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      06-26-2014, 01:39 PM   #23
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How is the M4, at 4.1secs, over a second quicker to 62 than the E92 M3, when the E92 did it in 4.8secs!?
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      06-26-2014, 01:41 PM   #24
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He hated that because of the people who DRIVE them (cock-o-meter, "M3 drivers have no friends", etc) -- but in a more recent episode he said that he was thrilled that the M3 was now safe to buy because all of "those people" had moved to Audi.

But he had consistently positive comments about the car itself across the episodes where he drove the E92 M3, E90 M3, and E92 M3 ZCP (though he felt ZCP itself was pointless), and he absolutely loved the 1M.
That episode has been sent to me as a link by many lately. I think in my case the reason I don't have friends is the fact that I speak. It doesn't help that no one comes for a drive with me twice.
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      06-26-2014, 01:45 PM   #26
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Wow... Talk about putting a nail in the coffin.

"BMW’s engineers have also fiddled with the induction system to create one of the best-sounding cars in ages."

Yeah! No kidding.
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      06-26-2014, 01:51 PM   #27
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How is the M4, at 4.1secs, over a second quicker to 62 than the E92 M3, when the E92 did it in 4.8secs!?
It was probably their testing. Remember this is UK top gear.
The quickest review I've heard of the E92 to 60mph was Car & Driver had it at 4.1 against the 911.

This car will probably fetch a 3.6 with some review. That's Launch Control + DCT of course.
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      06-26-2014, 01:53 PM   #28
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It was probably their testing. Remember this is UK top gear.
The quickest review I've heard of the E92 to 60mph was Car & Driver had it at 4.1 against the 911.

This car will probably fetch a 3.6 with some review. That's Launch Control + DCT of course.
Yea maybe.

Still very impressive at over half a second quicker than the old M3 though!
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      06-26-2014, 02:04 PM   #29
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Don't they like all M cars?
I think I remember them saying that the X6M was the most useless car on Earth. I think it was a JC piece on the show.
Pretty much. Too small to do anything with and there's no sense having all that power in an SUV.
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      06-26-2014, 02:04 PM   #30
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I couldn't care less about what these 2 clowns say about the M3/4.
JC seems to judge a car depending on the condition of his hemorrhoids, and RH is happy as long as his hair is in place and hydrated.
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      06-26-2014, 02:06 PM   #31
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It was probably their testing. Remember this is UK top gear.
The quickest review I've heard of the E92 to 60mph was Car & Driver had it at 4.1 against the 911.

This car will probably fetch a 3.6 with some review. That's Launch Control + DCT of course.
And remember that C&D uses a rollout still I believe..
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      06-26-2014, 02:08 PM   #32
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I couldn't care less about what these 2 clowns say about the M3/4.
JC seems to judge a car depending on the condition of his hemorrhoids, and RH is happy as long as his hair is in place and hydrated.
lmao....wait, I like JC and Top Gear. Still funny.
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I couldn't care less about what these 2 clowns say about the M3/4.
JC seems to judge a car depending on the condition of his hemorrhoids, and RH is happy as long as his hair is in place and hydrated.
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      06-26-2014, 02:31 PM   #34
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Sweet!!! I cannot wait!!! I will be so broke but who cares. No I mean really, no one cares if I go broke and my wife leaves me. The truth is that they are a pair of unique TQ powerhouses. As an owner of e30 M3 and e92 M3, the M4 would be ideal for my collection. Who knows, the New M3 could possible squeeze in as well. Thanks for publishing it and possibly ruining my life. Lmao
Lmao i hear you
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      06-26-2014, 02:52 PM   #35
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Nice....Now BMW; please, please make an M3 Touring Sportwagen....On the highways and roads here in northern Italy I am tired of seeing Mercedes CL63 AMG's and Audi S4/RS4 Sportwagen's all over the place with BMW not having an "M" vehicle in that class. Due to the success of the new M3 sedan and M4 coupé it's only right.
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      06-26-2014, 02:57 PM   #36
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Hammond is wrong about the DCT having better MPG than the 6MT, but other than that good read. I like that he said it's one of the best sounding cars in ages.
1 - I believe you.
2 - Where did you get this information, everything I have read is the opposite?
3 - I am a 6-MT 100% of the time, all the way so I really want this to be true.
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      06-26-2014, 03:00 PM   #37
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I couldn't care less about what these 2 clowns say about the M3/4.
JC seems to judge a car depending on the condition of his hemorrhoids, and RH is happy as long as his hair is in place and hydrated.
Haha this made my day
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      06-26-2014, 03:01 PM   #38
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Okay something isn't adding up then. The EPA numbers were just announced a couple weeks back and it was confirmed the MT is more efficient

MT: 17 city, 21 combined, 26 highway
DCT: 17 city, 20 combined, 23 highway
No you're just wrong. DCT is more efficient.
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      06-26-2014, 03:07 PM   #39
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I couldn't care less about what these 2 clowns say about the M3/4.
JC seems to judge a car depending on the condition of his hemorrhoids, and RH is happy as long as his hair is in place and hydrated.
+1
Lol

I am pretty sure they never even set foot within 50m of these cars anyway
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      06-26-2014, 03:09 PM   #40
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It was probably their testing. Remember this is UK top gear.
The quickest review I've heard of the E92 to 60mph was Car & Driver had it at 4.1 against the 911.

This car will probably fetch a 3.6 with some review. That's Launch Control + DCT of course.

Nothing funnier than sitting next to someone at a light and they go into launch control while waiting for the green(gee guess he wants a run). I use to get this all the time from Subaru race boys. ...When they would get a look at my Dinan blk tip exhaust. To bad they didn't realize I had stage 3 sw under the hood.

Not a fan of LC but it seems to be the only way BMW is going to break into exotic 0-60 times. Unfortunately I'm not getting it my MT option choice but I suspect I can do just as good with just dumping the clutch and I won't sound like a duche doing it.
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Hehehe, LC reminds me of racing Caprice Classics in college. Stand on brake, stand on gas. Squeal rock hard radial tires for .2 seconds and take off at a sedate pace.
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      06-26-2014, 03:16 PM   #42
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Richard Hammond reviews the M4: http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/mo...anages-3725985

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BMW's M4 is so good it even manages to justify its 56k price tag

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By Richard Hammond


They’re filming a new Star Wars epic I wouldn’t have heard about had a door not fallen on Harrison Ford’s ankle and broken it.

Get well soon, Mr Ford, and may the force be with you.

If you like sci-fi, a new Star Wars film is as exciting as it gets and if you like fast cars, a new BMW M3 is also big on the fever-o-meter.

And so it is here at last, the latest super-hot Three Series. We’ve been through it before but just to remind you, the M3 is the four-door saloon version and the M4 is the coupe.

BMW reckons the M4 will outsell the four-door version by five to one so although we’ve driven both versions, we’ll concentrate on the M4.

That said, there’s so little difference between them that you can assume you’re reading about the M3 as well.

First we must lift the bonnet – if it isn’t right under here then it isn’t a proper M car. The previous-generation M3, which BMW insiders and anoraks refer to as the E92, was powered by a 4.0-litre V8 engine with 421bhp.

Now V8s are great and have a gorgeous sound, but there’s a school of thought that says a high-performance BMW should really have a straight-six engine under the lid.

The new one has. It’s a 2,979cc motor with a pair of turbochargers and a power output of 431bhp. Only 10bhp more than the old V8 but that isn’t the full picture because this new motor has a massive 406lb ft of torque against the V8’s 295lb ft.

That, and the fact the M4 is 80kg lighter than the old car, means it does 0-62mph in 4.1sec. In other words, just over a second faster than the old car. There’s a six-speed manual gearbox or seven-speed dual clutch auto. Most punters will go for the latter so that’s what we’re driving. The car is quicker with this gearbox, you get launch control and better fuel economy.

All UK M3s and 4s come standard with BMW’s M adaptive damper control – you can switch between Comfort, Sport and Sport+ modes with the last of those the setting for superior racetrack enjoyment. Those same choices also change the electric power steering’s sensitivity, weight and speed and also adjust the exhaust note. Ah, the zorst.

A couple of flaps at the back of the system open to increase the volume of the music and BMW’s engineers have also fiddled with the induction system to create one of the best-sounding cars in ages.

The first thing new owners need to do is get the atlas out and find some long tunnels in which to hear the full effect.

In a world in which 431bhp doesn’t sound much, the M4 is truly quick. The engine produces an enormous amount of thrust that never tails away. There’s no surge of power as you get over 5,000rpm. The engine simply pulls all the way from about 1,800rpm. Your licence will always be in danger.

Both the M3 and M4 look the part. Both have CFRP (carbon-reinforced plastic) roofs to save weight and feature M-trademarks such as bulging wheel arches and what BMW calls the powerdome on the bonnet and what the rest of us would describe as a bulge.

Inside there’s a load of equipment and a few special details such as illuminated M badges in the bucket seats’ backrests.

All this for 56,650 (that’s for the M4 – the M3 is 56,190). A lot of money but then this is one of the best sports saloons in the world at any price – and considerably better than its predecessor.
Let me know when you see one for 56k lol my ass
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