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      05-25-2017, 02:33 PM   #45
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€169,000=$190,000

GTS is $132,000. Not exactly the same price...unless you consider $50,000+ as small change.
However, you cannot simply convert the European price in Euro to USD to get the US price. His point is that in Europe the GTS and GT4 prices are the same. Presumably the same could be true in the US, although there is certainly no guarantee of that.

That being said, who is reporting the €169,000 price for the GT4? I believe I've seen hot-hatch based factory race car offerings approach that number, so that seams to be a screaming deal if true. On the other hand, those may have been tube chassis WRC or WTC cars with completely bespoken engine/drivetrain and custom all-CFRP wide bodies, so the comparison I am drawing is probably somewhat skewed.
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That being said, who is reporting the €169,000 price for the GT4? I believe I've seen hot-hatch based factory race car offerings approach that number, so that seams to be a screaming deal if true. On the other hand, those may have been tube chassis WRC or WTC cars with completely bespoken engine/drivetrain and custom all-CFRP wide bodies, so the comparison I am drawing is probably somewhat skewed.
http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/conten...5700573177.pdf


And if memory serves me right, M3 GT4 was even cheaper...
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And if memory serves me right, M3 GT4 was even cheaper...
I guess we will have to wait and see but I would be very surprised if it comes in at less than $190,000. Looks like a lot of options in top of the base price as well.
Still pretty good for a ready to go race car with all the technology and research that comes with it...
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      05-25-2017, 05:50 PM   #49
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That email address didn't work
It did work for me when I checked it a few minutes ago. From regular PC. Prices and options are all in there.
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Damn that thing looks super aggressive! But Jesus that thing is bankkk.
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This the first time BMW has gone racing, officially, with the DCT isn't it?

I like the brake fans (assuming that's not a translation fail) as standard equipment. Real-deal endurance racing stuff there

INteresting they ditched the torque vectoring diff, maybe GT4 ruleset isn't cool with those I haven't kept track with the latest but I know Chevy is making a mullet GT4 now that comes standard with torque vectoring, and they didtched it too
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This the first time BMW has gone racing, officially, with the DCT isn't it?

I like the brake fans (assuming that's not a translation fail) as standard equipment. Real-deal endurance racing stuff there

INteresting they ditched the torque vectoring diff, maybe GT4 ruleset isn't cool with those I haven't kept track with the latest but I know Chevy is making a mullet GT4 now that comes standard with torque vectoring, and they didtched it too
Yeah, I can't see the torque vectoring stuff making it past homologation. Not to mention, the diff takes a real beating in a race car. They rarely use the road car parts there because of a lack of durability and adjustability.

The DCT thing is interesting though. I think you're right, this is a first.
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Personally, I'd buy this GT4 over GTS, would be more fun on track.
Nobody's gonna use GTS everyday, so for track use, GT4 makes more sense for the same price.
I know there are a couple of people in the DFW area that use an M4 GTS fairly regularly.. and I bet one guy uses his nearly daily.. that or his i8... so.. don't stereotype all GTS owners.. Additionally. IIRC @jpdchicago actually does daily drive his as well..

I agree with you.. with the prices being very similar in Euro.. if this were to convert down to a similar US price.. well Frankly.. this is a HECKUVA lot more interesting to me for track use than an M4 GTS... even if it's not street legal and it has to stay in garage at a track...

Dayum... that thing is Sick..

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The best part whit Porsche GT4 clubsport racecar was that you could accually drop It of at the average dealer to have service/maintanance done. At least that I was told while I was showing interest for the car. I wounder how It is with the BMW GT4?

Still to maintain a racecar is quite expencive If you go to accually race It.
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Personally, I'd buy this GT4 over GTS, would be more fun on track.
Nobody's gonna use GTS everyday, so for track use, GT4 makes more sense for the same price.
I know there are a couple of people in the DFW area that use an M4 GTS fairly regularly.. and I bet one guy uses his nearly daily.. that or his i8... so.. don't stereotype all GTS owners.. Additionally. IIRC @jpdchicago actually does daily drive his as well..

I agree with you.. with the prices being very similar in Euro.. if this were to convert down to a similar US price.. well Frankly.. this is a HECKUVA lot more interesting to me for track use than an M4 GTS... even if it's not street legal and it has to stay in garage at a track...

Dayum... that thing is Sick..
Respect to those who use GTS daily, but I wouldn't use it, I'd use MT Comp Pack for daily use, all I'm saying, for similar money I'd buy GT4 and use it on track days, I'd love to race it, but racing is too much money, and I'm sure it can be serviced in BMW Dealer, and cheaper then Porsche.
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I have to express some disappointment, however. It has taken a long time for BMW to offer a GT4 product. They seem a little behind the curve.
There has been a gap since the M3 GT4, but they did offer that before.

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I mean, where's their TCR product?
RWD in TCR isn't really a thing. Factory support for the BTCC team is probably to help off set the lack of promotion in touring car classes.


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http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/conten...5700573177.pdf


And if memory serves me right, M3 GT4 was even cheaper...
M3 GT4 was €125,000 + VAT can now be had for about 80,000 used.
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What are the specs for 0 - 100 km/h?
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However, you cannot simply convert the European price in Euro to USD to get the US price. His point is that in Europe the GTS and GT4 prices are the same. Presumably the same could be true in the US, although there is certainly no guarantee of that.

That being said, who is reporting the €169,000 price for the GT4? I believe I've seen hot-hatch based factory race car offerings approach that number, so that seams to be a screaming deal if true. On the other hand, those may have been tube chassis WRC or WTC cars with completely bespoken engine/drivetrain and custom all-CFRP wide bodies, so the comparison I am drawing is probably somewhat skewed.
Not quite.

IIRC, the GTS sold for €143k VAT included.

Here, we are talking €169k VAT excluded for the GT4. It seems the GT4 will be a fair bit more expensive than the GTS.
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What are the specs for 0 - 100 km/h?
Who cares about that for a circuit race car ?
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http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/conten...5701472474.pdf

Order form online as well.
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The headlights are darker than the regular M4 LCI.

Love those AP brakes.
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The brakes and suspension are fantastic.

Looks like the car finished well at the N24, and in one piece. Looked pretty cool with those enduro lights in the front bumper as well!
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BMW is now taking orders for the new BMW M4 GT4

BMW is now taking orders for the new BMW M4 GT4. The latest offering from BMW Motorsport is a full-on race car based on the BMW M4, but with technology and development transferred from BMW's current factory race car, the BMW M6 GT3. It has undergone more than 12,400 miles of testing, many hours in the wind tunnel, extensive fine tuning runs, and successful tests under race conditions.

For ?169,000 (about $189,000) customers get a comprehensive starter package. We assume that's the Europe price and VAT is extra. BMW did not release the price for U.S. customers.

https://www.bmwcca.org/news/bmw-now-...new-bmw-m4-gt4
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