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      12-13-2017, 11:01 PM   #1
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Congressman says illness is a personal failing, then gets butt cancer

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Congressman Mo Brooks (R-AL) who back in May, while politicking to get rid of the Obamacare pre-existing condition requirements made this incredible statement:

“My understanding is that (the new proposal) will allow insurance companies to require people who have higher health care costs to contribute more to the insurance pool. That helps offset all these costs, thereby reducing the cost to those people who lead good lives, they’re healthy, they’ve done the things to keep their bodies healthy. And right now, those are the people — who’ve done things the right way — that are seeing their costs skyrocketing.”

on Wednesday, Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) announced that he has prostate cancer

Well Mo, It's called "Karma" and it's pronounced HA-HA-HA-HA

Now go and enjoy your tax-payer funded Healthcare

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...eek/948142001/
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Sorry, are we supposed to be laughing at an individual getting prostate cancer?

Somehow, we’ve reached a new low.
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      12-13-2017, 11:33 PM   #3
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and his grandfather and father had prostate cancer -
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Sorry, are we supposed to be laughing at an individual getting prostate cancer?

Somehow, we’ve reached a new low.
I'm thinking more anger. Anger at a person who has made it their mission to take away from millions the very health care he will now so desperately depend on.

And amazement. Amazement at the way Karma works
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and his grandfather and father had prostate cancer -
Which makes his original comments that much more hypocritical, don't it.
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Yeah, tough to feel sorry for the guy. With a family history of cancer he clearly should be in a high risk pool, paying more to help offset the costs. Don't expect me to redistribute my personal wealth to pay for your ass cancer, buddy. That would be akin to socialized medicine which is the work of the devil, until you need it that is.
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      12-14-2017, 01:19 AM   #7
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Uncouth... Regardless of your political persuasion.

You know that karma you were talking about....
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Butt cancer, HA HA?




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Whether you like the individual or not, mocking a serious illness really is scraping the bottom of the barel.
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This thread is as bad as it gets. It should be locked and deleted. Jason , can you lock and delete this thread? Thanks.
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This thread is as bad as it gets. It should be locked and deleted. Jason , can you lock and delete this thread? Thanks.
The op didn't win points for presentation for sure and yes it suggests gloating opportunity is here for all liberals but why close a thread which shows that differences we still all agree on not kicking sick people?

If anything, we finally have a bipartisan thread in Bp pot. It only took cancer to get us this.
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This thread is as bad as it gets. It should be locked and deleted. Jason , can you lock and delete this thread? Thanks.
So let's turn the tread to a discussion over the irony of someone with a gold plated health insurance policy advocating for the removal of millions of Americans from the ranks of the insured. Chances are high that Rep. Brooks will be A-OK thanks to access to preventative care, early screening, and top notch cancer treatment. How about the millions of men who will lose their insurance when Obama Care is dismantled bit by bit? How will they fare?

I agree with Lups, the OPs presentation was sharp and my response just added fuel to the fire. Perhaps not my finest moment but it's a hot button topic that really pisses me off. I let me emotions get the better of me, though the broader topic I believe is still relevant and important.
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You folks do realize that the prostate is not part of the intestinal tract, no?

And males, if they live long enough, have an 80 percent chance of contracting prostate cancer. HA-HA-HA-HA!

As for the congressman's health coverage -- it's right up there with his pension plan on my list of least favorite things my taxes pay for.
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Prostate cancer is one of the most curable cancers if treated early. But that requires good preventive care and health care plans. The US ranks last in the world in terms of health insurance among all developed countries.
I am for cancelling all health insurance plans for both senate and congress until they fix it for good. Let them get a taste of what most of us have to go through.
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I'm thinking more anger. Anger at a person who has made it their mission to take away from millions the very health care he will now so desperately depend on.

And amazement. Amazement at the way Karma works
Stop being hyperbolic people choose to have insurance pre ACA, people choose to have it during ACA, and people will choose to have it post ACA.


Also during all three hospital will not turn you away if you have a serious medical emergency. So no one is being deny care and the whole left wing argument is built on ignorance and bs.
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Stop being hyperbolic people choose to have insurance pre ACA, people choose to have it during ACA, and people will choose to have it post ACA.


Also during all three hospital will not turn you away if you have a serious medical emergency. So no one is being deny care and the whole left wing argument is built on ignorance and bs.
well if prostate cancer being diagnosed early makes it survivable at a higher rate hence periodic check ups aren't an emergency then it seems that gives credence to the left-wing argument that not providing affordable health care for all in a mandated program is seriously problematic.
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well if prostate cancer being diagnosed early makes it survivable at a higher rate hence periodic check ups aren't an emergency then it seems that gives credence to the left-wing argument that not providing affordable health care for all in a mandated program is seriously problematic.

Once again bs
I have insurance and needed treatment for a skin disease and took it upon myself to go to a doctor not on my plan because he was the best in the profession in my general area and got the treatment I needed without my insurance covering it.

It priorities and individual have a right to choose what they consider important and what they don't.
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It priorities and individual have a right to choose what they consider important and what they don't.
Says the guy who drives a BMW. Happy for you that you have the financial resources to choose to buy insurance then go off plan to get the best care. Let us know when you have to make the choice between medical care, food, or shelter.
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Stop being hyperbolic people choose to have insurance pre ACA, people choose to have it during ACA, and people will choose to have it post ACA.


Also during all three hospital will not turn you away if you have a serious medical emergency. So no one is being deny care and the whole left wing argument is built on ignorance and bs.
A hospital will treat you for your medical emergency, that is true. The most they will do is stabilize your condition and then kick you out.

Cancer is not a medical emergency and is not treated if you show up at ER without insurance. Cancer + no health insurance = painful slow death.
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A hospital will treat you for your medical emergency, that is true. The most they will do is stabilize your condition and then kick you out.

Cancer is not a medical emergency and is not treated if you show up at ER without insurance. Cancer + no health insurance = painful slow death.
One correction: Opioids are pretty cheap, so the death will be horrible, scary but not always so painful!
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Stop being hyperbolic people choose to have insurance pre ACA, people choose to have it during ACA, and people will choose to have it post ACA.

Also during all three hospital will not turn you away if you have a serious medical emergency. So no one is being deny care and the whole left wing argument is built on ignorance and bs.
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well if prostate cancer being diagnosed early makes it survivable at a higher rate hence periodic check ups aren't an emergency then it seems that gives credence to the left-wing argument that not providing affordable health care for all in a mandated program is seriously problematic.
Exactly - Their logic is so convoluted even they can't make sense of it.

Having access to an emergency room is not the equivalent of "Health Care"

Or if this helps, it's cheaper to give someone Hepatitis C medication then it is to give them a new liver. Either way we are paying - so pick.
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Whether you like the individual or not, mocking a serious illness really is scraping the bottom of the barel.
Really, even lower then trying to take away access to health care for millions?

100% positive that when Mo's treatment is said and done the cost of the treatments will far exceed anything he or his family has paid into his insurance. This means the cost will be spread across the pool of participants, many of which don't or wont have prostate cancer.

Well dammit, that's socialism. But apparently that form of socialism is OK when it comes to him and his family.

even worse, thanks in part to Obamacare he can't get dropped by his insurance for perhaps not revealing his dad and granddad had it too (happened all the time before ACA). And his premiums wont skyrocket afterwards.

But he apparently does not think that is a benefit that should be afforded to everyone, even a single mom or dad working full time at WalMart with no insurance. No, those people made "bad" life choices and have to live (or die) by them.

You can't make this up.

But yeah, I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel
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