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      01-17-2013, 03:53 AM   #23
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Me too I have associated the name "M3" with an icon....The M4 does not go down well. More like some other car from the Japaneese or Chineese manufacturer.
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      01-18-2013, 01:38 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by bigjae1976
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Aside from the few folks that go the supercharger route.... I challenge you to find any street-legal situation where 414HP is not "enough".
Hell, tell me that 414hp on the track is inadequate. I would really like the next M3 to go back to E46 M3 power levels with a bit more torque and weigh around 3000lbs. That would be brilliant!
//M2. Problem solved!
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      01-20-2013, 04:10 PM   #25
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I've been following the rumors for a while. The older rumors were saying "450hp+" but in the past few months BMW marketing flacks seem to have taken every possible opportunity to temper expectations and say that it will have the similar power to the current M3 with more torque and less weight.

I don't know why it would have much less than 450hp. The new I3/4/6 engine platform was supposed to deliver up to 75hp per cylinder. They are already proving that out with the 220hp 1.5L I3 going in the BMW i8 car. They should easily be able to get 450hp out of a 3.0-3.2L I6. And why wouldn't they when the Audi RS4/5 already makes 450 and the next C63 is going to make about, if not significantly more than, 500hp.
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      01-27-2013, 07:01 PM   #26
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Even if the HP isn't increased , that doesn't mean you won't see a broader torque range, and that will make a difference.
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100tq more and 300 pounds lighter. Sounds like a winner to me. You will have way more area under the curve...
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