, a 991.2 GTS or a C4S...
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marcusfva Private 70 Rep 95 Posts Drives: M2'17 DCT Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Milano, Italy iTrader: (0)	M4 CS in Italy is 133.900 Euro MRSP, 46k euro more than an M4 ZCP.
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IB M Brigadier General 2778 Rep 4,249 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 MG/SO ZCP DCT Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (1) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 [8.50] 2013 BMW M3 [10.00]	So what will CS with CCBs, individual red paint, Exec Pack and all the nice other options cost? I'm guessing about $105k USD.
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loveskiing Lieutenant Colonel 968 Rep 1,612 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 E90 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	So I'll start off this reply with apologizing for not having read through all 8 pages in this thread... I read the first 4 and they seem to be repetitive so... Maybe I'm just a contrarian but you know BMW is so full of shyt I can't stand it. If I see another f'ing car that comes out and talks about how exclusive it is to try to sucker me in, sorry not interested. What the heck is wrong with these clowns? Ford, Chevy, Dodge and many other car company's have surpassed BMW and all they can do is just keep turning out the same BS with a few modifications, some new paint, maybe some carbon fiber brakes, little more HP, and some bits here and there...then think that they can sucker us in? Sorry Mate, e9x M3 was the shyt and just about everything else after that as far as I'm concerned has just gone downhill fast. Maybe others will pay thru the nose for these retreads but count me out...
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Eau_Rouge111 Lieutenant 356 Rep 478 Posts Drives: 2009 128i and 2007 Z4M Coupe Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Mississauga, Canada iTrader: (0)	BMW could have just offered these upgrades as M performance upgrades at their dealerships instead of coming out with another gimmic to buy an M4. I'm sure there are lots of M4 owners who buy the individual upgrades for their cars and BMW would make lots of $ at it
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michal12 Lieutenant 204 Rep 400 Posts Drives: 2023 Z4 M40i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CZ iTrader: (0)	Depreciation The pricing is rather steep. But depends how we look at the future depreciation. E93 GTS and CRT model held their prices pretty well so original MSRP didnt matter that much. With this CS, it is hard to tell as it is not a limited run per se.
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mkoesel Moderator 7510 Rep 19,370 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	With production starting in July 2017 (as had been rumored for some time), and going for two years, that actually means that it will end about a year before the last F82 M4 rolls off the line in June 2020. This is probably what they mean by "limited edition". Of course, there will still be a limited number produced over those two years, but I suspect we are talking about thousands per year, nothing like the ~800 units of the GTS available world wide. I notice the press release does not include the deck lid among the panels that are made from CFRP. I wonder - does this mean that the M4 CS actually has the 4 Series deck lid and not the one used on the standard M4 (which is CFRP)? Or is it simply an erroneous omission from the press release? Edit: Technically, I guess the M4 deck lid is C-SMC, so I suppose that's why it was not named in the list with the others which are true CFRP.
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