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      11-16-2017, 12:27 PM   #45
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kinda off topic, where do you guys buy your winter tires?
looking to buy a set of 19" for the M3.
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has anyone run 225s squared on a f8x? Other than aesthetic factor, is it safe? I have a set of blizzaks that are one year old
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has anyone run 225s squared on a f8x? Other than aesthetic factor, is it safe? I have a set of blizzaks that are one year old
Perfectly safe, tho your going to hate driving them when it's NOT snowing.

Given your profile says Toronto you would be better suited for a 255 squared setup.
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has anyone run 225s squared on a f8x? Other than aesthetic factor, is it safe? I have a set of blizzaks that are one year old
Perfectly safe, tho your going to hate driving them when it's NOT snowing.

Given your profile says Toronto you would be better suited for a 255 squared setup.
How so? bumpy and uncomfy? I paid almost 2k for my 225s last winter for rim and tire lol so I wana use them this winter and then sell and buy a new 245 square set up next winter
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has anyone run 225s squared on a f8x? Other than aesthetic factor, is it safe? I have a set of blizzaks that are one year old
Perfectly safe, tho your going to hate driving them when it's NOT snowing.

Given your profile says Toronto you would be better suited for a 255 squared setup.
How so? bumpy and uncomfy? I paid almost 2k for my 225s last winter for rim and tire lol so I wana use them this winter and then sell and buy a new 245 square set up next winter
225 won't provide enough grip when you want to boot it in the dry or do a little spirited driving.

If you don't care about that, 225 is fine.
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How narrow can you go on the 437 rears?
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How narrow can you go on the 437 rears?
255 is the narrowest and it's still a little stretched although safe. I'm on my 2nd year 255 squared
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255 is the narrowest and it's still a little stretched although safe. I'm on my 2nd year 255 squared
I looked at going smaller but definitely there will be issues with the tire properly sealing.
255 squared is the best option.
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How narrow can you go on the 437 rears?
255 is the narrowest and it's still a little stretched although safe. I'm on my 2nd year 255 squared
Ok thanks.
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Running 255 square setup.
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Running 255 square setup.
255/35/19 square? Fronts can go narrower?
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Running 255 square setup.
255/35/19 square? Fronts can go narrower?
255/40/18 square. Better to go square IMO. Gives you the ability to rotate wheels front to back. Cheaper to get tires.
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255/35/19 square? Fronts can go narrower?
255/40/18 square. Better to go square IMO. Gives you the ability to rotate wheels front to back. Cheaper to get tires.
Ohh I was looking for sizes for fronts and rears for the 437 wheel 19's
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Running 255 square setup.
255/35/19 square? Fronts can go narrower?
255/40/18 square. Better to go square IMO. Gives you the ability to rotate wheels front to back. Cheaper to get tires.
Ohh I was looking for sizes for fronts and rears for the 437 wheel 19's
I would go with stock sizing. You can run slightly smaller widths if you really want to but I would keep it stock.
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i absolutely love my dunlop winter sport 3D as a sporty winter tire. excellent responsiveness and cornering. these tires retain a lot of sportiness while still ensuring you don't get stuck in the snow. their snow performance isn't as good as more dedicated tires but like mentioned here, if 95%+ of your time is spent driving on wet and dry pavement, this is the right tire for a sports car.

wanted to ask if anyone has been able to compare wider and narrower winter tires in snow? i'm running a square 225 setup on my car, 225/45 in the front and 225/50 in the rear (summer setup is 245/35 front, 275/35 rear) with the idea that a smaller contact patch digs into snow better and a wider contact patch wouldn't dig in as well and is more likely to break traction.

also consistently great service from steelcase tires in markham over the past few years if anyone is still looking for a recommendation as to where to go.
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I'm selling my almost new set on my M3 with Nokian Hakkapaletta's. Used for 1500km only.

235/40/19's.
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245/45R-18 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D DSST square setup
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      12-09-2017, 06:23 PM   #64
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If we call winter driving period between Dec-Mar then that's 121 days, so 95% of that is 115 days in dry pavement. Where in Canada does it rain/snow only 6 days out of 121? Not here in the GTA, not even close.

My 2 cents is wet traction for the F8x is already not great, put a dust cover of snow or ice on top and it gets even worse. Even if you decide to not to drive when it snows, there's no guarantee you won't run into unexpected snow squalls. There can also be unexpected ice on dry pavement.

Winter driving to me is almost purely defensive even on the best of days. No one should be racing or driving aggressive/fast. IMHO, winter performance tires is a compromise not unlike all seasons for summers. The only place where I can see where winter performance tires fitting in Canada is Vancouver where it hardly snows and the softer rubber of winter tires gives you better traction in sub-zero temperature.

For other places in Canada, particular for the F8x, I think you go for the best snow/ice traction tires you can find and that means getting proper snow/ice tires. It's your best insurance against an accident. We've been lucky here in Toronto the past 2 winters where we've had relatively fewer snow. But they're predicting worse than average and what worked the past 2 winters may not be so fine this winter.

I couldn't agree more. Especially with this statement:

"Winter driving to me is almost purely defensive even on the best of days. No one should be racing or driving aggressive/fast. "

I will take it a step further by stating that I live in Vancouver, and last year ended up being stuck not once, but twice with a M3 that had Blizzaks.

Perhaps the difference in opinion on Winter tires (whether or not certain snow tires are "overkill") depends on whether or not a person has to drive their car everyday? Or if you have multiple vehicles, can take transit if need be, etc. then maybe it isn't such a big deal? For me, I have to drive every day, and ensuring the safest experience is paramount.
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Hi All, a bit late to the party on this one so have gone for a punt on a new set of winters by GripMax (they make off road SUV tyres normally).

They have made a set of "Performance" winter tyres that were very reasonably priced (500 euros including P&P from Germany) for a full set (2x 275/35/19, 2x 255/35/19) so I'll see how they do...

Worst case, they are awful and I chuck them back on eBay.

Best case, I recommend them all to you and don't crash my car in the snow/ice

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