Clear Bra Couldn't Stop This!

Wingman335 · 01-20-2018, 10:21 AM

I have my entire front end covered in paint protection film from Xpel (Ultimate).

But it appears that nothing could stop the rock that flew right at my hood and went straight through the clear bra and messed up my paint.

I went to the installer, but he wants 500 bucks to re-do the hood. I don't know if I want to spend that money right away, so I'm looking to you guys for some suggestions.

Should I cut out the ripped up flap of the clear bra and then fill up with touch up paint? Anything else I can do to make this less noticable? Thanks!

Jaymax85 · 01-20-2018, 10:23 AM

thats annoying
id do it again
500 seems like a lot for a full hood

Wingman335 · 01-20-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HELLOimJ

thats annoying
id do it again
500 seems like a lot for a full hood

I know! I would hate if this happens again right after I spend 500 bucks.... so I'll probably replace it after a year or so.

In the meantime, any ideas to make this look less noticeable?

shockin330i · 01-20-2018, 10:51 AM

Gotta love the heavy gravel/rocks down here in Texas....

KevinM · 01-20-2018, 12:03 PM

If the $500 includes professional touch up of the scratches as well as new PPF, I'd do that. Professional touch up is not cheap but invariably (if done by a skilled shop) better than most home jobs. It takes an amazing amount of time and patience to professionally touch up paint.

Barring that your best bet is to carefully trim away the loose Xpel and touch up the paint yourself.

GL!

Wingman335 · 01-20-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinM

If the $500 includes professional touch up of the scratches as well as new PPF, I'd do that. Professional touch up is not cheap but invariably (if done by a skilled shop) better than most home jobs. It takes an amazing amount of time and patience to professionally touch up paint.

Barring that your best bet is to carefully trim away the loose Xpel and touch up the paint yourself.

GL!

Nope, $500 is only for removal and application of a new one. I need to get it touched up for additional $250. Its too much for this.

I'm planning to touch it up myself somehow- so looking for advice.

guess2098 · 01-20-2018, 12:43 PM

If without the clear bra, you probably need a new hood if it dent so bad. I will do it right away. Just 500 save you a new hood if you think that way. It's remove, clean, and install. 500 is ok price

M4 GTS. · 01-20-2018, 06:23 PM

i say let it get worse, some more hits then change it later. not worth it for one chip imo

KevinM · 01-20-2018, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingman335

Nope, $500 is only for removal and application of a new one. I need to get it touched up for additional $250. Its too much for this.

I'm planning to touch it up myself somehow- so looking for advice.

Well, the only thing you can do is remove the loose Xpel as best you can (that might be difficult - perhaps use a scalpel and tweezers) and touch up the paint with OE paint. You can use the BMW's paint stick or try to order a paint pen, which is a bit easier to use. You might also check out Langka - it's pretty easy to use: http://www.langka.com

aboulfad · 01-20-2018, 07:35 PM

Sorry. If your base coat was scratched and your primer layer is showing, Clean it well and seal it w some clear coat/colour coat to prevent any contaminants from potentially causing more damage and forget about it... the first one hurts, then u re like it's a car, move on... touch up is very hard, requires lots of skill and patience.

JonnyM3 · 01-20-2018, 11:45 PM

https://www.autogeek.net/dr-colorchi...ip-repair.html

titan7 · 01-22-2018, 03:03 PM

Ouch that sucks, well at least the PPF prevented what may have been multiple scratches to the metal. I would touch it up and see how it looked, if bad, I would redo the hood.

Sorry, that terrible, but it does happen

Bruce_SC · 01-23-2018, 06:30 AM

$500 is about the norm. I would go ahead and get it taken care of. It can happen again. There is nothing that can stop a high speed impact from a larger piece or debris.

Bruce

Eric S · 01-23-2018, 12:19 PM

I would trim away the lifting area of film
apply touch up to the areas in a few tiny layers
then apply clear coat to fill the gap of the clear bra in two thin layers.

you are basically using color and clear to not make it an eyesore, and creating a "bandaid fix" if you will, to get you over until you are ready for a new hood.

We have done this quite a few times with great success.

Hoods are $500 to 650 for film alone.
There was a shop close to us who was doing them for $300...stretch marks all over the film, in the flats and in complicated areas. You don't want that.

If you are near Houston, contact www.vive-houston.com/

AIRHEIR · 01-23-2018, 12:42 PM

Possible to get it covered under xpel warranty? self repairing that they advertise, etc. Just a thought

Aaaaaaaaa · 01-23-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AIRHEIR

Possible to get it covered under xpel warranty? self repairing that they advertise, etc. Just a thought

Warranty doesn't cover accidental damage. Self repairing is only for light surface scratches

Sassicaia · 01-23-2018, 01:19 PM

Since you will never get to a point where it "couldnt have the next day" I would just bite the bullet now to get it fully replaced and repaired including the paint.

Need4Speed_Motorsports · 01-23-2018, 01:28 PM

AMMO NYC has a few videos on paint touch up. If you're going to do the touch up job yourself It'd be worth a look. Here's a link to his channel

Wingman335 · 01-24-2018, 12:05 AM

Thanks for the replies, guys! I am not going to get the hood re-clear bra'ed. With my luck, right after the new film goes on, I'll have a chip like this yet again the next day.

My plan is to trim the loose portion of the film, clean up the ding, and apply touch up paint to make it less noticeable. After the film is shot in a few years, I might get it reapplied then, but until then I'll hold on to the current one. I'll update once I get it done.

Any advice on where I can find reasonably priced touch up paint? My dealer wants $42 bucks for Sakhir Orange II....

Eric S · 01-24-2018, 08:45 AM

just get it from the dealership. If you go to a body shop, it might be off even more. Unless you have a really good bodyshop who mixes paint very well.

Most bodyshops aren't going to want to mix a small amount for much less than the $40. It takes time to mix, look up the formula, give you the bottle, etc. Plus they need to add hardener to the paint mix, so it will only be good for about 2-4 hours after mix.

Wingman335 · 01-24-2018, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric S

just get it from the dealership. If you go to a body shop, it might be off even more. Unless you have a really good bodyshop who mixes paint very well.

Most bodyshops aren't going to want to mix a small amount for much less than the $40. It takes time to mix, look up the formula, give you the bottle, etc. Plus they need to add hardener to the paint mix, so it will only be good for about 2-4 hours after mix.

Well, my dealership got back saying that they don't have C1H (Sakhir Orange II).... apparently BMW doesn't make a touch up kit for this paint.

So I'll have to get it from a 3rd party paint mixer.

Eric S · 01-27-2018, 10:10 AM

wow, I went to crevier and they had it a while back.

In this case, you need to go to a quality bodyshop and have them mix it. Just be prepared to go back for a new mix, and pay a premium for it just in case. They cant just mix a few drops, they need to mix a decent amount to get the colors right.

Good luck

01-20-2018, 10:21 AM	#1
Wingman335 Lieutenant 52 Rep 423 Posts Drives: 2011 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Clear Bra Couldn't Stop This! I have my entire front end covered in paint protection film from Xpel (Ultimate). But it appears that nothing could stop the rock that flew right at my hood and went straight through the clear bra and messed up my paint. I went to the installer, but he wants 500 bucks to re-do the hood. I don't know if I want to spend that money right away, so I'm looking to you guys for some suggestions. Should I cut out the ripped up flap of the clear bra and then fill up with touch up paint? Anything else I can do to make this less noticable? Thanks!
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Jaymax85 Addicted to Speed. 711 Rep 2,375 Posts Drives: m3 zcp, macan GTS, f15 x5 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: 'Murica iTrader: (5)	thats annoying id do it again 500 seems like a lot for a full hood __________________ 2017 991.2s 2015 F15 35i 2017 Macan gts
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guess2098 Major 516 Rep 1,247 Posts Drives: 2022 Taycan GTS, 2018 M4, 2016 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rowland Heights, CA iTrader: (5)	If without the clear bra, you probably need a new hood if it dent so bad. I will do it right away. Just 500 save you a new hood if you think that way. It's remove, clean, and install. 500 is ok price
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M4 GTS. GTS 8 Rep 24 Posts Drives: M4 GTS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	i say let it get worse, some more hits then change it later. not worth it for one chip imo
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titan7 Private First Class 39 Rep 149 Posts Drives: X3 M40 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW Peoria, AZ iTrader: (1)	Ouch that sucks, well at least the PPF prevented what may have been multiple scratches to the metal. I would touch it up and see how it looked, if bad, I would redo the hood. Sorry, that terrible, but it does happen __________________ Current Rides : 2024 X3 M40, 2021 Corolla Hybrid Past: 2008 328i, 2008 535i, 2012 135 vert, 2015 m235 vert, 2017 Porsche 911, 2018 M4 ZCP, 2021 X3 M40
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Bruce_SC Second Lieutenant 80 Rep 257 Posts Drives: Truck Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: South Carolina iTrader: (0)	$500 is about the norm. I would go ahead and get it taken care of. It can happen again. There is nothing that can stop a high speed impact from a larger piece or debris. Bruce
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Eric S Lieutenant 293 Rep 546 Posts Drives: in pre-order stages Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: orange, ca iTrader: (1)	I would trim away the lifting area of film apply touch up to the areas in a few tiny layers then apply clear coat to fill the gap of the clear bra in two thin layers. you are basically using color and clear to not make it an eyesore, and creating a "bandaid fix" if you will, to get you over until you are ready for a new hood. We have done this quite a few times with great success. Hoods are $500 to 650 for film alone. There was a shop close to us who was doing them for $300...stretch marks all over the film, in the flats and in complicated areas. You don't want that. If you are near Houston, contact www.vive-houston.com/
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AIRHEIR X3M Comp 444 Rep 718 Posts Drives: X3M Comp Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: NJ iTrader: (4)	Possible to get it covered under xpel warranty? self repairing that they advertise, etc. Just a thought
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Sassicaia Brigadier General 4453 Rep 3,308 Posts Drives: SMB F80 6MT Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Vancouver, Canada iTrader: (0)	Since you will never get to a point where it "couldnt have the next day" I would just bite the bullet now to get it fully replaced and repaired including the paint.
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Need4Speed_Motorsports 1027 Rep 24,709 Posts Drives: BMW E39 M5, F10 M5, F80 M3 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (3)	AMMO NYC has a few videos on paint touch up. If you're going to do the touch up job yourself It'd be worth a look. Here's a link to his channel
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Wingman335 Lieutenant 52 Rep 423 Posts Drives: 2011 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies, guys! I am not going to get the hood re-clear bra'ed. With my luck, right after the new film goes on, I'll have a chip like this yet again the next day. My plan is to trim the loose portion of the film, clean up the ding, and apply touch up paint to make it less noticeable. After the film is shot in a few years, I might get it reapplied then, but until then I'll hold on to the current one. I'll update once I get it done. Any advice on where I can find reasonably priced touch up paint? My dealer wants $42 bucks for Sakhir Orange II....
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Eric S Lieutenant 293 Rep 546 Posts Drives: in pre-order stages Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: orange, ca iTrader: (1)	just get it from the dealership. If you go to a body shop, it might be off even more. Unless you have a really good bodyshop who mixes paint very well. Most bodyshops aren't going to want to mix a small amount for much less than the $40. It takes time to mix, look up the formula, give you the bottle, etc. Plus they need to add hardener to the paint mix, so it will only be good for about 2-4 hours after mix.
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Eric S Lieutenant 293 Rep 546 Posts Drives: in pre-order stages Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: orange, ca iTrader: (1)	wow, I went to crevier and they had it a while back. In this case, you need to go to a quality bodyshop and have them mix it. Just be prepared to go back for a new mix, and pay a premium for it just in case. They cant just mix a few drops, they need to mix a decent amount to get the colors right. Good luck
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