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      11-03-2017, 08:18 AM   #89
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I've got a rental chevy camaro SS convert at the moment. Really makes you appreciate our cars. There's so much good about the camaro, but it doesn't come together as a driving experience. The engine is AMAZING.....but stifled by connecting it to a crappy auto trans and a poor throttle control. The chassis is surreal for a convertible, but sapped by carrying so much weight.

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Going to try to test drive an rs3 tomorrow.
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The A8 is actually quite nice when you row your own gears... The downshifts are a bit sluggish, though.
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      11-03-2017, 12:21 PM   #91
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Corvette Grand Sport:
Corvette is a front mid engine RWD (FMR) car, like the Ferrari Superfast 812, or the AMG GT R , or the S2000, vs Front engined RWD (FR) like the 3 series, and the A3 (Front engine AWD, or front wheel drive)
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Corvette is a front mid engine RWD (FMR) car, like the Ferrari Superfast 812, or the AMG GT R , or the S2000, vs Front engined RWD (FR) like the 3 series, and the A3 (Front engine AWD, or front wheel drive)
You're pushing the semantics here.

By the pure definition, the center of gravity of the engine needs to be located between the two axles to be considered a "mid-engine", so the 3/4-series is a front-mid engine car too. The RS3 however, is not.

The fact that the Corvette has a rear mounted transaxle transmission helps shift the weight towards the rear.
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      11-03-2017, 05:03 PM   #93
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You're pushing the semantics here.

By the pure definition, the center of gravity of the engine needs to be located between the two axles to be considered a "mid-engine", so the 3/4-series is a front-mid engine car too. The RS3 however, is not.

The fact that the Corvette has a rear mounted transaxle transmission helps shift the weight towards the rear.
I said 50/50 is ideal for front engine car, your reply was a corvette gs-

49.3/50.7. Seriously, what is that 35 lbs in favor of the rear?

Who's really the one splitting hairs here?
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your reply was a corvette gs-

Who's really the one splitting hairs here?
Since the c7gs was brought up, I'd love to see a lap times match up between c7gs with its z07 package and the rs3 on comparable streetable r tires and m4 cs

Not just to get lap times but to see which ones do/don't overheat (and which parts) and how hard they are on consumables.

I really appreciate all of your beta testing these cars so later adopters like me can make better choices
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Since the c7gs was brought up, I'd love to see a lap times match up between c7gs with its z07 package and the rs3 on comparable streetable r tires and m4 cs

Not just to get lap times but to see which ones do/don't overheat (and which parts) and how hard they are on consumables.

I really appreciate all of your beta testing these cars so later adopters like me can make better choices
c7gs with z07 package would destroy rs3 on track. I'm sure it would beat M4 CS as well.

Edit: C7GS is already 2 seconds faster than M4 GTS around Laguna Seca (MotorTrend test by Randy Pobst, C7GS time vs M4 GTS time).

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You should not buy it because Haldex. It's a fwd car.

Call me a purist, but if it doesn't have a longitudinally mounted engine (and it isn't a Muria) then it just isn't going to feel right.

That's a lot of wood for a Golf with lipstick.
And isn't an nsx....that senna enjoyed....yep I guess he wasn't as much a purist as you.
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      11-18-2017, 12:56 PM   #97
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You should not buy it because Haldex. It's a fwd car.

Call me a purist, but if it doesn't have a longitudinally mounted engine (and it isn't a Muria) then it just isn't going to feel right.

That's a lot of wood for a Golf with lipstick.
And isn't an nsx....that senna enjoyed....yep I guess he wasn't as much a purist as you.
Well, a Muria and an NSX are the same format.

An RS3 is no NSX, and an NSX isn't Haldex.
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We have an RS3 on order to replace our aging 2006 B7 S4. My wife passed on the B8 S4 as she felt it was less sporty and less "upscale" than her B7 when she went to test drive one a few years ago. She decided to hold onto her B7. When going to shop for a B9 S4 at the end of the summer, we saw the RS3 in the dealer showroom. We connected to it right away. Dimensionally and from a driving spirit point of view, the RS3 is much closer to the B7 S4 than the B9 S4 is. The RS3 is amazingly fast from launch and has great all weather capability. It also feels very nimble and agile at street legal speeds. The virtual cockpit is amazing too. And that sound from the I-5 is truly

The drawback to the RS3 is that it is less luxuriously appointed, one feels the "low-end" origin of the A3 / Golf platform. I also suspect it will not be as adept around a race track compared to the M3/4 and it does not have the top-end pull that the S55 does.

But I figure having the M4 and RS3 in the driveway will be a great complementary pair .
this is all subjective of course, but I thought the S4 was much more planted feeling than my S3 and had more linear power delivery. Also I was able to sit a bit lower in the S4 which made it feel sportier. The new interior is really nice on both cars, but yes you can tell the roots or the 3 are from the lower model lineup... still plenty nice.

I would be interested to try the RS3 and see how it feels bc based on looks, it's much much better to look at than the S4 and overall a more special package. the increased space for me is a selling point since I have munchkins who occasionally like to take a break from being chauffeured around in the SUV.

Ultimately though, I want to get the M3 back which is my CLEAR winner between the two unless all wheel drive would be needed or at least very helpful for winter driving.
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I drove an RS3 yesterday evening the 367hp model with down pipes and a map so around 430-450hp, bloody hell the launch control was brutal, it really shocked me the way it exploded off the line.

I found it to be an absolute riot to drive, very impressive, sounded really rude as well!
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      12-26-2017, 09:28 AM   #100
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Are there any reasons not to get this car?

Any big reliability concerns or what not?

I've been looking into the M3 and the RS3 and I love the Audi interior... it's hard to pass up.

And it's *quick*.
I own a Golf R and was looking to replace it. Drove 2 different RS3 versions and two different M3 versions. Before test driving, I was very sure I would buy the Audi. I like to drag race, and as some have already noted, a simple firmware tune makes it a rocket (mid 11 second quarter miles). Though I liked the Virtual Cockpit and the engine sound, I was disappointed by the lack of power seats, the lack of Homelink and the very tight interior. I was also put off the the price, nearly $70K to get 'the works'. I also drove two C63 versions. Loved the engine sound and creature comforts, but found the ride harsher than the M, the tranny too jerky and the price too high. In the end I chose the M3. More spacious, more luxurious and better looking inside and out (my opinion) than the Audi, and a better drive than the AMG. It will be harder to launch at the strip than the Golf or Audi, but hopefully still fast and rewarding. If not, it's still one of the most amazing daily drivers on the planet.
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Not an rs3 but my friend just picked up this nardo gray TTRS. It sounds great and is damn quick off the line.
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I bet that's a hoot!
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      12-27-2017, 09:57 PM   #103
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After shopping for a new car and test driving the new models here is the short of it

2018 Audi RS3- Looks like a toy. sounds great

2018 Audi TT-RS- Mehh for 70k+. sounds great

2018 Mercedes Benz C63S Coupe- It was a maybe but just couldn't do it.

At the end of the day I ended up with another new 2018 M3. It's embarrassing to say that this is my 3rd F80 and 5th M3.
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Great color and the right choice among those you tested.............. (perhaps the C63 would suffice) but good lord I hate hate hate those wheels. Look like they were designed by Pep Boys. I would have to immediately switch them out.
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My wife took delivery of her RS3 today. This is one nifty little beast .

Initial impressions and pics to be posted shortly.
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My wife took delivery of her RS3 today. This is one nifty little beast .

Initial impressions and pics to be posted shortly.
Looking forward to it!!

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My wife took delivery of her RS3 today. This is one nifty little beast .

Initial impressions and pics to be posted shortly.
About time! Glad you are past that port hold fiasco.
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I was also looking at the RS3 before pulling M trigger... one thing that was hard to get over, is it really is a wolf in A3 clothes...and IMO the A3 looks like a toy car- not my style.
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If you are looking to lease, then the RS3 is not the car to get. Tossed around some numbers with the dealer last week and it was going to cost me ~400 more per month than my F80.
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Initial impressions and pics to be posted shortly.


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