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      05-17-2017, 02:28 PM   #23
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My leather bolsters look mint. Carbonstructure FTW!!! I might be a cloth seat with leather trim guy from now on. After 10 years of leather seats I'm a convert.
this..love my cloth carbonstructure
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      05-17-2017, 02:33 PM   #24
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So the general consensus is .... that nobody agrees on anything. It's either mint after ten years of use or it wore out a week after they got the car. And the bolsters suck. And of course we got at least one of the usual comments about the size of somebody's ass. OP - Sorry, you wasted your time here. The seats in your M3 are somewhere between perfect and defective. Treat them with caution and condition them often. Oh, btw..please do ask the "group" for some suggestions for leather treatment. That should be hilarious.
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      05-17-2017, 02:35 PM   #25
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I'm 6'2" 210, 2015 'vert seats, 20K on the odometer, seat has never been cleaned or detailed (which is obvious).

Looks fine to me, or at least no different than I'd expect from car leather.

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      05-17-2017, 02:45 PM   #26
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ask the "group" for some suggestions for leather treatment
Three words: random. orbital. polisher.
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      05-17-2017, 03:26 PM   #27
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2015 F80 with SO and no issue with wear. I wear jeans everyday, which I would think be worse than dress pants. My E46 did have left bolster wear from sliding in the seat, just saying.
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      05-17-2017, 03:30 PM   #28
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Maybe you have a Hugh Jass. Bc after 2 years and numerous types of attire including bare naked ass my SO looks and smells wonderful.
.. you mean Hugh Jazz gotta love bart simpson
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Three words: random. orbital. polisher.
Only if it's gas powered...

Also, I've heard of a service that will remove your seat and preserve it cryogenically for the future.
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so whats the best conditioner, that is not going to change the way my seats look or smell. i hate the super matte or glossy look. Also some smells are off putting. doubt this exists but fishing
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so whats the best conditioner, that is not going to change the way my seats look or smell. i hate the super matte or glossy look. Also some smells are off putting. doubt this exists but fishing
I've had good luck with the AMMO NYC products...haven't used them on the F80 yet, as it's still really new.

Zaino has also given me good results in the past. Both guys are chemists, which is pretty cool.
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      05-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #32
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Very normal. It's cost cutting.
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      05-17-2017, 11:50 PM   #33
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      05-18-2017, 12:10 PM   #34
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I'm 6'2" 210, 2015 'vert seats, 20K on the odometer, seat has never been cleaned or detailed (which is obvious).

Looks fine to me, or at least no different than I'd expect from car leather.

Those seat look SO much more comfortable than the coupe for daily driving.
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      05-18-2017, 12:26 PM   #35
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2015 shikir orange. no issues. better than anything in any other 3 series.

I wear jeans 7 months and shorts the other 5
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      05-18-2017, 12:40 PM   #36
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so whats the best conditioner, that is not going to change the way my seats look or smell. i hate the super matte or glossy look. Also some smells are off putting. doubt this exists but fishing
I've had good luck with the AMMO NYC products...haven't used them on the F80 yet, as it's still really new.

Zaino has also given me good results in the past. Both guys are chemists, which is pretty cool.
+ 1 Ziano, nice mat finish & smell.
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I think the only subject that has had more discussion is possibly tire pressure....but my 2016 Full SO interior looks as good as the day I took delivery with 9k miles now. I'm no little guy either and I've done virtually nothing to the leather, but the car does have Suntek tint on all windows, including windshield which blocks nearly all the UV. When not being driven, it is garage stored.

And btw, since no one else has pointed it out:
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      05-18-2017, 12:48 PM   #38
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I made sure to use lexol leather cleaner and conditioner on all leather surfaces once every 6 months. Leather was perfect after 1.3 years. I also had high quality carbon tint, maybe that helped.
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I have Full Merino Leather in my F83. I find it to be very high quality particularly compared to the Dakota leather in my 335i E93.
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      05-18-2017, 05:38 PM   #40
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Maybe you have a Hugh Jass. Bc after 2 years and numerous types of attire including bare naked ass my SO looks and smells wonderful.
The mind boggles.
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      05-18-2017, 07:39 PM   #41
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My black leather looks like there's a bit of tension at each seam, unlike my wife's X5 leather. I agree I'm a little disappointed by the quality.
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      05-19-2017, 12:07 AM   #42
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+ 1 Ziano, nice mat finish & smell.
zaino z9 and z10 are rebottled duragloss 441 and 221 for less than half the price
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I'm 6'2" 210, 2015 'vert seats, 20K on the odometer, seat has never been cleaned or detailed (which is obvious).

Looks fine to me, or at least no different than I'd expect from car leather.

U need to vacuum up your peanut butter and jelly crumbs
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      05-19-2017, 09:31 AM   #44
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U need to vacuum up your peanut butter and jelly crumbs
eh, I gotta return it in 5 months so, plus I have a lot going on right now.

I might vacuum the next one though ... not a bad idea .... yeah, I could maybe see myself doing chores



Yeah, but, you know, later.

Not now.
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