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      08-07-2014, 02:04 PM   #23
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Interesting how he says the steering on the F80 is much better than E92 that he felt was not as connected or communicate to the driver. This is contrary to opinion with most everyone on the E9x forum opinions who love to talk about the great steering of that car. Chris seems really in love with this car and having driven this fine machine on track and street I have to agree. In the end nothing really new and about what I expected.
It's worth noting that he also owned an E92 M3.
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Most of the butthurt from a previous generation M owner goes away when he/she buys the new one or just loses the will to troll.

The E46 people whined about the E92 for a solid year. "It's too heavy, the steering sucks, looks girly, THERE'S A FAKE HOOD VENT OMG, " etc etc. Then, as befits the old, they either died naturally or were eaten by predators.
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Well he liked the E92 M3 enough to purchase it at the time. Now he states the new M3 is light years ahead. Seems like a great car much like it's predecessors, even more so.
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All those things are still true. Does one reviewer's opinion (who also said the F80 steering lacked feel) outweigh that of a slew of owners, many/most with tuned steering and many of whom are now F80 drivers?

The E46 didn't suddenly become a piece of crap when the E9X came out, it's still a great car even today. Nothing about the F8X dimishes the E9X's accomplishment's either. The sour grape conglomerate and the butthurt white knight brigade are both equally pathetic. You are all losers.

Anyway, great review from Harris, from the look on his face, he must have gone through at least three pairs of pants due to "happy accidents". Too bad the review wasn't longer. Now to swiftly cancel before the trial period expires!

I never said the E9x is crap, or obsolete, or bashed it at all. I have owned 2 of them and I loved every minute of the car.

What I am trying to say is that I am tired of hearing the same old things about why they wouldnt get a F8x M3/M4. Even though most of the reviews I read say why it is better than the E9x era. Doesnt mean the car is a sudden piece of crap!

It just means there are improvements(like with all new cars that come out)
1. Updated Modern Look(Exterior/Interior)
2. More torque
3. Lightweight
4. Better gas mpg
etc.

And yes the E9x had its accomplishments too
1. More power
2. Fascinating V8
3. Updated look(for its time)
4. Carbon roof

Either way, all M3s have its own character.
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Finally and exactly what I though he would say. He has owned many M cars and has a great insight.
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      08-07-2014, 02:22 PM   #28
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E9x guys cant get their head out of their asses cus its last v8, sounds better, hydraulic steering, blah blah blah....

Give it 1 more year. This is a just repeat of the E46 guys.
You know damn well not all of "us guys" are like that.
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I never said the E9x is crap, or obsolete, or bashed it at all. I have owned 2 of them and I loved every minute of the car.

What I am trying to say is that I am tired of hearing the same old things about why they wouldnt get a F8x M3/M4. Even though most of the reviews I read say why it is better than the E9x era. Doesnt mean the car is a sudden piece of crap!

It just means there are improvements(like with all new cars that come out)
1. Updated Modern Look(Exterior/Interior)
2. More torque
3. Lightweight
4. Better gas mpg
etc.

And yes the E9x had its accomplishments too
1. More power
2. Fascinating V8
3. Updated look(for its time)
4. Carbon roof

Either way, all M3s have its own character.
I agree I will never understand why people who can't get a new generation of car always have to be defensive and try to discredit it. e92 is not better than this car. Why would anyone buy a f80 it if it wasn't a better car?
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Harris approves. Game. Set. Match. Now everyone else shut the f*ck up.

I was going to comment, then I read this. Well done.
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Most of the butthurt from a previous generation M owner goes away when he/she buys the new one or just loses the will to troll.

The E46 people whined about the E92 for a solid year. "It's too heavy, the steering sucks, looks girly, THERE'S A FAKE HOOD VENT OMG, " etc etc. Then, as befits the old, they either died naturally or were eaten by predators.
exactly. Ill probably still pick up a E9x later. Theyre dropping like crazy

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Well he liked the E92 M3 enough to purchase it at the time. Now he states the new M3 is light years ahead. Seems like a great car much like it's predecessors, even more so.
All M3's are desired when they first come out.
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It's starting to make me want another M3... I thought E92 was awesome and I believe this is just MUCH better. Wow... gotta order one at some point.
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You know damn well not all of "us guys" are like that.

Alot of them are but Ive seen you around and I see that you really like the F8x.

Sorry if I meant it like that
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Thanks for posting! I've really been wanting to see this but not gonna pay $4 a month for a couple 10 min clips
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So while we're watching this for free it's worth noting:

Drive+ is a paid channel which is what allows them to bring us longer, better content. See:
Subscribe to Drive+ to support these guys. They make good content and I don't mind giving a few bucks to actually help them make this stuff. Sucks that this stuff gets distributed for free but I guess that's the reality of it.
the reality is if you cannot make money on the net without charging you are in the wrong business
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Thanks for posting! I've really been wanting to see this but not gonna pay $4 a month for a couple 10 min clips
You get about 3 hours of content per month. They still have free content, too.

Not directed at you, but to anyone considering it, don't be a scumbag and torrent or view their content on streams. If you like their content, support them with an extremely nominal fee. They don't have any other form of income and depend on subscriptions now that YouTube pulled the plug on their contract.
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Epic! As always.
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So while we're watching this for free it's worth noting:

Drive+ is a paid channel which is what allows them to bring us longer, better content. See:
Subscribe to Drive+ to support these guys. They make good content and I don't mind giving a few bucks to actually help them make this stuff. Sucks that this stuff gets distributed for free but I guess that's the reality of it.
the reality is if you cannot make money on the net without charging you are in the wrong business
That's ridiculous.
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Interesting how he says the steering on the F80 is much better than E92 that he felt was not as connected or communicate to the driver. This is contrary to opinion with most everyone on the E9x forum opinions who love to talk about the great steering of that car. Chris seems really in love with this car and having driven this fine machine on track and street I have to agree. In the end nothing really new and about what I expected.
I drove both and the e92 M3 really does have (much) better steering and feels more connected to the road. You don't need any special training to immediately notice this.
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Thanks for posting! I've really been wanting to see this but not gonna pay $4 a month for a couple 10 min clips
You get about 3 hours of content per month. They still have free content, too.

Not directed at you, but to anyone considering it, don't be a scumbag and torrent or view their content on streams. If you like their content, support them with an extremely nominal fee. They don't have any other form of income and depend on subscriptions now that YouTube pulled the plug on their contract.
The free content sucks donkey balls. So far it's been nothing more than a commercial for the paid content.

Maybe 3 hours of total content a month, and I'm skeptical of even that. Even so, I only watch Chris Harris on cars and he puts out one 7-15 min video every week. I know he's put out more so far on drive plus but that's because it's new and they're trying to convince people to sign up as well as the fact that they have been off for quite some time and have built up a good amount of footage.

I may be wrong but either way I don't see myself paying the $4 a month.
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how can I download this to my PC?
Just search for ClipGrab if you are on Mac OS X
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Most will buy it because it's new.
Not everyone wants an old car. E9x are not new anymore, simple.
Lots of folks out there replace their car every 2 - 3 years with something newer. I am not an exception.


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I agree I will never understand why people who can't get a new generation of car always have to be defensive and try to discredit it. e92 is not better than this car. Why would anyone buy a f80 it if it wasn't a better car?
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That can't be right. Chris Harris himself proclaimed exact opposite


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I drove both and the e92 M3 really does have (much) better steering and feels more connected to the road. You don't need any special training to immediately notice this.
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Most will buy it because it's new.
Not everyone wants an old car. E9x are not new anymore, simple.
Lots of folks out there replace their car every 2 - 3 years with something newer. I am not an exception.


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I agree I will never understand why people who can't get a new generation of car always have to be defensive and try to discredit it. e92 is not better than this car. Why would anyone buy a f80 it if it wasn't a better car?
It's faster, people are not buying just cause it's new. I wouldn't buy it if I weren't faster than the e9x.
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