LED vs. Xenon

[Chill72]

Here is a thread showing LEDs:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934594

[gee-m-w]

I think they emit a lot more light.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by gee-m-w

I think they emit a lot more light.

Not really!

[JoeFromPA]

Light patterns are fixed - they aren't going to throw light further, higher, or wider.

The intensity of that light at a given difference may be changed though; however, modern xenons are already quite intense - to the point of blinding oncoming traffic if you are cresting a hill or otherwise directly beaming low beams into someone's windshield.

Don't get LEDs because you think they are going to be like driving around in the daytime. You already get an amazing lighting performance with xenons.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

Light patterns are fixed - they aren't going to throw light further, higher, or wider.

The intensity of that light at a given difference may be changed though; however, modern xenons are already quite intense - to the point of blinding oncoming traffic if you are cresting a hill or otherwise directly beaming low beams into someone's windshield.

Don't get LEDs because you think they are going to be like driving around in the daytime. You already get an amazing lighting performance with xenons.

This is a very objective response. I agree completely!

[Mako]

So why does BMW charge $1900 for this when Audi charges $1400 (dad's new S6 only cost him $1400 for full LED). I hate paying more for the same thing

[Chill72]

Originally Posted by Mako

So why does BMW charge $1900 for this when Audi charges $1400 (dad's new S6 only cost him $1400 for full LED). I hate paying more for the same thing

Why you mad BRO?

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by Mako

So why does BMW charge $1900 for this when Audi charges $1400 (dad's new S6 only cost him $1400 for full LED). I hate paying more for the same thing

Firstly, it's a free market. Secondly, it's not "the same thing". Just because they're both LED systems doesn't make them equal.

[ZGM3]

Originally Posted by Gonven

To complete the info above this video explain the technology

This video totally changed my opinion and will most likely get the LED package.

[ZGM3]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

When on "low beams", only the top halves of all four headlights are illuminated, giving it a sort of furrowed look. On high beams, the bottom halves also light up.

Where did you see these lights in action? Outside at night or inside at the auto show. I ask because I wonder if in a real world situation where the car is outside at night could anyone be able to tell if just the top half is lit up. Theses are super bright lights and I imagine that the light output is so great that a person staring at the beam will not be able to discern a difference between the top and bottom bulb/projector location since they will be looking at a bright light. But I have not seen them in person so I could be wrong.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by m3nari

Where did you see these lights in action? Outside at night or inside at the auto show. I ask because I wonder if in a real world situation where the car is outside at night could anyone be able to tell if just the top half is lit up. Theses are super bright lights and I imagine that the light output is so great that a person staring at the beam will not be able to discern a difference between the top and bottom bulb/projector location since they will be looking at a bright light. But I have not seen them in person so I could be wrong.

I've seen them in the real world, and you're right, it's difficult to see only the top half.

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by m3nari

This video totally changed my opinion and will most likely get the LED package.

I don't think the 3 gets this "intelligent" system with the camera. It's adaptive (steering), but does not have the full capability shown in the video. My '12 ML has its intelligent lights 'dumbed down' for the US, as well.

[GOLFFRR]

That video showing the technology is amazing! Def glad I added this to my build.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

That video showing the technology is amazing! Def glad I added this to my build.

Make sure you get it coded in order to take advantage of that tech. It won't come like that from the factory. Many of those features are disabled.

[Black Gold]

Honestly as gee-whiz as that vid is, it does nothing for me. Am I alone on this?

Traffic detecting cameras etc just seems like too much and unnecessary IMO

I would never think to spend 2k on that when standard xenon performance is so good..

Of course, no disrespect to anyone who chooses this option.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Honestly as gee-whiz as that vid is, it does nothing for me. Am I alone on this?

Traffic detecting cameras etc just seems like too much and unnecessary IMO

I would never think to spend 2k on that when standard xenon performance is so good..

Of course, no disrespect to anyone who chooses this option.

You're not alone, especially when the xenons can do the same thing.

[GOLFFRR]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Make sure you get it coded in order to take advantage of that tech. It won't come like that from the factory. Many of those features are disabled.

Interesting i did not know that. I'll wait till I get the car and see what all it does then go from there

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

Interesting i did not know that. I'll wait till I get the car and see what all it does then go from there

We figured out how to code the disabled portions a few weeks ago, so there are F30/F32 guys now running the disabled features.

[Sir Loin]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We figured out how to code the disabled portions a few weeks ago, so there are F30/F32 guys now running the disabled features.

I will need to read up on how to code the F series when I get the car. Looks complicated. And it seems it is taboo to get a token...

[TunedM2C]

New BMW LED's.

[signes]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I don't think the 3 gets this "intelligent" system with the camera. It's adaptive (steering), but does not have the full capability shown in the video. My '12 ML has its intelligent lights 'dumbed down' for the US, as well.

No US cars will get the full capability because our regulations prohibit those "adaptive" functions. Audi ran into the same trouble with the LED system they have on the A8.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Sir Loin

I will need to read up on how to code the F series when I get the car. Looks complicated. And it seems it is taboo to get a token...

It's actually REALLY easy. Our resident coders can code a car in 5-10 minutes depending on which options you want.