F8X M3/M4 Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

MPoweRo · 04-30-2018, 06:14 AM

5mm all round

slaughter.mode · 04-30-2018, 12:02 PM

Hi,

Just lowered my 2018 M4 ZCP on the M Performance HAS kit (set to BMW recommended setting for the 20" 666M wheels).

I live in SF, I have people in my car regularly, I do plan to go with 275/295 (F/R) tires at next change so wondering what the wisest setup would be? Some say 12/15, some say 15/12, some 12/12, and some 10/10.

Anyone have any advice? I've dug through about 20 pages of this thread and not finding a ton for the 666M + BMW MP HAS kit.

kevin @ eas · 04-30-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by goaty

Hi,

Just lowered my 2018 M4 ZCP on the M Performance HAS kit (set to BMW recommended setting for the 20" 666M wheels).

I live in SF, I have people in my car regularly, I do plan to go with 275/295 (F/R) tires at next change so wondering what the wisest setup would be? Some say 12/15, some say 15/12, some 12/12, and some 10/10.

Anyone have any advice? I've dug through about 20 pages of this thread and not finding a ton for the 666M + BMW MP HAS kit.

Havent done the 666M wheels yet in a +1 tire configuration before. I would say 10mm all around would be good but there are other variances like tire brands as well to account for.

slaughter.mode · 04-30-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

Havent done the 666M wheels yet in a +1 tire configuration before. I would say 10mm all around would be good but there are other variances like tire brands as well to account for.

Thanks Kevin, just shot you an e-mail, interested in making a purchase.

SocalBM · 05-03-2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

Non Comp I would recommend a 15mm front and 12mm rear. I would recommend the Macht Schnell springs to pair with the spacers. OE like ride quality and not too aggressive of a drop. Attached is a picture of that combo.

Doesn't the website blog show this car as having 12mm/10mm?

kevin @ eas · 05-03-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SocalBM

Doesn't the website blog show this car as having 12mm/10mm?

I Stand corrected they are 15mm all around on that car.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/europe...h/24272749908/

CK23 · 05-03-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

https://www.flickr.com/photos/europe...57680686032055

So this car is 12mm front, 10mm rear on stock suspension, right?

kevin @ eas · 05-04-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CK23

So this car is 12mm front, 10mm rear on stock suspension, right?

Correct, that car definitely looks like stock suspension. That car used 12mm front and 10mm rear.

CK23 · 05-04-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

Correct, that car definitely looks like stock suspension. That car used 12mm front and 10mm rear.

Thanks, looks perfect IMHO. My only concern is rocks being thrown up on the side with 12mm vs. 10mm. Have you heard of any customers complain of this?

Robby29 · 06-13-2018, 11:41 PM

Hey Kevin I just got the 666m paired with ps4s stock size.

Planning on kw has and spacers. I read the ps4s are a bit wider than the pss stock size. What spacer size do you recommend to be flush and not rub with kw has?

supaswol · 07-05-2018, 01:19 PM

Got the 12mm/10mm MS spacers from Kevin and I love the results with the Emmotion Springs. Thanks kevin

Emmotion springs (1.3F & .3R) drop with MS spacers (12mm F & 10mm R).

Sliksunny · 07-30-2018, 08:28 PM

About to trade my 437 wheels for 666 wheels. I am on stock suspension not ZCP suspension.

I am currently running 15f 12r ms spacers on 437 wheels.

I am confused in this thread if it will rub or not if I kept the same spacers or should I go down to 12f 10r.

I like to keep the same spacers if possible.

shay2nak · 07-31-2018, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliksunny

About to trade my 437 wheels for 666 wheels. I am on stock suspension not ZCP suspension.

I am currently running 15f 12r ms spacers on 437 wheels.

I am confused in this thread if it will rub or not if I kept the same spacers or should I go down to 12f 10r.

I like to keep the same spacers if possible.

I'm on stock height 12f/10r on 666s. I wouldn't go more than 12 on the front... actually I'd do 10mm. The 12 mm has a slight poke. That's mostly due to the sidewall of the tire, though.

tom @ eas · 07-31-2018, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliksunny

About to trade my 437 wheels for 666 wheels. I am on stock suspension not ZCP suspension.

I am currently running 15f 12r ms spacers on 437 wheels.

I am confused in this thread if it will rub or not if I kept the same spacers or should I go down to 12f 10r.

I like to keep the same spacers if possible.

You should be running 12/10 on ZCP wheels. You can keep the 12s you have and order a set of 10s.

PLZ_M3 · 08-02-2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Year/model BMW
2015 M3

Wheels/offset
Front: (ie: 19 x 9.0 Style 437M, ET29)
Rear: (ie: 19 x 10.0 Style 437M, ET40)

Tire size
Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19

Suspension
Adaptive M Suspension, Stock springs

Spacer size
Front: 12mm
Rear: 15mm

Notes
Opted to replace extended wheel lugs (included) with 90mm Macht Schnell Competition Studs since vehicle will be used on track (frequent wheel changes). Vehicle has optional Carbon Ceramic Brakes, which does not have any variances from non-equipped F8X models in terms of fitment.

F80 M3 Macht Schnell Spacer & Stud (new stance)

Tom, will the 75mm stud length work with an F80 w/ 666m rims w/ 15mm spacers all around? or would you recommend the 90mm studs? and is this the 14mm thread pitch?

kevin @ eas · 08-02-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pzranchev

Tom, will the 75mm stud length work with an F80 w/ 666m rims w/ 15mm spacers all around? or would you recommend the 90mm studs? and is this the 14mm thread pitch?

15mm will require a 90mm stud. 75mm stud will work with anything 12mm or below. The thread pattern would be 14x1.25mm.

F80Moe · 08-03-2018, 02:07 PM

KW HAS (3/4 down)

15mm front spacer

19 X 9 ET29 - 275/30/19 Fronts

12mm rear spacer

19 X 10 ET32 - 295/30/19 rears

tom @ eas · 08-03-2018, 05:29 PM

Looks fantastic! Thanks for sharing!

tkblingx2 · 08-15-2018, 02:00 AM

Would 12/10 also be good for my HRE summer setup?
2016 M4 non-zcp stock suspension
Front: 20x9 et 25 265/30/20
Rear: 20x10 et 40 285/30/20

If possible it would be nice to keep the same spacers on for my winter setup with 437m so if there’s a better middle ground for the two that would be best.

kevin @ eas · 08-15-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tkblingx2

Would 12/10 also be good for my HRE summer setup?
2016 M4 non-zcp stock suspension
Front: 20x9 et 25 265/30/20
Rear: 20x10 et 40 285/30/20

If possible it would be nice to keep the same spacers on for my winter setup with 437m so if there’s a better middle ground for the two that would be best.

The HRE FF01 fitments run kind of weak so you can definitely use a spacer. What brand of tires? 12/10 sounds right in terms of fitment. With that fitment you can run them dual purpose with your 437m wheels.

tkblingx2 · 08-16-2018, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

The HRE FF01 fitments run kind of weak so you can definitely use a spacer. What brand of tires? 12/10 sounds right in terms of fitment. With that fitment you can run them dual purpose with your 437m wheels.

Running Michelin PS4S’s with the HREs. Do the spacers come with accompanying longer studs or is that something I have to find separately? First time considering running spacers so sorry for the noob questions!

tgmk_noppy · 08-16-2018, 09:42 AM

Hi, I am looking to run spacers on my 17' F80 with ZCP wheels, can you please PM me a price shipped to 03063 for 12f and 15r.

Thanks!

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