GetBMWParts
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > F80 M3 / M4 Pricing, Ordering, European Delivery

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-22-2018, 07:38 PM   #1
Damage Inc
Lieutenant Colonel
Damage Inc's Avatar
790
Rep
1,925
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Nashville

iTrader: (1)

Help. Car on order, how to lock trade price?

So I'm considering a dealer allocation for an 18. Its 6 weeks out. I'm going with this dealer b/c they have put in writing $2k more than any other dealer for my trade in. Which is not chump change (to me).

Of course they will not "commit" to that amount on my trade but will re-evaluate when my car comes in.

I'm a bit of a "worrier". I am tempted to go trade my car in tomorrow so I dont have to worry about this for the next 6 weeks. Of course the deposit is refundable, so worse case I just walk.

I will be talking with the sales manager and the guy who do trades tomorrow.

The sales guy, while new, continually tells me "he'll take care of me". I think he is being honest, but not experienced thus I cannot trust him.

So... any tips or suggestions of what I can do? I'm ordering the car from them with a few extra options, thinking I'm getting the extra $$ for my car so that is a wash.

TIA
__________________
Current: 17 OG M2 / R8 Performance

Past Performance Cars: 01 M3, 05 M3, 06 M5, 08 M6, 08 M3, 11 M3, 13 M3, 15 M3, 911 C4S, 911 GTS, 17 M2,R8 V8, R8 RWS
Appreciate 0
      01-22-2018, 07:53 PM   #2
steelesm
Enlisted Member
United_States
14
Rep
38
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 YMB ZCP, 2019 911 GTS
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Chicago Metro

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MojorisinM3 View Post
So I'm considering a dealer allocation for an 18. Its 6 weeks out. I'm going with this dealer b/c they have put in writing $2k more than any other dealer for my trade in. Which is not chump change (to me).

Of course they will not "commit" to that amount on my trade but will re-evaluate when my car comes in.

I'm a bit of a "worrier". I am tempted to go trade my car in tomorrow so I dont have to worry about this for the next 6 weeks. Of course the deposit is refundable, so worse case I just walk.

I will be talking with the sales manager and the guy who do trades tomorrow.

The sales guy, while new, continually tells me "he'll take care of me". I think he is being honest, but not experienced thus I cannot trust him.

So... any tips or suggestions of what I can do? I'm ordering the car from them with a few extra options, thinking I'm getting the extra $$ for my car so that is a wash.

TIA
I ordered my M3 and "pre-traded" my car in early December and got a signed agreement with the trade-in value. My car is expected to arrive in a few weeks.
Appreciate 0
      01-22-2018, 08:04 PM   #3
Damage Inc
Lieutenant Colonel
Damage Inc's Avatar
790
Rep
1,925
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Nashville

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by steelesm View Post
I ordered my M3 and "pre-traded" my car in early December and got a signed agreement with the trade-in value. My car is expected to arrive in a few weeks.
I appreciate you posting.

But how exactly did you do this? Are you still driving your car around? Did they limit your miles? Or did you physically trade in the car early Dec?

I dont think I can go a month without a car... although I'm kinda considering it...
__________________
Current: 17 OG M2 / R8 Performance

Past Performance Cars: 01 M3, 05 M3, 06 M5, 08 M6, 08 M3, 11 M3, 13 M3, 15 M3, 911 C4S, 911 GTS, 17 M2,R8 V8, R8 RWS
Appreciate 0
      01-22-2018, 08:05 PM   #4
Clark_Kent
Lieutenant Colonel
Clark_Kent's Avatar
2228
Rep
1,897
Posts

Drives: Retired
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

I experienced this very situation when I traded in my 2016 for my 2018. I was told they could not "lock in" or "guarantee" a trade-in value in the future. I was provided a trade-in value for the day the vehicle was appraised and was told the value may fluctuate some when I actually traded the vehicle in. In other words, the value will almost certainly go down. I told them I was not interested in that arrangement as it opens the door for manipulation of the value. I got them to agree that the trade in value of today will be honored once I turn the vehicle in.

The agreement looked like this:

September 18, 2017 - Placed order and left deposit for vehicle, received trade-in value for vehicle that would be honored once the vehicle arrived with the understanding I would drive the vehicle and the mileage would increase at a reasonable clip.

December 9, 2017 - The vehicle arrived at the dealership and I officially traded in my then current vehicle for the new one. I believe I ended up putting ~1,800 miles on the car in that timeframe.

I say all of that to say, 'yes' you can have them lock in the trade-in value today for a vehicle you will pick up weeks later. In my experience it's a better practice to communicate the terms to which you're comfortable with instead of asking them what they can do. They will either agree to those terms or not.
Appreciate 2
5soko333.00
      01-23-2018, 06:39 AM   #5
steelesm
Enlisted Member
United_States
14
Rep
38
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 YMB ZCP, 2019 911 GTS
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Chicago Metro

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MojorisinM3 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelesm View Post
I ordered my M3 and "pre-traded" my car in early December and got a signed agreement with the trade-in value. My car is expected to arrive in a few weeks.
I appreciate you posting.

But how exactly did you do this? Are you still driving your car around? Did they limit your miles? Or did you physically trade in the car early Dec?

I dont think I can go a month without a car... although I'm kinda considering it...
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have another car that I'm able to drive while waiting for the M3.
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 06:56 AM   #6
Grant1210
Private
61
Rep
98
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 MT6 ZCP
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Philadelpia, PA

iTrader: (0)

My dealer locked in a trade value (and monthly payment) when I ordered. No restrictions. In fairness my car is a crv with 130k on it. I ordered in early December and should pick it up in mid February.
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 08:26 AM   #7
dmk08
Gone Fishin’
dmk08's Avatar
United_States
7318
Rep
12,125
Posts

Drives: Walks
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (19)

My dealer locked in trade value on my 15 and I had to wait over 4 months for my individual car to come. They tried to back-out at delivery but I threatened to walk and they ended up honoring it.
Appreciate 2
      01-23-2018, 08:34 AM   #8
Clark_Kent
Lieutenant Colonel
Clark_Kent's Avatar
2228
Rep
1,897
Posts

Drives: Retired
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmk08 View Post
My dealer locked in trade value on my 15 and I had to wait over 4 months for my individual car to come. They tried to back-out at delivery but I threatened to walk and they ended up honoring it.
Good work!

When it was time to trade in the car I was at the dealership longer than I had anticipated and I tracked down the Sales Manager to ask him what was taking so long. He stated: "The numbers on my trade in aren't working for them." I stared at him with no response and he said, "This is our problem and not for you to worry about." I agreed and let them do their thing. I believe a phone call was made to Finance telling them to recoup monies from the deal as they started to play games with the financing interest rate and tried to hard to sell warranties/tire protection.
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 08:39 AM   #9
FirstF80InSpace
///M You
FirstF80InSpace's Avatar
Canada
344
Rep
619
Posts

Drives: 2019 Porsche 718 Cayman S
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Depends on your dealer. When I ordered my F80, it took six months due to lack of allocations at the dealer. However, the dealer honoured the original agreed trade in price of my S4, even though the car probably depreciated a couple of thousand dollars since my original purchase date.
Appreciate 1
      01-23-2018, 09:17 AM   #10
5soko
Brigadier General
5soko's Avatar
333
Rep
4,632
Posts

Drives: M5
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brooklyn, NY

iTrader: (4)

Good info in here, i haven't thought about this..

I will be trading in my car aswell when i do ED this summer..

Hopefully they give me a decent trade in value and hopefully we can agree to lock in a value the day i order the car, or maybe they will take the trade that day..
__________________
Current: E63S AMG 4matic RENNtech || M5 Evolve..Eventuri || F10 LCI 535i MHD
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 10:53 AM   #11
Mr. Hankey
Christmas Poo
Mr. Hankey's Avatar
1027
Rep
1,179
Posts

Drives: Incoming G87
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: New England

iTrader: (0)

Depends on the dealer. I traded in a '15 M3 on an '18. Time from order to new car arriving was 2 months. Options were to trade the car in at the time of ordering for guaranteed trade in price, or drive it for 2 months with a mileage limit of 1000 miles and they dropped the trade in price by $1000 but still guaranteed it with signed agreement. So I drove my car for 2 more months and took a $1000 hit on the trade, and got 998 of my 1000 miles out of it. That was not hard to negotiate since they were the ones who offered. Seemed perfectly fair to me.

In the meantime various folks at the dealership were driving my car until it got onto their website inventory and based on my BMW connect app they put about another 800 miles on it.
__________________

Read...no drive, the manual.
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 11:03 AM   #12
Habber
Colonel
Habber's Avatar
Canada
3515
Rep
2,005
Posts

Drives: BMW M3 2024 Brooklyn Grey SOLD
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Canada

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
  [9.83]
My sales rep told me he can keep price for 30 days on my trade and didn't give me mileage limit.
He also lied to me about options on the car too so don't trust anything not in writing. The guy can switch jobs too and then you're SOL.

Sales reps are chameleons.
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 11:03 AM   #13
GOLFFRR
GOLFFRR's Avatar
10816
Rep
27,599
Posts

Drives: GOLFFRR cart
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states

iTrader: (4)

just get your agreement in writing and go from there. Don't assume anything unless its in writing.
__________________

BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST!
Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101
vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 11:24 AM   #14
Killed by Death
Brigadier General
Killed by Death's Avatar
12452
Rep
3,527
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstF80InSpace View Post
Depends on your dealer. When I ordered my F80, it took six months due to lack of allocations at the dealer. However, the dealer honoured the original agreed trade in price of my S4, even though the car probably depreciated a couple of thousand dollars since my original purchase date.
Same here, depends on dealer. Mine put a value on my wife's Mini and never wavered or tried any BS over a 4 month wait.
Appreciate 0
      01-23-2018, 01:14 PM   #15
goneloco
First Lieutenant
goneloco's Avatar
No_Country
129
Rep
397
Posts

Drives: 2019 M4
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Rhode Island

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [0.00]
I ordered my 2015 in November 2014 for a March PCD delivery. My trade in price was locked in at the time I ordered. They said no problem driving my car until I took delivery. It ended with me getting the car in January because they didn't order the car for PCD. They offered to order another car but ended up giving me a day of M school instead.
__________________
2019 M4 Coupe MG SS DCT ZCP
2015 M4 Coupe MG SS DCT (Trade)
2009 335xi Coupe Dinan Stage 2 (Sold)
2003 M3 Coupe (Sold)
1998 M3 Sedan (RIP)
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:11 PM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST