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      08-28-2014, 07:34 PM   #1
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I talked to Dinan today and they are close to releasing to first tune ... possible release date as early as September 3rd any one else can confirm this? Also price around $2500 it is a piggy back system
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Anyone know if the car will still be covered under BMW warranty (possibly through Dinan)?
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Anyone know if the car will still be covered under BMW warranty (possibly through Dinan)?
Never known them not to offer matching 4yr/50K warranty, so I would assume nothing different, especially at around $2500. Others will follow, Burger, Cobb, etc, and will most likely be much cheaper but with no warranty.
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$2500 piggyback tune. LOL
No thanks, Dinan.
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This thread has been cleaned up a bit. We're not going to resort to personal attacks and name calling.

There are going to be plenty of tuning options for the M3/M4. If you're not interested in a particular brand or product, there's no need to worry what someone else is spending his/her money on.
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Never known them not to offer matching 4yr/50K warranty, so I would assume nothing different, especially at around $2500. Others will follow, Burger, Cobb, etc, and will most likely be much cheaper but with no warranty.
I hope Cobb joins the party but it's doubtful. I've talked to a couple folks over there in the last month and they mentioned they had no plans to pursue a tuning solution for the F8x. Perhaps they may take a different stance in the future but for now, they're out.
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I hope Cobb joins the party but it's doubtful. I've talked to a couple folks over there in the last month and they mentioned they had no plans to pursue a tuning solution for the F8x. Perhaps they may take a different stance in the future but for now, they're out.
Wish they would too, Cobb with the V2 really had a nice thing going with its ease and convenience of use. But the new f80 software is said to be locked down, though I have read some have been able to crack it, I won't believe it till I see it. And as I've been told Cobb won't do a piggy back like the JB4 or only even now like Dinan is coming out with. Can't say I blame them, as piggybacks work on tricking the engines DME unlike a sw flash that actually re-writes the software parameters pertaining to boost and other vital elements of engine safety. Only time will tell but again as I said above my hope is that Cobb or maybe even Giac come up with flash tunes at reasonable pricing. But unfortunately if a company like Dinan with all it's experience and know how couldn't do it, having to resort to a plug in, the chances of a sw flash might be some time away. Alpina to our rescue, maybe? But you might have to buy the entire car.
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      08-29-2014, 10:57 AM   #8
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I talked to Dinan today and they are close to releasing to first tune ... possible release date as early as September 3rd any one else can confirm this? Also price around $2500 it is a piggy back system
Did you see the recent dyno comparison an M235 owner did between the new Dinan piggyback and the BMS N55 Stage1 ($379) system?

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Did you see the recent dyno comparison an M235 owner did between the new Dinan piggyback and the BMS N55 Stage1 ($379) system?

I just read that this morning. It shows that JB4 does better than the DINAN. More torque, more power and your able to tune and make adjustments to the car vs DINAN. Its all a numbers game.
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I just read that this morning. It shows that JB4 does better than the DINAN. More torque, more power and your able to tune and make adjustments to the car vs DINAN. Its all a numbers game.
The JB4 system is in another league all together. The Stage1 system is a good comparison to Dinan though because neither can change maps, datalog, support E85, or do any of that sort of advanced stuff. Both are conservative install and enjoy setups.

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The JB4 system is in another league all together. The Stage1 system is a good comparison to Dinan though because neither can change maps, datalog, support E85, or do any of that sort of advanced stuff. Both are conservative install and enjoy setups.

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Dinan has three stages of progression; S1, S2, S3...all run on 91 octane unleaded. The last producing 408hp & 440tq. And provides a matching warranty. Expensive.

Nothing wrong with a jb4 or 3 or +, they are very inexpensive and give you maps otf and provide for e85 and meth. No warranty but excellent the for the strip.

For me I see it this way, 70 to 80 thousand dollar car, first year for the new s55, I'll take the warranty coverage behind door number 3 Alex.

Especially if you have long term ownership in mind, if on the other hand I were leasing, I too would go the cheapest route possible with a trade in mind in 3 or 4 yrs.

So, something for everybody.
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Dinan has three stages of progression; S1, S2, S3...all run on 91 octane unleaded. The last producing 408hp & 440tq. And provides a matching warranty. Expensive.

Nothing wrong with a jb4 or 3 or +, they are very inexpensive and give you maps otf and provide for e85 and meth. No warranty but excellent the for the strip.

For me I see it this way, 70 to 80 thousand dollar car, first year for the new s55, I'll take the warranty coverage behind door number 3 Alex.

Especially if you have long term ownership in mind, if on the other hand I were leasing, I too would go the cheapest route possible with a trade in mind in 3 or 4 yrs.

So, something for everybody.
I agree, something for everyone!

The Stage1 and DTRONICS N55 comparison is an interesting one though. The DTRONICS is around $2300 installed while the BMS Stage1 is around $400. The Stage1 happens to make more power but let's presume the higher DTRONICS stage matches BMS' Stage1 power output. So you're paying $1900 for some warranty.

The only thing to keep in mind is it's not a full warranty. Racing the vehicle on a track, adding any non-Dinan party, etc, will void Dinan's warranty. Still some warranty is better than none! These lower stage tunes are so conservative though I don't see either of them causing any major problems.

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So you're paying $1900 for some warranty.

The only thing to keep in mind is it's not a full warranty. Racing the vehicle on a track, adding any non-Dinan party, etc, will void Dinan's warranty. Still some warranty is better than none! These lower stage tunes are so conservative though I don't see either of them causing any major problems.

Mike

First I have to say - I don't know enough (like most here) to truly qualify the risks involved. Also - I have been using BMS tune on my N20 for the last 25K miles, with few little issues. So I am thankful for the product and mostly the price vs. performance.

However $1900 for warranty isn't bad considering the premium on service work and parts for the M's.

Maybe you think this is irrelevant but we don't know the how these cars will be in 20-50K miles. Even stock cars could have turbo or other problems we don't yet know about right? If this was a factory formula that has been out for a few years and proven to have little to no issues piling on miles in stock form I think many ppl would be more comfortable using a warranty voiding tune.

This is just my input as a potential buyer reviewing current market options. I haven't decided which way I would go but I do know after the "honeymoon" phase I will be more seriously researching this.

I wish all parties involved in creating a tune much success and hope the all sell many units so the rest of us have some real world data points.
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LOL at dinan and "close" in the same sentence


they told me the same thing along with their exhaust for the m5 last october and the exhaust alone took them another 3+ months and their piggyback only came out about a month or two ago lmao. so close for them was 6+ months

and remember the m5/m6 have been out since 2012
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LOL at dinan and "close" in the same sentence


they told me the same thing along with their exhaust for the m5 last october and the exhaust alone took them another 3+ months and their piggyback only came out about a month or two ago lmao. so close for them was 6+ months

and remember the m5/m6 have been out since 2012
Like I said in all my previous posts that got deleted. Dinan is late to the party.
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