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I'm using a modified BM3 stage 2 that targets about 22psi with a taper. Then on the JB4 side I'm targeting 26-27psi with meth injection. 2016 F80 ZCP, stock except DP's, CP's and drop in filters. 93octane + boostjuice
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I've used 50/50 up to about 80/20 meth/water.. I could not tell a big difference. I'll test this on the dyno, 50/50 vs 100% to find out for sure. I am also ordering some cm7 nozzles as I suspect they will work better than cm5's when running 100%.
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01-13-2017, 11:44 AM | #95 | |
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Timing is a little rough on this run. Do you have any more for us to look at? Either the DME is pulling timing or the timing tables aren't smoothed properly. Being that you're probably using the BM3 canned tune as your base, I'm betting the DME is pulling timing. Timing looks like it recovers as boost starts to taper down and the engine traverses past peak VE (where it's most susceptible to knock). How are your fuel trims looking (include them in your next datalog screenshot). ? You should increase your meth to at least 80% and see how timing looks or lower peak boost a bit. Last edited by CaryTheLabelGuy; 01-13-2017 at 11:51 AM.. |
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BM3 created an interesting platform with some cool options, but from the set it and forget it standpoint, the HEX Stages are still setting the standard with power and features. It also helps that the have well over a year of reviews and mostly excellent customer feedback. |
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01-13-2017, 04:32 PM | #101 | |
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For someone like you, I'm sure you'd be using it for the ability to custom tune. That great for a limited number of people with the skill set to do so, but if you're not interested in custom tuning and don't need data-logging, there's just no other benefit than the lower price. When looking at both HEX and BM3 for just using existing Stage Level tunes, HEX dynos, timeslips, and customer reviews are top shelf. |
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It's about comparing what's currently available for customers who want turn key, ready-set-go, install and enjoy. And so far VF / HEX offers the most right out of the box, or as people like to say, "off the shelf". They have the most authentic ZCP/GTS features, best power on pump fuel, fastest stock turbo timeslips with just bolt ons (no water meth/port injection/ethanol/etc...), most Stage Level/MAP options, over a year and a half of customer reviews and feedback to rely on, and arguably some of the best customer service and community support this forum has ever seen. For the set it and forget it customer who doesn't want customization or need datalogging, it's a few hundred dollars extra for the most complete product. Cheaper doesn't mean better, and for some people paying a little more upfront is more valuable than spending your time and effort customizing it yourself or paying the difference to a 3rd party. Last edited by 1FastS4; 01-13-2017 at 07:27 PM.. |
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- most authentic GTS features - based on what? You listening to YouTube clips? - best power on pump fuel - based on what? Did you flash VF then an equivalent BM3 map same day while running your car on the dyno for both tunes? Don't forget, VF targets more boost than BM3. Different tuning strategies, but I know what I would prefer. - most stage levels - sure, if you're talking OTS maps. BM3 provides endless map options for every stage, mod level, and fuel type. I'm not disputing that VF has a great product, as does Burger, as does BM3. Each tuning solution has its merits. But your passionate championing of VF just needs to be toned down. You may not have an angle, but it sure comes across as aggressive purchase justification and sales pitching. Anyway, enjoy your tune and VF's service. I'm sure your car is quick. |
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I'm not trying to hurt anybody or any company, but what you're saying is garbage. There is a place for both VF and BM3 in this market and I hope the best for you and VF, but stop with the grandstanding in BM3's threads already. Maybe you guys should re-think your sales strategy- it looks a bit desperate. |
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I would be interested to find out of the HEX tune has solved the throttle blade closures at WOT, particularly in the 2015 and Non-ZCP cars. We all know that BM3 has resolved this horrible tuning flaw from the factory but if VF has not solved it in their tune, its going to be a far worse tune than BM3 by a long ways. This does not even consider the total lack of features it offers along with its materially higher price tag.
To each his own I guess.
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