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05-11-2014, 08:16 PM | #45 | |
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I'm so glad to have the chance of a lifetime here in the States!
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05-11-2014, 08:23 PM | #47 |
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Edit: I thought i was quoting the M5 Vbox results from the thread
I saw this but consider that the poster used this setting in the Vbox 2% slope 1 foot roll was used 0-60mph (vs 0-100kmh) I would still have the M3 rather than my M6. |
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05-11-2014, 08:24 PM | #48 | |
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What is the benchmark everyone looks for? |
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05-11-2014, 08:30 PM | #49 | |
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I guess a lot of these M5 comments are coming because people used to make claims that it would be similar/close performance. |
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05-11-2014, 08:31 PM | #50 |
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Thanks UAE. That's impressive numbers in sandy conditions. As for the M6 guys, nothing is put to rest. I'm not saying one is faster than the other over any distance or to any level, but conditions play a big roll. I've seen a comparo where they couldn't get either of a GTR or M6 below 4.99 to 60. The best the M6 did was 5.5. I think it was TFL Car.
Plus, if you can pull a 3.8-3.9 or better, as BMW promises or better and you don't have turns, elevations, etc., things will only get better. Just have enough confidence not to poo poo on a great guy's thread, as soon as he posts numbers. |
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By the way, we all know the 6 is a beast. We just want the 4 to be beastly as well. |
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05-11-2014, 10:10 PM | #54 |
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UAE, can you tell us how the M3 and M6 feel relative to each other during straight line acceleration? Does the M3 just seem quick or do you get the sense of lots of power through the runs?
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05-11-2014, 10:28 PM | #56 | |
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My C63 is usually quicker launching from a stop or with Race Start than with roll out (which usually generates more spin).
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05-11-2014, 10:34 PM | #57 | ||
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And it seems based on this data to be at least remotely capable of reaching at least my desired goals for the car, which I'm happy about lol. Last edited by M5Rlz; 05-11-2014 at 10:41 PM.. |
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05-11-2014, 10:47 PM | #59 |
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Thanks again uae. Really appreciate all the data. Very impressed with the numbers given the conditions.
These are the numbers us amateur drivers can expect. I'm sure there will be lower times but this is what I expect personally. This pull appears to be a significant improvement over your first launch video. (obviously due to the 10 degree drop as well as the different shift points) |
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05-11-2014, 11:32 PM | #63 |
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What's so hard about launching the car with DCT and mashing the accelerator afterwards?
If it takes the skill of an F1 driver to get to 11s than it is not really a 11s car for most owners. Who knows about the road conditions? May be it's actually a downward slope with strong winds behind the car. I may get the M4 eventually but let's be realistic about the straight line performance of a 430hp,1500kg+/- car. It's no M5/M6 and may even be slower than the current C63AMG E507. Yes, you can brag that it has more than 430hp with 20hp-30hp hidden somewhere but somehow I don't think so. |
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05-11-2014, 11:47 PM | #64 | |
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Thanks OP. Nice to seem some real data. We all really appreciate these "pre-magazine" instrumented results (even if only Vbox).
For the benefit of those of us Americans obsessed with 0-60, the posts title should note NO ROLLOUT. This is a sub 4 second run to 100 km/hr and thus also to 60 mph with roll out. More on that later. Looks like I pretty well NAILED most major metrics way back in late 2010. Have a look here. There sure wasn't much known about the car that long ago, we even thought it might be called an F32 M3... From that post: Quote:
1 foot roll outs do make a significant difference, about 0.3 s for the 1/4 mi and about the same 0-60. A roll out is just that the timer does not even start until the car moves 1 foot. Here are the simulation results showing with roll out and no roll out. US drag racing and most if not all magazines use the 1 foot roll out. 1/4 mile vs. 400m does matter as well. See below: By the way the methodology behind the tables below is a physics based vehicle simulation program. It certainly isn't perfect but with good inputs and careful customization is can be highly accurate. There is a bit more on the inputs and methodology in the first link above. Comments:
And for our metric friends...
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F'n great this video really convinces me that the car sound awesome with stock exhaust
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05-11-2014, 11:59 PM | #66 | ||
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But you were on target The car feels like it can do more with A better launch Better rpm-I can adjust the launch rpm using the cruise control stalk 11 seconds is possible. I will try with the 1 foot roll out tonight Lets see |
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