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07-20-2012, 07:33 AM | #111 |
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Ferrari is a pure sportscar, BMW M3 is a sportscar for every day, Motorsport inspired. Not apples & oranges. But you are right, next M3/M4 will be apples and oranges. |
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07-20-2012, 07:45 AM | #113 | |
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I should have chosen a C63 AMG saloon at that time...silly me. N54/55 are great DD engines from experience. Cheers Robin |
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07-20-2012, 08:52 AM | #114 | |
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-name -design -sound -price ...but barely faster than the M3. Indeed. FI 3.0l I6 < NA 6.2l V8 Last edited by BMW269; 07-20-2012 at 08:58 AM.. |
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07-20-2012, 11:18 AM | #116 |
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Not a fan of teh noise just yet, but I do agree that the F80 looks more attractive than the F82 so far. The F82 will probably need a hint of a drop and spacers to top it off.
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I for one can't wait for the new M3/M4 to be released. I am willing to give BMW the benefit of the doubt and they have never missed the mark in the past. It will be a hit!
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07-20-2012, 04:35 PM | #118 | |
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M3 is a sports-car (road), that goes on the track as well. Don't compare M3 with Ferrari. Seriously. And if you think that FI-engines do not belong in sports-cars, think about: Nissan GT-R (racing in GT3 class against NA Ferraris, Lambo's etc) Bugatti Veyron (fastest exotic sports car money can buy) Porsche Turbo (legendary icon) Subaru Impreza (dominated rally in its era) Audi Quatro (dominated rally in its era) Also there have been many years of turbo-charged F1 championships ! So turbo is very good. BMW just need to do it right in the next M3 (like no HPFP problems). |
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07-21-2012, 12:44 AM | #120 |
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Is it just me or does this M4 sounds similar to the E36 M3?
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07-21-2012, 01:24 AM | #121 | |
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07-21-2012, 06:02 AM | #122 | |
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E82M < E46M CSL till the end of the world, unless BMW brings up a new M2 CSL powered by a FI I4. |
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07-21-2012, 06:56 AM | #124 |
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Just a bunch of 2012 M3 owners hating this new M because of the sound! It's pretty much the only flaw of downsizing the engine. We get it, you buy a car based on the engine sound, or you're just hating cuz you still have a fairly new M3 muahaha
The fact is, this car is going to drive better than your M3! M has been improving every generation and has not disappointed so far. E92 M3 sounds great but that's about the only thing going for it. |
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07-21-2012, 06:57 AM | #125 |
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07-21-2012, 10:57 AM | #126 |
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It is not completely in proportion in relation from headlights (eye-bags) to the air intakes as it was sketch in a few minutes.
But it is a fairly accurate rendition of the aerodynamics packet for the M4. Some of the details are inherited from the larger M6 , but some are new especially around the lower areas of the aerodynamics. The appearance is distinctively M. Restrained and understated until you get behind the wheel. The M4 continues the approach taken with the new generation of BMW's to make them more coherent and some of the best-looking cars on the road today. Proportions of the Coupe give it a very elegant but sport-dynamic that will extend its appeal , especially to those that pine for a 6er and cannot extend financially. Like previous Coupe models it forgoes the removal of the B-Pillar which is a key BMW Coupe feature where structural rigidity has far more importance than clean elegance. The more sporting profile also lends BMW its opportunity to forge a new niche in the mid-level segment with the 4er Gran Coupe to sit alongside the 4er Coupe and Cabrio. Again like the larger 6er Gran Coupe, the 4er Gran Coupe aims to mate the benefits of four doors with the style, pace, dynamics and efficiency of the 4er Coupe. Add further dynamic proficiency , precision and high performance for the flagship M4 Gran Coupe.
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Damn scott. That was a big big big big insight. Normally you aren't so revealing. So from your sketch we can assume the CF roof will be contoured like the M6, it will have similar front bumper design, and the mirrors reflect the m5/6 more than the fork like setup from the e36/e9x. I know all that could well change but I like that. A smaller, lighter, cheaper (because as you said I can't afford a 130k car) M6
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07-21-2012, 03:11 PM | #129 |
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If it has the same CF roof (or closely similar in design) to the M6, then, this car will be fricken amazing! Scott, is this rendition pretty close (with the exception of LEDs, CF roof)? http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696540 Seeing what BMW did with the 1M, I'm sure they will follow suit with the new M3 and M4.
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Yes we get it, NA motors are awesome, but you are not going to change the future of the auto market. So please stop whining and talking smack about FI motors.
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