Alberta M3 Represent.....sigh.

[Lups]

Europe is different. Not only higher speeds, but we teach our children to walk across the road after looking. This in the long run makes people be more aware in traffic also while driving.

We take pride in things like knowing you don't need an indicator to switch lanes, but when you do so, you let the others know what you are going to do. You give them time to adjust to your next move.

How about starting with this? Small improvements but maybe enough to make the roads safe enough for higher speeds.

[rivesc]

Originally Posted by Never Convicted

...too bad they didn't catch the Genesis he was chasing.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Bluex

And I never realized how true this was until I drove on the A-bahn myself recently.


But if I didn't see it in 5 days worth of heavy driving, that does say something. I come across a d-bag driver daily here

I encountered plenty of drivers on the autobahn who would merge into the left lane in front of me at a much lower speed and some would not yield and move to the right when I came up behind them.

You are probably right that more people take driving seriously in Germany than the US

Maybe the key difference is in Europe there are so many cars with very small displacement diesels and those drivers don't even bother driving in the left lane

EDIT: dang, car impounded for 50kph/30mph over the limit. That's so draconian and such a revenue grab by the government. 80-85mph on a 55mph limit freeway with 4 lanes each way is so not a big deal. and that was in the middle of nowhere

[/// M sa]

If i was caught in VA doing that speed I would still be in jail no bail. Fucking draconian laws here right outside of DC. But then again if I was doing that speed in a genny zone I am sure the cop wouldn't even come after me thinking his radar is broke since there is no way a Hyundai... Never mind lol

[Never Convicted]

Originally Posted by OneRib

Expenses paid by those who want that license.

It would be a 1/2 mile long lane.

[/// M sa]

How the f a jet takes off only at 154 mph with all
Of that weight??

[Lups]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I encountered plenty of drivers on the autobahn who would merge into the left lane in front of me at a much lower speed and some would not yield and move to the right when I came up behind them.

You are probably right that more people take driving seriously in Germany than the US

Maybe the key difference is in Europe there are so many cars with very small displacement diesels and those drivers don't even bother driving in the left lane

EDIT: dang, car impounded for 50kph/30mph over the limit. That's so draconian and such a revenue grab by the government. 80-85mph on a 55mph limit freeway with 4 lanes each way is so not a big deal. and that was in the middle of nowhere

I spent 40 minutes today teaching my sister-in-law (I'm getting a divorce. I can't take this anymore) to drive.

She has worked as a truck driver while in university, and her being old, 43 (female old. We hit pension age at 40) her having driven for 25 years, I truly thought this would not be so hard.

Two scratched rims. My headache is so bad I want to kill her, and luckily I only have 2 months and 13 hours until i can drop her off to the airport.

Some people are never meant to go behind a wheel. We just should accept this also.

Oh, she's a Finn. It takes two years to get a license there.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

2. In germany and other places with high speed limits, drivers tend to be just fine in terms of other-vehicle-safety....but the damage involved in say, a deer suddenly jumping out in front of you is dramatically magnified. You can't control for this.

As a tidbit, in Germany, a lot of Autobahns are protected from wildlife by electrical fences. Further, underpasses are built so wildlife car cross the Autobahn safely and their whereabouts not limited.

[M4TW]

Originally Posted by myzmak

"Police have nabbed a motorist in central Alberta who was clocked driving 248 km/h in a 100 km/h zone — about the same takeoff speed as a Boeing 737 jet airliner."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle24659809/

Funny thing is he was on his way to the race track......

He was caught near Castrol Raceway, it doesn't say he was on his way to the race track (unless you can point to something). There was a track event the day before according to the Track Junkies website, but not that day. I mention this to defend the honour of BMW owners who responsibly use the track to get their yahoos out instead of public roads. I would like to believe that having a track option curtails this sort of thing.

Having driven that road on the way to the track myself, it's not a choice road for this sort of hooliganism regardless of the car's (or the driver's) high speed credentials. Firstly, it is a two-way road (the police car was coming toward him when he got tagged) and secondly, there are grid roads emptying on to it where he could easily have obliterated himself and someone else in a pickup truck.

Having said that, I could well imagine that feeling in the stomach that the driver must have gotten when he saw the cop hit his lights. To his credit, he pulled over as soon as he did. He'll have a reasonable defence to dangerous driving based on the many cases which say that speed alone is not enough to support the charge.

Myzmak has offered to defend him - provided he turns over his M3 as a retainer.

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

As a tidbit, in Germany, a lot of Autobahns are protected from wildlife by electrical fences. Further, underpasses are built so wildlife car cross the Autobahn safely and their whereabouts not limited.

That is amazing... Here in our hood a deer is killed every other day by a car... Cause America we love killing nature hell we effing hunt with our bellies and fridges full and call it a sport 😜

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by OneRib

We aren't ready, but we could rather quickly (years) create high speed lanes and a special qualification to drive on them. Just like the HOV lanes and you have to have a transponder on your car to use it. Transponder can only be activated by inserting your license and entering a pin. Expenses paid by those who want that license.

Austin, TX has an 85mph limit toll road.

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Austin, TX has an 85mph limit toll road.

We have a 75 mph green way as well but then it turns in to 55 after 10 miles.

[WVUDrJay]

I've been over 150 twice. Long straight stretches clear view early morning no traffic. Car gets there pretty fast. I suspect more people have done this than are letting on. Car goes so fast so easy. Not saying it's smart but it is still fun.

I also did a surgery residency and know all about what can happen so consider me informed.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by /// M sa

We have a 75 mph green way as well but then it turns in to 55 after 10 miles.

Most of our highways are 70 mph or 75 mph (traffic moves at 80 - 85), but on the 85 mph tollway traffic cruises at about 95 mph.

[OneRib]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Austin, TX has an 85mph limit toll road.

Good start

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Most of our highways are 70 mph or 75 mph (traffic moves at 80 - 85), but on the 85 mph tollway traffic cruises at about 95 mph.

I know we do too at the 75 we go 100 lol Once 55 comes up back to 60 cause... Well coppers

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by WVUDrJay

I've been over 150 twice. Long straight stretches clear view early morning no traffic. Car gets there pretty fast. I suspect more people have done this than are letting on. Car goes so fast so easy. Not saying it's smart but it is still fun.

I also did a surgery residency and know all about what can happen so consider me informed.

Early morning runs with a group of us (911s, Ms etc) with radar and laser detectors we hit the same speed but not often...

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I encountered plenty of drivers on the autobahn who would merge into the left lane in front of me at a much lower speed and some would not yield and move to the right when I came up behind them.

You are probably right that more people take driving seriously in Germany than the US

Maybe the key difference is in Europe there are so many cars with very small displacement diesels and those drivers don't even bother driving in the left lane

EDIT: dang, car impounded for 50kph/30mph over the limit. That's so draconian and such a revenue grab by the government. 80-85mph on a 55mph limit freeway with 4 lanes each way is so not a big deal. and that was in the middle of nowhere

Yeah, it is NOT the law in alberta you get towed for 50 kph over - just something being debated.

BUT across the border in BC (Where i have a place in the mountains) it is a mandatory tow for 40 km over speed limit (25 mph)

auto. matic.

even if you are in a passing lane (Which, in the mountains, you frequently use to haul ass around the campers and trucks). they will set up at the end of those and...wham. you and the family are out of the car, it is getting towed.

It was brought in because in Vancouver they kept catching trust fund kids racing lambos and shit and getting into trouble. BUT....to my mind, it proves the problems with automatic laws like that.

Originally Posted by M4TW

He was caught near Castrol Raceway, it doesn't say he was on his way to the race track (unless you can point to something).

i thought i read that in one of the articles i read but...maybe not. hmmm....

Having driven that road on the way to the track myself, it's not a choice road for this sort of hooliganism regardless of the car's (or the driver's) high speed credentials.

i was on it last fall going from the YEG International (woo) to Drayton Valley (bigger wooooo). I have a client that has a LOT of wells in the area. Lots of rigs, trucks, farms, etc. I agree - early in the morning BUT...folks could be out.

Having said that, I could well imagine that feeling in the stomach that the driver must have gotten when he saw the cop hit his lights. To his credit, he pulled over as soon as he did. He'll have a reasonable defence to dangerous driving based on the many cases which say that speed alone is not enough to support the charge.

Myzmak has offered to defend him - provided he turns over his M3 as a retainer.

If people were smart and reasonable and thought carefully M4TW, we wouldnt have clients.

....fortunately, 4,000 years of recorded human history tells me my kids will still eat tonight.

[m34m]

Anal retentive Canadians. I'm from Toronto and saw a Porsche being towed from the side of the highway today which happens when you exceed limit by 50km/h (80mph). They take away what little joy there is in this wasteland.

[JoeFromPA]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

As a tidbit, in Germany, a lot of Autobahns are protected from wildlife by electrical fences. Further, underpasses are built so wildlife car cross the Autobahn safely and their whereabouts not limited.

Thanks - did not know that. Further support for this.

[Bluex]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

I think this is a good time to rehash several relevant facts:

1. Germans don't have de-limited speed zones everywhere. They have them where roads, surroundings, and visibility of those roads are conducive to de-limited speed.

I wish I had the little "speed sheet" handy they gave us upon check in at the Welt premium lounge. It goes through the default speed limits based upon roads surrounding and within cities and then smaller villages.

So to add to this point, I found (at least on the long stretches of road I traveled) that the autobahn had far more speed restrictions overall. The unlimited zones were much fewer and certainly did not last for terribly long before you hit another construction zone, or other speed limited zones. The unlimited zones were flat, had high visibility and far more conducive to high speed driving.

[secretariat]

Master C17, suppose I'm driving down what appears to be a deserted street, and I come across an abandoned couch facing the woods. I feel the need at this particular point to unload a .38 revolver into the couch for target practice. I unload as I'm driving past, hitting that target 6 times and continue driving. Wow what a hoot, that was fun. Because I decided that it was safe to do this and really who am I going to hurt the street appears to be abandoned. I would call this reckless endangerment or a total disregard for others safety.

Anyone have a problem with this? OK read on.


Next days headline "A drunken teenager fell asleep on an abandoned couch last night and was found this morning riddled with bullets."

It is the same premise, you do not have a right to put my safety or anyone's safety at risk because the road is empty and I'm going to push my car as fast as it goes even though I am heading to a track to do the same thing.. Now I understand coming home from a ski trip 6am on the highway on a Sunday morning, now that is an empty road and getting on your car for a couple of quick bursts of POWAA. But really 92 mph over the speed limit is dangerous and stupid I don't care how empty the road is..