Sport Auto: 991.2 GTS runs the Ring in 7:23.7

[gmd2003]

So SA just released a video of the .2 911 GTS running the ring on the new factory optional Corsa tires ( SC2 equivalent DOT R comp) in 7:23.7 seconds . That's 14 seconds faster than the SA M4 GTS time and over 4 seconds faster than the SA .1 GT3RS time ! No adjustment or max aero settings needed lol .

[DieGrüneHölle]

Always interesting to see real world times vs factory times.

M4 GTS
Factory- 7:28
SportAuto- 7:37

991.2 GTS
Factory- 7:26
SportAuto- 7:23.7

[4everkidd]

ughhh I want me a P-Car in a bad way...

[RIP1981]

Factory time for GTS on these sport tyres was 7:22.

So very close this time.

Without those sports tyres just on UHPs, the official factory time is 7:26.

Amazing for a comfortable street 911.

[fusionchicken]

this is honestly just bananas

[996ttelise]

I have seen a time of 7.22 on the R Compounds.

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7:22 - that's how long the 450 hp GTS needs to tackle the 73 turns of the infamous German track.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...rs-114772.html

[Mr Pete]

GTS has to be the perfect 911 road car.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

I have seen a time of 7.22 on the R Compounds.

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7:22 - that's how long the 450 hp GTS needs to tackle the 73 turns of the infamous German track.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...rs-114772.html

7:22 vs 7:23.7 ,different driver different day on a 7 minute lap is running the claimed time lol.

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

7:22 vs 7:23.7 ,different driver different day on a 7 minute lap is running the claimed time lol.

1.7 seconds on any track if you have any skill is a massive difference.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

1.7 seconds on any track if you have any skill is a massive difference.

My local track will fall of 2 seconds on a 1:18 lap on a 90 degree day vs a 60 degree day , same driver same skill level. In this case we have a factory time with a pro driver and their best attempt out of literally days of testing ,likely at the best conditions possible vs a journalist doing three laps per SA protocol. I'd say the car delivers .

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

My local track will fall of 2 seconds on a 1:18 lap on a 90 degree day vs a 60 degree day , same driver same skill level. In this case we have a factory time with a pro driver and their best attempt out of literally days of testing ,likely at the best conditions possible vs a journalist doing three laps per SA protocol. I'd say the car delivers .

I doubt guys looking to set times at the Ring go out on rainy or cold days in less than optimal conditions. These guys get out and run many efforts in optimal conditions and will pull the plug if blow a corner or braking point. Accordingly, the time we see reported are generally their best laps in near optimal conditions and 2 second under those considerations is an eternity.

What track? I began racing 911s in 84 and have raced just about every class since in both open and closed wheel up to champ atlantic and gt3 Cup. I could run amazingly consistent times without traffic and bone head errors or traffic causing me to lose even a half a second felt like an eternity trying to make up.

When qualifying or running on open track, I could hit my same braking points, turn in, apex and track outs within inches and run incredibly consistent times lap after lap.

[Draper]

This is nuts.

Is there a faster daily-able car out there?

[CirrusSR22]

Great car, but the time isn't anything that special. The Corvette Z06 did 7:22 way back in 2011.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

Great car, but the time isn't anything that special. The Corvette Z06 did 7:22 way back in 2011.

I disagree. The Z06 not only makes much more power (60 hp) and torque (130 ft lb) but was lighter (~200 lbs) and also has the Z07 aero which makes a lot of downforce. Those stats only cement how good this time really is for a luxurious GT car, agnosticn of price.

The new GT3 has the same power to weight as that z06 and demolishes that time.

[CirrusSR22]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

I disagree. The Z06 not only makes much more power (60 hp) and torque (130 ft lb) but was lighter (~200 lbs) and also has the Z07 aero which makes a lot of downforce. Those stats only cement how good this time really is for a luxurious GT car, agnosticn of price.

The new GT3 has the same power to weight as that z06 and demolishes that time.

The GTS has plenty of aero improvements over the base 911 too. Lower, wider, different lip, different spoiler, etc.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

The GTS has plenty of aero improvements over the base 911 too. Lower, wider, different lip, different spoiler, etc.

The GTS other than being wider doesn't really have anymore aero than a base 911. We will have to see when Sport Auto puts out the supertest results but my guess is there is negligible difference in aero between a base, S and GTS.
My point though was that it doesn't produce nearly as much downforce as a c6 with the z07 package and even that aside it's heavier, and way down on power and torque, which is what's so impressive.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

I doubt guys looking to set times at the Ring go out on rainy or cold days in less than optimal conditions. These guys get out and run many efforts in optimal conditions and will pull the plug if blow a corner or braking point. Accordingly, the time we see reported are generally their best laps in near optimal conditions and 2 second under those considerations is an eternity.

What track? I began racing 911s in 84 and have raced just about every class since in both open and closed wheel up to champ atlantic and gt3 Cup. I could run amazingly consistent times without traffic and bone head errors or traffic causing me to lose even a half a second felt like an eternity trying to make up.

When qualifying or running on open track, I could hit my same braking points, turn in, apex and track outs within inches and run incredibly consistent times lap after lap.

Sport auto runs the cars when they get them with a journalist , the manufacturer sets the best possible time by a pro driver after many many attempts , thats a pretty big difference. Journalist doing 3 laps in a production car vs pro doing a 100 with Porsche engineers in a non production car perfectly set up for the ring.

My local track is Roebling Road Raceway , its an older SCCA track and hasn't been repaved in too long so grip deteriorates in the afternoon for multiple reasons. Between the pavement temp on a hot day and the coarseness of the surface it gets even R comps out of the optimal temp range. Ive got 1000's of laps here in my prepped Z4M , it used to not be like this a few years ago. At any rate my point is more the difference in the factory team / pro driver/ AND conditions can easily equate to a couple of seconds on a 7:2x lap when compared to even a skilled journalist with limited attempts.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

The GTS other than being wider doesn't really have anymore aero than a base 911. We will have to see when Sport Auto puts out the supertest results but my guess is there is negligible difference in aero between a base, S and GTS.
My point though was that it doesn't produce nearly as much downforce as a c6 with the z07 package and even that aside it's heavier, and way down on power and torque, which is what's so impressive.

Here's the results.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Here's the results.

App crashed, try again.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

App crashed, try again.

Thanks. Doesn't look like the GTS has materially much better aero based on those wind tunnel results.

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

I disagree. The Z06 not only makes much more power (60 hp) and torque (130 ft lb) but was lighter (~200 lbs) and also has the Z07 aero which makes a lot of downforce. Those stats only cement how good this time really is for a luxurious GT car, agnosticn of price.

The new GT3 has the same power to weight as that z06 and demolishes that time.

C6 Z06 didn't have any special aero. I think you're thinking of the C7Z which does. C7Z probably wouldn't of completed a lap without overheating though.

[Liquid2.0T]

The 991.2 GTS is seriously impressive. It's certainly on the goals list of cars to get.