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      07-14-2014, 12:37 AM   #23
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According to motor trend:

Jag F type Convertible:
0-60 : 3.4 second
1/4 mile: 11.6@122.0 mph
60-0: 103 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.83g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPChdZsjMxU

Jag F type Coupe:
0-60: 3.6 second
1/4 mile: 11.8 second @ 122.3 mph
60-0: 106 ft
Lateral acceleration : 0.94g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHJH3TIqRJk

Porsche 911 50th anniversary:
0-60: 3.9 second
1/4 mile: 122.2 second 115.4 mph
60-0 : 101 ft
Lateral acceleration : 1.00g

Edit: if you want to add some numbers for M5, here you go:
0-60 : 3.7 second
1/4 mile: 11.9 second @ 120.3 mph
60-0 : 110 ft
Lateral acceleration: 0.94g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VleiMvdB84s
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Not sure what's going on with these tests but the Stingray is a faster car.
I believe the automatic is. However, please contribute some data to show it. I've not been able to find anything other than individual claims of such.
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Should get a owners data thread going when we start getting 1/4 slips. I know the Stingray has gone a lot quicker in the hands of owners. I am sure the M3/M4 will as well.
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Sportauto has 2 timings for the F10 M5, the other is 1:12.9

and the M5 comp at 1:12.8
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Should get a owners data thread going when we start getting 1/4 slips. I know the Stingray has gone a lot quicker in the hands of owners. I am sure the M3/M4 will as well.
Good idea for sure, but for the sake of consistency, please keep this one based on the findings from major publications.
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Can someone explain how the m4 has a faster 0-150 mph than the corvette? The vette has more power, torque, and less weight!
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Can someone explain how the m4 has a faster 0-150 mph than the corvette? The vette has more power, torque, and less weight!
The M4 probably has better traction than the Corvette. Also, the turbo probably helps the M4 as well. And apparently DCT is faster than a manual or automatic from the Corvette. (Makes sense)
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Can someone explain how the m4 has a faster 0-150 mph than the corvette? The vette has more power, torque, and less weight!
Because the 20.9 second for M4 is reported by Autocar while 23.2 second for C7 is reported by Car and Driver
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The M4 probably has better traction than the Corvette. Also, the turbo probably helps the M4 as well. And apparently DCT is faster than a manual or automatic from the Corvette. (Makes sense)
Corvette has a little more rubber, doubt M4 gets better traction. DCT is the quickest though. Word has it the new Corvette auto-manuals are overheating for owners taking them to the track. Chevy better figure this out before they release the Z06 (I believe was going to have an auto-manual option too).
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Corvette has a little more rubber, doubt M4 gets better traction. DCT is the quickest though. Word has it the new Corvette auto-manuals are overheating for owners taking them to the track. Chevy better figure this out before they release the Z06 (I believe was going to have an auto-manual option too).
I think the z06 has a different auto than the regular version. Regardless, they need an update in the auto transmission area (as does ford). Offer a DCT and then we have a real winner.
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Corvette has a little more rubber, doubt M4 gets better traction. DCT is the quickest though. Word has it the new Corvette auto-manuals are overheating for owners taking them to the track. Chevy better figure this out before they release the Z06 (I believe was going to have an auto-manual option too).
More rubber doesn't automatically means better traction of course. If the BMW can bring the power down the road better than the 'Vette, then the M4 already has the lead, albeit little. But it's probably the DCT, indeed.
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Guys, clearly the fastest car is the GT-R by far...you can drive that car at the limit the easiest too....GTR did the Ring in 7:29!...and the GTR Nismo version has the fastest ring lap time for any production car at 7:08...with FBO's on E85 tune you can't beat Aventadors and all Ferraris all day long.

M3 is a great car for a daily driver but if you want raw speed and super car performance for weekend car as a great price, nothing touches the GTR...you can get a 12' GTR for same price as nicely loaded new M3/4.

Lastly, BMW claims 0-60 in 3.9 seconds but all the real world tests I have seen barely able to crack 5 sec's due to traction issues.
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Guys, clearly the fastest car is the GT-R by far...you can drive that car at the limit the easiest too....GTR did the Ring in 7:29!...and the GTR Nismo version has the fastest ring lap time for any production car at 7:08...with FBO's on E85 tune you can't beat Aventadors and all Ferraris all day long.

M3 is a great car for a daily driver but if you want raw speed and super car performance for weekend car as a great price, nothing touches the GTR...you can get a 12' GTR for same price as nicely loaded new M3/4.

Lastly, BMW claims 0-60 in 3.9 seconds but all the real world tests I have seen barely able to crack 5 sec's due to traction issues.
What would rectify the issue? Better tires? I thought the tires were top notch already
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Lastly, BMW claims 0-60 in 3.9 seconds but all the real world tests I have seen barely able to crack 5 sec's due to traction issues.
I love anecdotes...

How about this: I've seen real world tests posted on this forum of VBox owners running 4.2 sec 0-60 on not yet broken in vehicles.

So I've countered you, right?

Seriously, people, 0-60 is useless and the car repeatedly runs 117-119mph trap speeds and 12.0-12.2 second quarter miles. It's fast.
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Guys, clearly the fastest car is the GT-R by far...you can drive that car at the limit the easiest too....GTR did the Ring in 7:29!...and the GTR Nismo version has the fastest ring lap time for any production car at 7:08...with FBO's on E85 tune you can't beat Aventadors and all Ferraris all day long.

M3 is a great car for a daily driver but if you want raw speed and super car performance for weekend car as a great price, nothing touches the GTR...you can get a 12' GTR for same price as nicely loaded new M3/4.

Lastly, BMW claims 0-60 in 3.9 seconds but all the real world tests I have seen barely able to crack 5 sec's due to traction issues.
This real world is less than 5 second if you time it

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No doubt M3 could do 0-60 in approx 4 sec with good launch, but GTR can do it at 2.7-2.8 all day long

Not even in same zip code

5-100???...doesn't matter, GTR much faster straight line and around the track... Many prev Lambo and Ferrari owners say gtr much faster and better

But I wouldn't want gtr as a dd as it's harsh and clunky... M3 much better as dd though

New M3 ring time about the same as e92 M3 gts if it recall
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Can someone explain how the m4 has a faster 0-150 mph than the corvette? The vette has more power, torque, and less weight!
My best theory for this is that the Vette has extrodinarily high drag coefficient. With the cars power and frontal area it should top out well above 180 mph (in fact even above 195...), yet an actual test from Car and Driver found it to top out at a "mere" 181 mph, drag limited, of course. There is just no way this is the case unless the car is: significantly over rated, has some very odd and high drive train losses or a high Cd. I think the latter is the most plausible. More discsussion on this starting around posts #135-
#151 here.
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Seriously, people, 0-60 is useless and the car repeatedly runs 117-119mph trap speeds and 12.0-12.2 second quarter miles. It's fast.
I wouldn't go quite so far as to say useless. If one wants to repeatedly win stop light to stop light "drag races" 0-60 (and of course AWD and launch control) is extremely important. What you probably mean is that quarter mile times and traps (and other contests like 60-130) are better indicators of the power and overall performance level of any given vehicle.

0-60 runs are fun too...
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Lastly, BMW claims 0-60 in 3.9 seconds but all the real world tests I have seen barely able to crack 5 sec's due to traction issues.
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No doubt M3 could do 0-60 in approx 4 sec with good launch, but GTR can do it at 2.7-2.8 all day long

Not even in same zip code

5-100???...doesn't matter, GTR much faster straight line and around the track... Many prev Lambo and Ferrari owners say gtr much faster and better

But I wouldn't want gtr as a dd as it's harsh and clunky... M3 much better as dd though

New M3 ring time about the same as e92 M3 gts if it recall
Haha... I see your improvement since you doubt first and know you don't doubt lol.
GTR is faster I know, everybody knows, but what's the point? who is gonna compare BMW to GTR? GTR has 100 more horse power and is AWD! Did you know that????and as you said BMW is DD car, GTR is not
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Haha... I see your improvement since you doubt first and know you don't doubt lol.
GTR is faster I know, everybody knows, but what's the point? who is gonna compare BMW to GTR? GTR has 100 more horse power and is AWD! Did you know that????and as you said BMW is DD car, GTR is not
I guess it makes as much sense to compare the GTR to the M4 as it does to compare the 911 S or even the Vette?

M4 is a better DD than all with actual useable back seat area. Vette bests it on performance per dollar. GTR smokes it in every performance factor as it does most cars but isn't as good as a DD. The price is still better than the porsche's right (Depending on which we chose to compare today). How much is that Jag being compared?

I guess there is such a wide area to compare when you allow 2 seaters and cars that cost 50% more into the comparos. Basically anything in the realm of possibility. Must mean the M4 is a pretty darn good car if it can be compared to so many cars. It gets beaten in some areas but beats in others, doesnt look like there is another car that is better at all things the M4/M3 is and costing the same. Guess we'll have to wait for the AMG to come out and/or see if the american boys can do something nice with the CTS-V/ATS-V and perhaps even the next version of the Boss/GT500. Good time to love cars assuming your open to anything right?
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