BMS Stage 1 feedback on stock M3/M4 ZCP anyone?

rph_gunner · 07-12-2017, 02:50 PM

Has anyone installed the BMS Stage 1 tune on a stock m3/m4? I still have 2.5 years left on the warranty and probably won't be installing any aftermarket mods until the end of my warranty period. However, I just purchased the BMS stage 1 tune as I've read, stage 1 is very safe and it's easy to plug and unplug when going into the dealership. My question to those who've installed it on their stock ZCP vehicle, if they saw any gains and if there were any flaws? Thank you.

Brasko · 07-12-2017, 03:26 PM

Nice to see another member from PDX on here. I lived in Portland for about 10 years and moved to Tampa Bay, Florida about 4 months ago.

I would suggest doing a search for JB4 & ZCP. Came across this thread when I was looking for into. It may help you in your process. BMS Stage 1 should be pretty equivalent to JB4 Map 1.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&highlight=jb4

Tan · 07-12-2017, 06:29 PM

I do not have the BMS Stage 1, but a friend does and he said it was noticeable (without any empirical data) and did not have any issues with the tune with it in for a year.

rph_gunner · 07-13-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brasko

Nice to see another member from PDX on here. I lived in Portland for about 10 years and moved to Tampa Bay, Florida about 4 months ago.

I would suggest doing a search for JB4 & ZCP. Came across this thread when I was looking for into. It may help you in your process. BMS Stage 1 should be pretty equivalent to JB4 Map 1.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&highlight=jb4

Aha, I think I mentioned to you about taking pics of our cars together but I believe you were in the transition phase of moving to Tampa at the time.

Bahn360Photo · 07-13-2017, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rph_gunner

Has anyone installed the BMS Stage 1 tune on a stock m3/m4? I still have 2.5 years left on the warranty and probably won't be installing any aftermarket mods until the end of my warranty period. However, I just purchased the BMS stage 1 tune as I've read, stage 1 is very safe and it's easy to plug and unplug when going into the dealership. My question to those who've installed it on their stock ZCP vehicle, if they saw any gains and if there were any flaws? Thank you.

Had this in my m3, the difference is noticeable. Pulls harder up top and more consistent.
I enjoyed the extra power bump for a simple plug and play tune.

Brasko · 07-17-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rph_gunner

Aha, I think I mentioned to you about taking pics of our cars together but I believe you were in the transition phase of moving to Tampa at the time.

No doubt! I recall the conversation and recognize your forum handle. Living in Tampa now, but that doesn't mean I won't be back in Portland. I'll let you know if/when I'll be back so we can make that shoot happen.

MMMCOOKIES55 · 07-17-2017, 02:11 PM

I ran the BMS Stage one to hold me over until I got my BM3 and a custom tune but it did its job. Nothing spectacular, added a nice little bump in the mid range.

mike@x-ph.com · 07-17-2017, 07:18 PM

Definitely noticeable

hsandhu79 · 07-20-2017, 01:25 PM

I run it on my car as well, way more power, but it seems to have a little lag time which is a little noticeable at first. I went into the dealership the other week for a service and left it installed, no complaints from dealership or they didn't even notice it hahahaha... def worth the buy tho!

mike@x-ph.com · 07-20-2017, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hsandhu79

I run it on my car as well, way more power, but it seems to have a little lag time which is a little noticeable at first. I went into the dealership the other week for a service and left it installed, no complaints from dealership or they didn't even notice it hahahaha... def worth the buy tho!

Most dealerships do not complain about mods unless you are going for an issue that they think is caused by your mod

cryptz · 07-20-2017, 07:45 PM

i take mine out for every service trip, driving it to and from the dealer without it, and then installing it, makes a very noticeable difference. I havent had any issues

johnbenedict · 07-25-2017, 12:10 AM

I just bought this tune. I am wondering how it will perform.

gatorfast · 07-25-2017, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by johnbenedict

I just bought this tune. I am wondering how it will perform.

Why dont you go install it and report back

Bahn360Photo · 07-25-2017, 07:59 AM

i wouldnt risk leaving it in for dealer visits.

you just have to be good at launching the car, it does increase wheel spin if you just mash the pedal

mike@x-ph.com · 07-25-2017, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbenedict

I just bought this tune. I am wondering how it will perform.

Let us know how you like it

JesusLovesU · 06-06-2018, 10:43 PM

Update from my initial post...

Quotes are from conversation with BMS customer service

-"stage 1 wont work right on the competition package, you need jb4"

-"usually there is hesitation, rough idle with stage 1 on the competition car"

-"but if you are happy with the way your car feels you can keep it"

...To my understanding the stage 1 does work but it really is not the best choice on competition cars

AMOR · 06-07-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusLovesU

Just stage 1 does not work properly for competition models. Need to go JB4

This is wrong. In another thread I have asked someone who used BMS Stage 1 on a ZCP 6 MT and he confirmed that it runs fine. I will try it myself very soon, as I have it purchased.

Time Lord · 06-08-2018, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusLovesU

...To my understanding the stage 1 does work but it really is not the best choice on competition cars

Clearly BS and just a way to make more money. My como package runs perfect with it and faster than my buddy’s regular m3 with the stage one by a car length. On the 1/4 mile.

JesusLovesU · 06-08-2018, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Time Lord

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusLovesU

...To my understanding the stage 1 does work but it really is not the best choice on competition cars

Clearly BS and just a way to make more money. My como package runs perfect with it and faster than my buddy’s regular m3 with the stage one by a car length. On the 1/4 mile.

what other mods you running? I'm curious because I have an intake and exhaust and wonder the compatibility as well

Time Lord · 06-08-2018, 10:35 PM

I’m still under warranty so only the stage 1. Purchased from a member here for about 125$. You feel the extra hp, especially if rolling from 60.

JesusLovesU · 06-09-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Time Lord

I'm still under warranty so only the stage 1. Purchased from a member here for about 125$. You feel the extra hp, especially if rolling from 60.

that's a bargain!

Defense · 06-09-2018, 04:59 PM

I did the same with my 2018 M3 zcp. I already had the stage one on my last M4, so I plugged it up to the new M3 Comp, and it feels good. I think it's just a 4 pound increase in boost across the range from stock, so it will only enhance, but also exaggerate, the stock zcp power curve. My buddy has a stage 2 bm3 with downpipes, and he walks away from my zcp pretty easily. I still haven't taken this new zcp car to the drag strip, so I can't compare to the non zcp M4 vs the zcp M3 with the same mods in terms of 1/4 mike times yet.

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rph_gunner Young Buck 104 Rep 319 Posts Drives: '17 SMB M3 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	BMS Stage 1 feedback on stock M3/M4 ZCP anyone? Has anyone installed the BMS Stage 1 tune on a stock m3/m4? I still have 2.5 years left on the warranty and probably won't be installing any aftermarket mods until the end of my warranty period. However, I just purchased the BMS stage 1 tune as I've read, stage 1 is very safe and it's easy to plug and unplug when going into the dealership. My question to those who've installed it on their stock ZCP vehicle, if they saw any gains and if there were any flaws? Thank you. __________________ 2017 F80 M3 ZCP - San Marino Blue November 2016 European Delivery Thread: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1357859
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Tan Private First Class 40 Rep 125 Posts Drives: Dinan M4 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	I do not have the BMS Stage 1, but a friend does and he said it was noticeable (without any empirical data) and did not have any issues with the tune with it in for a year.
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JesusLovesU Private First Class 50 Rep 157 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 Volkswagen [0.00] 2013 Audi A4 [0.00] 2018 BMW M4 [0.00]	Update from my initial post... Quotes are from conversation with BMS customer service -"stage 1 wont work right on the competition package, you need jb4" -"usually there is hesitation, rough idle with stage 1 on the competition car" -"but if you are happy with the way your car feels you can keep it" ...To my understanding the stage 1 does work but it really is not the best choice on competition cars Last edited by JesusLovesU; 06-08-2018 at 02:29 PM.. Reason: corrected info
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Defense Private First Class 34 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 ZCP, 2018 X4 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas iTrader: (0)	I did the same with my 2018 M3 zcp. I already had the stage one on my last M4, so I plugged it up to the new M3 Comp, and it feels good. I think it's just a 4 pound increase in boost across the range from stock, so it will only enhance, but also exaggerate, the stock zcp power curve. My buddy has a stage 2 bm3 with downpipes, and he walks away from my zcp pretty easily. I still haven't taken this new zcp car to the drag strip, so I can't compare to the non zcp M4 vs the zcp M3 with the same mods in terms of 1/4 mike times yet.
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