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Non S version...Nice numbers 0 - 60 & qtr mile for this little 2L 4 banger! 4.3(4.1 roll) and 12.6, and it handles like it’s on rails. Ive read the 2.5L S version is around 3.6 0-60. The non S version is really on my radar.
Anyone looking for a low mileage 2015 F80, 20K miles, $49K. PM me.
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Stripper Non S version with PDK is $60K.
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Right... well, compared to a 5 seats/4door F80 that's same price but a different level of straightline acceleration
Or old school used car c5z (likely already prepped for "T1" competition) for much less Or newer used car c7z etc I love my p-car, but will PASS on these newer non GT cars |
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My take of what Porsche is getting out of their non S version for $60k+ is "not much". Frankly what I'm surprised by is what Porsche is getting out of their customers these days $-wise for these types of "vanilla" cars |
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A $60K - $70K BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Chevy (ZL1), or Ford (GT350) plays and looks the part. Nowadays, Porsche doesn't... Porsche has always been about "feels." Yet, they went completely against that with the 718 and put a 4 banger in it after a wonderful NA6. And on top of that increased the price (which is expected, but still...) As I have said before, the 718 is a lot better off just going fully electric as soon as possible. Last edited by csbear; 05-14-2018 at 08:01 PM.. |
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Wasn't it also a 1300lb factory racecar? The marketing association clearly worked on you
CSBear, I dont disagree. If they didn't do anything to add power the cars would be even more uncompetitive. I would be on board with a lightweight electric car as next iteration for sure |
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My wife looked and drove both the Boxster and Cayman when looking compared her M4 ZCP. The S is a must imo, it’s weird, by the numbers they are fast, but they don’t seem that fast when driving them, not a fan of the flat 4 at all. Hell that S cayman is close to 911 C2 numbers, but real world not even close in feel and overall experience. You really need to drive them first. I hate the flat 4, oh, I already said that.
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Nothing wrong with electric mind you, which Pcars are going into. Just saying, to stay true to the 718 badge, gas is more of a natural choice. Maybe 718E?
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The change to the 718 nomenclature was done so Porsche marketing could hark back to its past history, and leverage that nostalgia to save face. Of course, they had to amp up performance big time, because if they didn't, the 718 would have been a complete disaster for them in every way. The Cayman and Boxster have kept their names for a long time through various generations... why change it to the 718? Because Porsche (marketing) knew the change to the turbo flat 4 was going to really ruffle some feathers, and they needed to promote a "new car." I am not saying the 718 is a bad sports car, quite the opposite, it is a very capable machine. However, the Cayman (including the 981 GT4) was never really about 0-60 times, torque, etc. But I understand, that many value that at a higher level, and the 718 is the car for them. Anyway, I apologize to any 718 owners. It is still a great car (which BMW would never dare make), but as a former 981 (GT4) owner, I can get a little passionate about that platform at times because the Cayman is my favorite car. At the end of the day, I would love to have a 718 GTS, but with some options/tax (GTS interior, etc), we are talking about a $100,000 4 cylinder car. For me, even if it is psychological and nothing more, that would be a tough sale. Now if the new 718 GT4 is definitely a naturally aspirated 6, that's a different story. |
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I had a 2007 Cayman. Loved the handling of the car, and the sound of that six-banger just behind you. However, I realized early on that I should have gotten the S. Just didn't have the guts I had wanted, and certainly not as fast as my M4, IMHO. Very limited use car, also, with nowhere near the practicality of the M4.....but you should know that up front. Have always wanted a 911, probably never will have one. Love the way they drive, but I'll stick with the M4 since my car must also be my DD. I agree, everyone should own a Porsche once in their life. But I disagree that build quality is better in a Cayman than in my M4. 911 maybe, I can't say. YMMV.
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