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The the track; Do you recommend MDM - on and DSC - off ? What are the different setting combo you tested on the track? Or all electric nanny off? |
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07-01-2014, 11:24 AM | #26 | |
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My dad owns an F10 M5. He'll be the first to tell you its gotten big and heavy, and the DCT gets boring, but its fast as hell straight line, and its comfortable and its a great daily driver. |
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07-01-2014, 11:28 AM | #27 |
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haha i imagine it would be right at home as long as its on the ground.... most of the time
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07-01-2014, 11:28 AM | #28 | |
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However, I do not at all feel this review warrants the same skepticism. I don't know the OP but he clearly has some skill, experience that dwarf mine. OP, thank you for the details and attempt at scores as well. Sometimes I think scoring can be a bit arbitrary (say in some of the big magazine comparisons). Here, however, I simply view the scores are nice objective and subjective rankings on the relative performance and capability of the car. There is certainly more evidence here that the CSiC brakes are going to offer marginal if any improvement (how much better than this could they be). I'm certainly a bit surprised by the lack of love for the M-DCT but that doesn't detract from the otherwise excellent review.
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07-01-2014, 11:29 AM | #29 | |
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Thanks for writing this. You are a pleasure to read.
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07-01-2014, 11:31 AM | #31 |
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Great read from someone who has actually owned and raced M cars. Not just theoretical knowledge, actual previous experience. Thumbs way up! The wait for my M4 is gonna be hard.
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07-01-2014, 11:44 AM | #32 |
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my pleasure. just my opinion. can't wait to get it stateside and back on the tracks on east coast.
i'll post some photos later or one of the guys from the trip can do that for me. we got plenty. lots of videos too.
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07-01-2014, 12:26 PM | #33 |
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Now, after having some 2 weeks or so with the car, you have to wait for it to come over on the boat. I'll bet it's gonna be a long hard wait. That's about the only bad thing about doing ED.
Thanks for review. Cheers.
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Thank you.
This is by far the most complete review I have seen on this new chassis. Very much appreciated!
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Quote : Brakes - stock lap after lap no fade. confidence inspiring. the ceramics are not needed. track work will need a slightly more aggressive pad than stock only because the stock pads will wear quickly with aggressive driving. modulation is superb. brake bias is slightly higher in rear than I prefer. rear end will wiggle when threshold braking. but i am just shocked to be talking about such minute things on oem Brake system for any BMW. the fact they work on multiple tracks back-to-back over several days is truly amazing. Porsche is no longer the sole king in the brake department.
F8X- 9.5/10 E9X M - 7/10 Wait wait wait! You are telling me that neither you nor Sabine could over work the oem brakes? I am shocked after the E92 M3 brakes. BTW Sabine driving your car is quite nice! |
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07-01-2014, 12:56 PM | #39 | |
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on the street however the M4 would be my choice 9 times out of 10. the RS is a dedicated track toy. thats what it was designed to do. Its not light enough to compete with a Cup car. its too lean and aggressive to drive on public roads. being so focused on one task has its costs.
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So is the F8x too much for USA roads?
Clearly it is a track beast.
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If you had to change the car (whether from factory or aftermarket), what would you do? Apart from wider tires. What do you think could be improved?
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07-01-2014, 12:59 PM | #42 |
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Great review with substance. I share your love for the RS and pretty much was buying this car for the street, but now I am getting excited about tracking it as well. I ordered the passive suspension and believe I can still change. Have you compared? I was not fond of the adaptive suspension on the e92 and test drove a car with passive suspension and it was planted. But not a lot of money so if it is really better I would not hesitate to change my order. Thanks again for the excellent write up.
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I think anyone driving with instruction would be safe to start off in MDM. DSC intervenes way too easily and causes more problems then it solves. Just remember to start off slowly and build up speed. For me personally I prefer DSC Off - Adaptive Suspension on Sport Plus, Adaptive Steering Sport Plus - Throttle on Sport Plus. this is for a smooth track like Spa or Nurburgring GP. On a rough track like the Nurburgring Nordschleife I settled on Sport mode for the suspension. On autobahn high speed i picked Comfort. Ultimately MDM will slow down the car and uses the rear brakes so the fastest setting for the car would be with DSC completely disabled. As nature intended it. as Sabine says, my butt is my dsc.
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the motor is very suitable for everyday driving with its useable torque. makes awesome noises too. on the RS you will be doing very illegal speeds before you even notice you are going quick.
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