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      08-29-2014, 06:44 PM   #67
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I had two e90 6mt's before and corner balanced them both on the same set of scales w/ approx 3 gallons of gas like the f80 measured for this post...my '08 e90 6mt w/ sunroof, folding rear seats, hk sound, akra evo full, 19x9.5 Advan RS square w/ 275/30 19 pss tires, stock brakes was 3615 and my '11 e90 6mt comp package, no sunroof, no folding rear seat, hd not hk sound, same exhaust, same wheels, brembo 365/345 bbl was 3450...I was shocked how much the folding rear seats and hk sound added to the car the '08 had way more sound deadening could really feel in the doors but it was quieter...pretty sure the akra exhaust and advan wheels were about 100lbs off stock e90 so you do the math...just traded in the '11 on a super heavy f80 m3 w/ dct, sunroof, hk sound, steel brakes, etc...heavy as they come...it's my DD and I have other track cars so I went for the luxury but if i was going to race this car against the clock at anything i would go for lighter options i just wanted luxury...seems to me like an f8x w/ dct is similar in weight to e9x w/ 6mt not the 175 lbs bmw suggests? will weigh the new f80 m3 heavy model asap should be about 3700?
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      08-29-2014, 06:46 PM   #68
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that is awesome to know when track day rolls around
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      08-29-2014, 07:03 PM   #69
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These heavy truck scales can be as high as 150lb off, they're designed for 40 ton trucks.
Can't speak of the OP's scale in PA.

But most truck scales are tightly regulated by the state. Weight and Measures test them every 6 months. They can only be OFF +/- 10lbs. Yes....10lbs.
Ask me how i know, i drive/work near a truck scale in South NJ Voorhees RT561.
A few weeks ago i saw the company(advance scales) re-calibrating the scale.
I spoke with the lady that runs it and told me the scale was off by 12lbs.
This is a scale that measures 100,000lbs it can only be off by 10lbs.
It had to be shut down for the day.
On another note, I have weight my cars on this scale for many years.







The above measures were with FULL tank of gas
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      08-29-2014, 07:25 PM   #70
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Equipment of Vehicle
The vehicle is a 2015 f80 m3 with no options except m-adaptive suspension. That means 18" wheels, 6 manual trans, etc.

Carbon fiber roof
I would definitely order something like this!
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      08-29-2014, 08:06 PM   #71
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I had two e90 6mt's before and corner balanced them both on the same set of scales w/ approx 3 gallons of gas like the f80 measured for this post...my '08 e90 6mt w/ sunroof, folding rear seats, hk sound, akra evo full, 19x9.5 Advan RS square w/ 275/30 19 pss tires, stock brakes was 3615 and my '11 e90 6mt comp package, no sunroof, no folding rear seat, hd not hk sound, same exhaust, same wheels, brembo 365/345 bbl was 3450...I was shocked how much the folding rear seats and hk sound added to the car the '08 had way more sound deadening could really feel in the doors but it was quieter...pretty sure the akra exhaust and advan wheels were about 100lbs off stock e90 so you do the math...just traded in the '11 on a super heavy f80 m3 w/ dct, sunroof, hk sound, steel brakes, etc...heavy as they come...it's my DD and I have other track cars so I went for the luxury but if i was going to race this car against the clock at anything i would go for lighter options i just wanted luxury...seems to me like an f8x w/ dct is similar in weight to e9x w/ 6mt not the 175 lbs bmw suggests? will weigh the new f80 m3 heavy model asap should be about 3700?
A 3450 lb E90?
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      08-29-2014, 08:17 PM   #72
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So if Joe from PA's "stripper" F80 is 3450 lbs - how the H_ll did BMW get 3300 lbs??

Ok - I don't like think of myself as a conspiracy theorist - nor am I one to doubt automakers just for the sake of doubting them.

But..............................

Joe from PA's "stripper" F80 M3 (only option EDC) was 3450 lbs on what appears to be a very accurate scale. Assuming the scale is in fact very accurate (which I have no reason to doubt), and given that all factors being equal, an F80 is supposed to be 50 lbs more than an identically equipped F82 (which would make it 3400 lbs) - how in the heck did BMW calculate 3300 lbs for a no-option Euro spec F82 (which would be 100 lbs lighter than an American spec F82 with zero options)?

I'd love to hear the answer to this...
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      08-29-2014, 08:19 PM   #73
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Approx 110lb lighter than my E90 with same fuel load when it was stock, and my car only has premium and cold weather. That's damn impressive. DCT to DCT would be closer since the f80 6mt is so much lighter, but damn. My car now weighs about 3500 with 3 gallons in it, but it has a lighter exhaust, Stoptech front brakes and lighter wheels.
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His car was low on fuel, so it really weighs 3530.

BMW appears to have stretched the truth to create buzz.

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I believe that the weight that was quoted was for an f8x that was specced identically to a stripped e9x. Meaning no nav or any of the standard options that you can't buy your f8x without. So while the car may well have weighed 3300 lbs, you cant buy it in that state.
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And let me just say this so I'm not misunderstood - I cannot wait to get my F80 M3 - I am totally excited!! I know that the way I spec'd mine out it is going to weigh 3,595 minimum (19" wheels, steel brakes, MDCT, CF roof, EDC, executive package, lighting package, HK sound, enhanced bluetooth)...

I also know that it is going to feel significantly lighter than my E93 M3 (3,595 vs. 4,140 lbs)

So in no way do I think I'm going to be disappointed with my new 3,595 lb. car... I just want to understand (from a purely curious point of view) where that 3,300 lb figure came from (I think the post above is a very plausible theory...)
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      08-29-2014, 09:35 PM   #77
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Can't speak of the OP's scale in PA.

But most truck scales are tightly regulated by the state. Weight and Measures test them every 6 months. They can only be OFF +/- 10lbs. Yes....10lbs.
Ask me how i know, i drive/work near a truck scale in South NJ Voorhees RT561.
A few weeks ago i saw the company(advance scales) re-calibrating the scale.
I spoke with the lady that runs it and told me the scale was off by 12lbs.
This is a scale that measures 100,000lbs it can only be off by 10lbs.
It had to be shut down for the day.
On another note, I have weight my cars on this scale for many years.

The above measures were with FULL tank of gas
It is interesting that they all end with a zero.
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      08-29-2014, 09:44 PM   #78
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Just to confirm this scale is a scrap yard scale. Meaning pick up trucks with 200 pounds of aluminum roll in.

The scales units were in 10 pound increments and it has a certified margin of error of 10 pounds or less.
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I believe that the weight that was quoted was for an f8x that was specced identically to a stripped e9x. Meaning no nav or any of the standard options that you can't buy your f8x without. So while the car may well have weighed 3300 lbs, you cant buy it in that state.
Can you buy it with no doors in Germany? Like a jeep wrangler
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      08-29-2014, 10:15 PM   #80
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Don't laugh. I own a 2012 wrangler. The difference in the jeep with hardtop and doors off is amazing. Weight definitely is the enemy.

I don't have the M3 anymore. I just ordered an m-sport 535dxi. Wanted bigger and more comfortable. Going to add an M4 next year. I like to give them a year or two to iron out the kinks.
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For comparison, on a similar type scale.

E90 M3 manual with compition package only.



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      08-29-2014, 10:35 PM   #82
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I believe that the weight that was quoted was for an f8x that was specced identically to a stripped e9x. Meaning no nav or any of the standard options that you can't buy your f8x without. So while the car may well have weighed 3300 lbs, you cant buy it in that state.
What I understand 1495kg is the official DIN weight of the M4. 80kg is the difference to a similarly equipped E92. Both seem to be pretty far off the truth. The car weighs more than advertised and makes more power than advertised. Doesn't matter to me. I like the F80
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      08-29-2014, 11:27 PM   #84
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3300 lbs.?

Perhaps they filled the passenger compartment with helium.
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      08-29-2014, 11:33 PM   #85
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In this years DTM Press Release, BMW said the following:

"The BMW M4 Coupé itself is a prime example of intelligent, lightweight construction. The high-performance sports car weighs just 1,497 kilograms when empty – that is a whole 80 kilograms less than its predecessor."

I still believe the ~3,300lbs is dry weight.
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For comparison, on a similar type scale.

E90 M3 manual with compition package only.
I had an '08 sedan E90 launch M3 with only SAT radio and no sunroof & no fold down seats. Just reaffirms my suspicions that this "dramatic weight reduction" with the F80 was going to end up being more hype than anything. It's still a pig, slightly bigger and ever so slightly lighter than the E9x. Good thing it has the added power but I would still prefer the same power as the outgoing M3 in a smaller/lighter package, but who wouldn't....?
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