F80 M3 / F82 M4 Real World Tested Performance Numbers Database (with Competitors)

swamp2 · 07-16-2014, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biglare

So this is a cut and paste data thread from other sources?

:

That isn't 100% obvious...? Everything here is traceable to the source, either directly in most cases or to a forum scan of the article.

swamp2 · 07-16-2014, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damasconian

On this Forum, I see a lot of M-DCT when referring to the auto transmission.

Does that mean Manual-DCT or M(referring to M cars)-DCT?

The latter. M-DCT is simply BMWs official name for their Dual Clutch Transmissions used in M vehicles.

swamp2 · 07-16-2014, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

how about their 5-60 times as that is the "real world" number that will mean the most. 0-60 in pretty meaningless as cars like the Audi S6 post amazing times (3.7) but then put up 4.9 second 5-60 times!

The M3 as tested by Car and Driver was 3.9 0-60 and 4.2 5-60, so at a stop light it should easily take out the S6, but 0-60 times make people think otherwise.

Please add any data you can find. I've yet to have a single looker/poster help collect the data. The formatting to keep the look nice and clean is very easy to understand and if it is not perfect I'll be happy to clean it up.

uae247 · 07-16-2014, 03:58 PM

So

My VBOX data was spot on!
Very accurate.

Hats off to V Box

Watwood · 07-16-2014, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

My best theory for this is that the Vette has extrodinarily high drag coefficient. With the cars power and frontal area it should top out well above 180 mph (in fact even above 195...), yet an actual test from Car and Driver found it to top out at a "mere" 181 mph, drag limited, of course. There is just no way this is the case unless the car is: significantly over rated, has some very odd and high drive train losses or a high Cd. I think the latter is the most plausible. More discsussion on this starting around posts #135-
#151 here.

I disagree. I say it's the transmission's gear ratios.

The Stingray's Cd is running in the 0.3 range, where the new M3/M4 is running in the 0.34 range. Not to mention the frontal area of the new M3/M4 is larger than the new Stingray.

M3 height & width: 54.4in x 73.9in = ~ 28sqft
Stingray height & width: 48.6in x 73.9in = ~ 25sqft

Considering air density and velocities are the same at any given point, the Stingray's drag is 20% less than the new M3.

Tire heights and rear end ratios are near the same between the two cars, but the DCT's transmission ratios vs the Z51s TR6070 are significantly higher numerically (torque multiplier) and shorter in length, putting a lot more power to the ground in a shorter amount of time.

swamp2 · 07-16-2014, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watwood

The Stingray's Cd is running in the 0.3 range, where the new M3/M4 is running in the 0.34 range. Not to mention the frontal area of the new M3/M4 is larger than the new Stingray.

M3 height & width: 54.4in x 73.9in = ~ 28sqft
Stingray height & width: 48.6in x 73.9in = ~ 25sqft

Considering air density and velocities are the same at any given point, the Stingray's drag is 20% less than the new M3.

Like any other specification, the OEMs can fib or outright lie. A top speeds test finding the Stingray drag limited at 181 mph indicates either Cd or frontal area are way different than claimed, and Cd being much easier to fudge (hard if not impossible for an individual to measure) is by far the most likely spec fudged. The car simply can't have such a low drag limited Vmax with this much power and it's stated Cd and aero. Physically impossible. I can link you to a post with an example of a full manual calculation of this if you like (for the case of the E9X M3).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watwood

I disagree. I say it's the transmission's gear ratios.
...
Tire heights and rear end ratios are near the same between the two cars, but the DCT's transmission ratios vs the Z51s TR6070 are significantly higher numerically (torque multiplier) and shorter in length, putting a lot more power to the ground in a shorter amount of time.

Any proof of this or just speculation? Gear ratios typically don't have a big impact on performance across multiple gears. Peak power is what matters, nearly infinitely more than gear ratio differences. Now granted if you chose some wildly inappropriate gearing for the vehicles weight, power and redline, you could really screw up performance but these are pretty well optimized by the factory. Perhaps we can look at the related debate that a change in final drive can provide an overall improvement in performance. It can't by the way. Perhaps some isolated in gear improvement but other gears will probably then suffer and you'll have a wash in any real contest across multiple gears.

Paul-Bracq-BMW · 07-16-2014, 06:12 PM

I think you should add:

0-100 kmh (62mph) and measured weight.

From Auto Motor und Sport (June 2014), M4 DCT.
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=998419

0 ~ 100kmh (62mph): 4.2 s
0 ~ 100 mph (o-160kmh) time: 8.8 s
0 ~ 200 km/h time: 13.6 s
1/4 mile time and speed: 12.3 @ 191 kmh (118.68 mph)
100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance: 34.4m

Measured weight: 1572kg or 3465.7 pounds (vs 1655kg or 3648.7 pounds for V8 M3) for M4 DCT including:
Front/rear parking sensors
Adaptative suspension
Carbon ceramic brakes and 19inch wheels
Full leather interior

tooch · 07-16-2014, 08:20 PM

Nice compilation

isherdholi · 07-17-2014, 04:44 AM

Where it says "BMW M3" is this the new F80 M3, or the E9x M3?

swamp2 · 07-17-2014, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isherdholi

Where it says "BMW M3" is this the new F80 M3, or the E9x M3?

According to my stated request to have all cars be current models M3 means F80 M3.

swamp2 · 07-17-2014, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Hey Swamp, the 991S ran 11.8 118mph according to Road and Track article you posted..also did 0-100 in 8.4 sec.

Dave

I can't find the 118 nor 8.4 only the 11.8 in that article.

swamp2 · 07-17-2014, 11:42 AM

Added some more EU specs.

0 ~ 60mph time:

Nissn GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track)
Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend)
Porsche 911s PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)

0 ~ 100 km/hr time:

BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

0 ~ 100 mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 911s PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 160 km/hr time:

BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

0 ~ 150 mph time:

M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 911s PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 200 km/h time:

BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto)
BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto)

1/4 mile time and speed:

Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver)
Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar)
Porsche 911s PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar)

400m time and speed:

BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport)

Standing 1 km:

BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar)
BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW)
Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers)
BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW)

70 mph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL])
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver)

60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance:

BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar)
Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend)

100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto)

200 kph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto)

Skidpad 300ft (unless noted):

Porsche 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver)
M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver)

Hockenheim time:
(all from Sportauto)

1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S
1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
1:10.9 Audi R8 V10
1:11.5 Corvette Stingray
1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT
1:13.4 BMW M5
1:14.3 Audi RS5

Nurburgring Nordeschleife time:
(20.6 km, all from Sportauto)

7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S
7:45 Audi R8 V10
7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
7:51 BMW M4 M-DCT
7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S
7:59 Audi RS5
8:05 BMW M5

swamp2 · 07-17-2014, 11:46 PM

Lots more...

0 ~ 60mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 2.9 s (Motor Trend)
Nissn GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track)
Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend)
Porsche 911s PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)

0 ~ 100 km/hr time:

Nissan GT-R: 3.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 4.2 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 4.2 s (Auto Bild)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 4.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.4 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.4 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.5 s (Auto Bild)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

0 ~ 100 mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 7.5 s (Evo)
BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 911s PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 160 km/hr time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 8.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.1 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.5 s (Sportauto)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 9.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

0 ~ 150 mph time:

M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 911s PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 200 km/h time:

Nissan GT-R: 11.5 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto)
BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.1 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

1/4 mile time and speed:

Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 122.7 mph (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver)
Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar)
Porsche 911s PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar)

400m time and speed:

BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport)

Standing 1 km:

Nissan GT-R: 21.3 (Evo)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar)
BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW)
Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers)
BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW)

70 mph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL])
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver)

60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance:

BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar)
Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend)

100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 33.5 m (Sportauto)
Nissan GT-R: 33.8 m (Sportauto)
BMW M4: 33.9 m (Auto Bild)
Audi RS5: 33.9 m (Auto Bild)
BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto)

200 kph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto)

Skidpad 300ft (unless noted):

Porsche 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 1.05 g (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver)
M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver)

Hockenheim time:
(all from Sportauto)

1:10 Nissan GT-R
1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S
1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
1:10.9 Audi R8 V10
1:11.5 Corvette Stingray
1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT
1:13.4 BMW M5
1:14.3 Audi RS5

Nurburgring Nordeschleife time:
(20.6 km, all from Sportauto)

7:36 Nissan GT-R
7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S
7:45 Audi R8 V10
7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
7:51 BMW M4 M-DCT
7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S
7:59 Audi RS5
8:05 BMW M5

swamp2 · 07-17-2014, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romo

Nice !!

Would it be possible to add Cayman GT(S) times?

Nordschleife Cayman GTS 7.53 to my best knowledge, only 2 seconds slower to an M4

Can't find any full tests anywhere.

M6-Coupe · 07-18-2014, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

Lot more...

0 ~ 60mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 2.9 s (Motor Trend)
Nissn GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track)
Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend)
Porsche 911s PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)

0 ~ 100 km/hr time:

Nissan GT-R: 3.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 4.2 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 4.2 s (Auto Bild)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 4.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.4 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.4 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.5 s (Auto Bild)

0 ~ 100 mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 7.5 s (Evo)
BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 911s PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 160 km/hr time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 8.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.1 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.5 s (Sportauto)

0 ~ 150 mph time:

M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 911s PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 200 km/h time:

Nissan GT-R: 11.5 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto)
BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.1 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto)

1/4 mile time and speed:

Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 122.7 mph (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver)
Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar)
Porsche 911s PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar)

400m time and speed:

BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport)

Standing 1 km:

Nissan GT-R: 21.3 (Evo)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar)
BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW)
Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers)
BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW)

70 mph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL])
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver)

60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance:

BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar)
Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend)

100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 33.5 m (Sportauto)
Nissan GT-R: 33.8 m (Sportauto)
BMW M4: 33.9 m (Auto Bild)
Audi RS5: 33.9 m (Auto Bild)
BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto)

200 kph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto)

Skidpad 300ft (unless noted):

Porsche 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 1.05 g (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver)
M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver)

Hockenheim time:
(all from Sportauto)

1:10 Nissan GT-R
1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S
1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
1:10.9 Audi R8 V10
1:11.5 Corvette Stingray
1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT
1:13.4 BMW M5
1:14.3 Audi RS5

Nurburgring Nordeschleife time:
(20.6 km, all from Sportauto)

7:36 Nissan GT-R
7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S
7:45 Audi R8 V10
7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
7:51 BMW M4 M-DCT
7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S
7:59 Audi RS5
8:05 BMW M5

Op, thank for collecting the information; however some of them do not make sense! for example how it's possible a car can go 0-60mph in 3.7 second and then 0-62pmh (100km/h) in 4.3 second!!! (I'm referring to M5). I think it should be a good experience if you consider each category with the same source... for example all the numbers about 0-60 by motor trend! then the numbers make more sense! I know it's kinda hard job....just my opinion

swamp2 · 07-18-2014, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Op, thank for collecting the information; however some of them do not make sense! for example how it's possible a car can go 0-60mph in 3.7 second and then 0-62pmh (100km/h) in 4.3 second!!! (I'm referring to M5). I think it should be a good experience if you consider each category with the same source... for example all the numbers about 0-60 by motor trend! then the numbers make more sense! I know it's kinda hard job....just my opinion

This makes perfect sense. As has been discussed in many other posts here:

Dominant factor in this particular comparison is roll out. US testing and drag racing standards allow the vehicle to move 1 full foot before the clock begins counting. This will make 0.2 - 0.4 seconds of difference in the exact same contest. This was discussed in the OP.
60 mph vs. 100 km/hr will make another ~0.2 seconds.
These facts just about precisely explain this particular difference.

In other cases we have a plethora of other imperfectly controlled variables; driver, state of vehicle break in, quality of road surface, weather, natural vehicle variations (power and weight), road grade, different tires, etc. Part of this exercise is the observe this variation and better understand outlier data and average vs. best possible performance for each car.

M6-Coupe · 07-18-2014, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

This makes perfect sense. As has been discussed in many other posts here:

Dominant factor in this particular comparison is roll out. US testing and drag racing standards allow the vehicle to move 1 full foot before the clock begins counting. This will make 0.2 - 0.4 seconds of difference in the exact same contest. This was discussed in the OP.
60 mph vs. 100 km/hr will make another ~0.2 seconds.
These facts just about precisely explain this particular difference.

In other cases we have a plethora of other imperfectly controlled variables; driver, state of vehicle break in, quality of road surface, weather, natural vehicle variations (power and weight), road grade, different tires, etc. Part of this exercise is the observe this variation and better understand outlier data and average vs. best possible performance for each car.

Thanks.
Just for your records, BMW M5(F10) 0-100 km/h: 3.9 second
Nurburgring : 7:55
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/bmw_m5_f10.html

swamp2 · 07-18-2014, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Thanks.
Just for your records, BMW M5(F10) 0-100 km/h: 3.9 second
Nurburgring : 7:55
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/bmw_m5_f10.html

I really like fastestlaps.com, however, their straight line results are entirely non-documented. I like that advantage of this list. Do you have any idea if these are the best published number available anywhere for each particular spec for each particular car? Their lap times, however, are largely the opposite. This time though in particular has little to no documentation...

M6-Coupe · 07-18-2014, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

I really like fastestlaps.com, however, their straight line results are entirely non-documented. I like that advantage of this list. Do you have any idea if these are the best published number available anywhere for each particular spec for each particular car? Their lap times, however, are largely the opposite. This time though in particular has little to no documentation...

well generally, I agree with you. As you explained before it depends on many things as far as driver, the condition of day ,etc; however particularly some results are gathered from different valuable sources. For example the 7:55 lap time is listed in 100 top lap time of Nurburgring:
http://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
or 3.9 (0-100 km/h) does make sense if 0-60 mph is 3.7, etc

swamp2 · 07-18-2014, 01:24 AM

Added C63 AMG 507
M3/4 highlighted in blue

0 ~ 60mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 2.9 s (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track)
Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 3.8 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)

0 ~ 100 km/hr time:

Nissan GT-R: 3.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 4.2 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 4.2 s (Auto Bild)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 4.2 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 4.3 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.4 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.4 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 4.5 s (Auto Bild)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

0 ~ 100 mph time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 7.5 s (Evo)
BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 9.0 s (Motor Trend)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 9.2 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 160 km/hr time:

Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 8.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Sportauto)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 8.8 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.1 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.5 s (Sportauto)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 9.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

0 ~ 150 mph time:

M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar)
Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 200 km/h time:

Nissan GT-R: 11.5 s (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 13.5 s (Sportauto)
BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto)
BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.1 s (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto)
Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Auto Motor und Sport)

1/4 mile time and speed:

Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 122.7 mph (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver)
Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver)
BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 12.2 s @ 117.4 mph (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 12.3 s @ 117 mph (Car and Driver)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar)

400m time and speed:

BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport)

Standing 1 km:

Nissan GT-R: 21.3 (Evo)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK?: 21.7 s (Automobilismo)
BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar)
BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW)
Porsche Carrera 911S PDK?: 22.0 s (Quattroruote)
Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers)
BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 23.2 s (The Citizen)

70 mph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL])
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver)
BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 156 ft (Car and Driver)

60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance:

BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar)
Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Nissan GT-R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 103 ft (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend)
BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend)

100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 33.5 m (Sportauto)
Nissan GT-R: 33.8 m (Sportauto)
BMW M4: 33.9 m (Auto Bild)
Audi RS5: 33.9 m (Auto Bild)
BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto)
BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 38.7 m (Sportauto)

200 kph ~ 0 braking distance:

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto)
Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto)

Skidpad 300ft (unless noted):

Porsche Carrera 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 1.05 g (Motor Trend)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver)
BMW M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
BMW M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver)
Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver)
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 0.91 g (Motor Trend)

Hockenheim time:
(all from Sportauto)

1:10 Nissan GT-R
1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S
1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
1:10.9 Audi R8 V10
1:11.5 Corvette Stingray
1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT
1:13.4 BMW M5
1:13.8 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507
1:14.3 Audi RS5

Nurburgring Nordeschleife time:
(20.6 km, all from Sportauto)

7:36 Nissan GT-R
7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S
7:45 Audi R8 V10
7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
7:52 BMW M4 M-DCT
7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S
7:59 Audi RS5
8:05 BMW M5

swamp2 · 07-18-2014, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

I really like fastestlaps.com, however, their straight line results are entirely non-documented. I like that advantage of this list. Do you have any idea if these are the best published number available anywhere for each particular spec for each particular car? Their lap times, however, are largely the opposite. This time though in particular has little to no documentation...

Pretty sure that was post 10,000! I hope to continue to bring better science/engineering to the BMW enthusiast community.

to all of the great participants here I get to discuss, debate and learn from.

Kayani_1 · 07-23-2014, 09:11 PM

Nice numbers by M4. I can't wait to see a C7 with new 8-speed auto tested against the M-DCT M4. Also, C7 7-speed manual tested against M4 with 6-speed. Hope somebody comes with a proper comparison apples to apples and not oranges to apple where you pitch a DCT car against a manual car to determine whose the fastest.

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Paul-Bracq-BMW Moderator 4092 Rep 1,973 Posts Drives: 1981 323i, sports M5, LSD Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I think you should add: 0-100 kmh (62mph) and measured weight. From Auto Motor und Sport (June 2014), M4 DCT. http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=998419 0 ~ 100kmh (62mph): 4.2 s 0 ~ 100 mph (o-160kmh) time: 8.8 s 0 ~ 200 km/h time: 13.6 s 1/4 mile time and speed: 12.3 @ 191 kmh (118.68 mph) 100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance: 34.4m Measured weight: 1572kg or 3465.7 pounds (vs 1655kg or 3648.7 pounds for V8 M3) for M4 DCT including: Front/rear parking sensors Adaptative suspension Carbon ceramic brakes and 19inch wheels Full leather interior __________________ 1981 323i, 143 Kashmir-Metallic, 0094 Pergament, Sports M5, LSD.
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swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Added some more EU specs. 0 ~ 60mph time: Nissn GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track) Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend) BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend) Porsche 911s PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver) 0 ~ 100 km/hr time: BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 0 ~ 100 mph time: Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver) BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver) Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 911s PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar) 0 ~ 160 km/hr time: BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 0 ~ 150 mph time: M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar) Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 911s PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar) 0 ~ 200 km/h time: BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto) BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport) BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto) Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto) 1/4 mile time and speed: Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver) Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver) Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver) BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar) Porsche 911s PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar) 400m time and speed: BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport) Standing 1 km: BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar) BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW) Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers) BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW) 70 mph ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL]) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver) BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar) Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver) BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver) 60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance: BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar) Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend) 100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport) Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto) BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto) 200 kph ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto) Skidpad 300ft (unless noted): Porsche 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver) M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend) M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend) BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver) Hockenheim time: (all from Sportauto) 1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S 1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 1:10.9 Audi R8 V10 1:11.5 Corvette Stingray 1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT 1:13.4 BMW M5 1:14.3 Audi RS5 Nurburgring Nordeschleife time: (20.6 km, all from Sportauto) 7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S 7:45 Audi R8 V10 7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 7:51 BMW M4 M-DCT 7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S 7:59 Audi RS5 8:05 BMW M5 __________________ E92 M3 \| Space Gray on Fox Red \| M-DCT \| CF Roof \| RAC RG63 Wheels \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| \| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust \| Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors \| \| Alekshop Back up Camera \| GP Thunders \| BMW Aluminum Pedals \| Elite Angels \| \| XPEL Full Front Wrap \| Hardwired V1 \| Interior Xenon Light Kit \|
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07-17-2014, 11:46 PM	#79
swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Lots more... 0 ~ 60mph time: Nissan GT-R: 2.9 s (Motor Trend) Nissn GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track) Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend) BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend) Porsche 911s PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver) 0 ~ 100 km/hr time: Nissan GT-R: 3.3 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 M-DCT: 4.2 s (Sportauto) Audi RS5 DSG: 4.2 s (Auto Bild) BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.3 s (Sportauto) BMW M5: 4.3 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 4.4 s (Auto Bild) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.4 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 4.5 s (Auto Bild) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 0 ~ 100 mph time: Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 7.5 s (Evo) BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver) Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 911s PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar) 0 ~ 160 km/hr time: Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Sportauto) BMW M5: 8.7 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.1 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.5 s (Sportauto) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 9.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 0 ~ 150 mph time: M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar) Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 911s PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar) 0 ~ 200 km/h time: Nissan GT-R: 11.5 s (Sportauto) BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto) BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport) BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.1 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto) Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 1/4 mile time and speed: Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 122.7 mph (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver) Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver) Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver) BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar) Porsche 911s PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar) 400m time and speed: BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport) Standing 1 km: Nissan GT-R: 21.3 (Evo) BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar) BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW) Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers) BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW) 70 mph ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL]) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver) BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar) Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver) BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver) 60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance: BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar) Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 101 ft (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend) 100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S: 33.5 m (Sportauto) Nissan GT-R: 33.8 m (Sportauto) BMW M4: 33.9 m (Auto Bild) Audi RS5: 33.9 m (Auto Bild) BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport) Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto) BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto) 200 kph ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto) Skidpad 300ft (unless noted): Porsche 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 1.05 g (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver) M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend) M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend) BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver) Hockenheim time: (all from Sportauto) 1:10 Nissan GT-R 1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S 1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 1:10.9 Audi R8 V10 1:11.5 Corvette Stingray 1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT 1:13.4 BMW M5 1:14.3 Audi RS5 Nurburgring Nordeschleife time: (20.6 km, all from Sportauto) 7:36 Nissan GT-R 7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S 7:45 Audi R8 V10 7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 7:51 BMW M4 M-DCT 7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S 7:59 Audi RS5 8:05 BMW M5 __________________ E92 M3 \| Space Gray on Fox Red \| M-DCT \| CF Roof \| RAC RG63 Wheels \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| \| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust \| Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors \| \| Alekshop Back up Camera \| GP Thunders \| BMW Aluminum Pedals \| Elite Angels \| \| XPEL Full Front Wrap \| Hardwired V1 \| Interior Xenon Light Kit \| Last edited by swamp2; 07-18-2014 at 12:28 AM..
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07-18-2014, 01:24 AM	#86
swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Added C63 AMG 507 M3/4 highlighted in blue 0 ~ 60mph time: Nissan GT-R: 2.9 s (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver) Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track) Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend) BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 3.8 s (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver) BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver) 0 ~ 100 km/hr time: Nissan GT-R: 3.3 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 M-DCT: 4.2 s (Sportauto) Audi RS5 DSG: 4.2 s (Auto Bild) BMW M4 6MT: 4.2 s (Auto Motor und Sport) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 4.2 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.3 s (Sportauto) BMW M5: 4.3 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 4.4 s (Auto Bild) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 4.4 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 4.5 s (Auto Bild) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 0 ~ 100 mph time: Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 7.5 s (Evo) BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver) Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 9.0 s (Motor Trend) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 9.2 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar) 0 ~ 160 km/hr time: Nissan GT-R: 7.4 s (Sportauto) BMW M5: 8.7 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 8.8 s (Auto Motor und Sport) BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Sportauto) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 8.8 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.1 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 9.5 s (Sportauto) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 9.5 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 0 ~ 150 mph time: M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar) Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar) 0 ~ 200 km/h time: Nissan GT-R: 11.5 s (Sportauto) BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 13.5 s (Sportauto) BM4 M4 6MT: 13.6 s (Auto Motor und Sport) BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto) BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.1 s (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto) Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Auto Motor und Sport) 1/4 mile time and speed: Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 122.7 mph (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver) Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver) Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver) BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 12.2 s @ 117.4 mph (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend) BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 12.3 s @ 117 mph (Car and Driver) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver) Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar) 400m time and speed: BMW M4 6MT: 12.3 s @ 191 km/hr (Auto Motor und Sport) Standing 1 km: Nissan GT-R: 21.3 (Evo) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK?: 21.7 s (Automobilismo) BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar) BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW) Porsche Carrera 911S PDK?: 22.0 s (Quattroruote) Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers) BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 23.2 s (The Citizen) 70 mph ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL]) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver) BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar) Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver) BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 156 ft (Car and Driver) 60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance: BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar) Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend) Nissan GT-R: 101 ft (Motor Trend) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 103 ft (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend) BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend) 100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S: 33.5 m (Sportauto) Nissan GT-R: 33.8 m (Sportauto) BMW M4: 33.9 m (Auto Bild) Audi RS5: 33.9 m (Auto Bild) BMW M4 6MT: 34.4 m (Auto Motor und Sport) Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto) BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 38.7 m (Sportauto) 200 kph ~ 0 braking distance: Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto) Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto) Skidpad 300ft (unless noted): Porsche Carrera 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 1.05 g (Motor Trend) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver) BMW M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend) BMW M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend) BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver) Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver) Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507: 0.91 g (Motor Trend) Hockenheim time: (all from Sportauto) 1:10 Nissan GT-R 1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S 1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 1:10.9 Audi R8 V10 1:11.5 Corvette Stingray 1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT 1:13.4 BMW M5 1:13.8 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507 1:14.3 Audi RS5 Nurburgring Nordeschleife time: (20.6 km, all from Sportauto) 7:36 Nissan GT-R 7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S 7:45 Audi R8 V10 7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series 7:52 BMW M4 M-DCT 7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S 7:59 Audi RS5 8:05 BMW M5 __________________ E92 M3 \| Space Gray on Fox Red \| M-DCT \| CF Roof \| RAC RG63 Wheels \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| \| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust \| Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors \| \| Alekshop Back up Camera \| GP Thunders \| BMW Aluminum Pedals \| Elite Angels \| \| XPEL Full Front Wrap \| Hardwired V1 \| Interior Xenon Light Kit \| Last edited by swamp2; 07-18-2014 at 02:01 AM..
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07-23-2014, 09:11 PM	#88
Kayani_1 Lieutenant Colonel 81 Rep 1,656 Posts Drives: BMW E92/E60 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston iTrader: (1)	Nice numbers by M4. I can't wait to see a C7 with new 8-speed auto tested against the M-DCT M4. Also, C7 7-speed manual tested against M4 with 6-speed. Hope somebody comes with a proper comparison apples to apples and not oranges to apple where you pitch a DCT car against a manual car to determine whose the fastest. __________________ nickname"BAD 3",MHD E85 tune,RennArt catback non-resonated exhaust,VRSF Downpipes, VRSF 7"FMIC,VRSF stock side inlets,SSQV BOV,ECS CP,M-performance alcantara steering,retrofit M3 paddle shifters,Alpina B3 tranny flash,AFE power seal CAI,LED angels,ST Coilovers,M3 upper/lower control arms,E93 M3 Front Swaybar ,235/35/19x9 ,275/30/19x9.5. M sport bumpers, CF diffuser. When in doubt..flat out.
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