F80 M3 / F82 M4 first (1200 miles) service guide - what's required...

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Gomie

What about how far you can go before getting your 1200 mile service?

I have 750 miles on my M4 from Euro Delivery and then have a 900 mile drive home from the performance center. Do you think this will be ok to have my local dealer do the 1200 mile service when I get the car back home with about 1700 miles?

Yes, you will be fine/ok.

[rebirth24]

If anyone needs the screw sets, let me know. Bought them but didn't end up needing them. We can work something out..

[RJVIII]

Besides these screenshots, is their something we can show our SA to prove what the correct oil is for our Diffs?

[RocketBoots]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Ok, found out something new - why some cars have the Alu screws(drain plugs) and the later cars do not(steel screw).

BMW AG changed the oil pan from Alu/magnesium to steel. There were some minor corrosion problems, so BMW changed the oil pan to an all steel design.

So... when performing the first service(or any oil change) check by your car's VIN to see which oil drain plug/screw you have. Always replaced the crush ring gasket. But IF you have the early design... replace the screw/plug too.

Dackel

Very interesting. Do you know how we can use our VIN to check if the oil pan is Alu/Mag vs steel, or is this something only the dealer can do? I just had my run-in service, and they didn't change my drain plug.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by RocketBoots

Very interesting. Do you know how we can use our VIN to check if the oil pan is Alu/Mag vs steel, or is this something only the dealer can do? I just had my run-in service, and they didn't change my drain plug.

I would go old school tech and use a simple magnet on the oil pan.


But yes, when you look up the part on RealOEM.com you will see an "AL" next to the screw/drain plug metric size. AL = Aluminum. The Alu bolt is also much larger than the metal one. 16mm's vs 12mm's.

#4 M16X1.5AL Aluminum p/n 11117849396
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5588

#4 M12X16 metal screw p/n 11137535106
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5919

Dackel

[mul1gan]

can someone with experience help, although not sure what can be done about it now that they have already completed the service.

this is what I got, dont think they replaced the oil or diff plugs.

11-42-7-854-445 oil filter
83-21-2-405-085 bmw group LL 5w30
07-11-9-963-132 gasket ring
83-22-1-467-993 diff oil XJ fluid 75-140

thanks

[Mr. Hankey]

I just had mine done today and was the same...except my oil was 365-946 (still says LL-01), and they put in SAF-XJ in the diff...asked them to look into the MSP/A diff fluid and was told that they called BMW NA as system told the SAF-XJ and they were told it doesn't matter which one is used - identical or nearly identical specs...dunno if I believe them.

[Ggeezer]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Have "him" look at his ETK(parts catalog)... it says so right in the ETK that the oil pan screw and the diff screws/plugs should be replaced and are a one time use!

"Achtung! Aluminium-Schrauben sind nur 1x Zu verwenden" = "Attention! Aluminum screws are only 1x to use"

Just had my 2,000 km service done today for my M4 (Jan 2015 production).

They replaced the following:
83-22-9-415-961 : 20 units (SAF - XJ + FM)
11-42-7-854-445
83-21-2-296-489: 65 units
07-11-9-963-132 (crusher)

So based on my production date, the engine oil screw didn't need to be replaced but they replaced the crusher.

Contrary to what's been mentioned, it doesn't seem that the diff plugs need to be replaced since according to etk/realoem, they're not made of Aluminum. Instead, it is a zinc silicate coating (ZnS3).

http://www.etk.cc/bmw/EN/search/sele...SA/33/33_1841/

I pressed my SA on replacing the diff plugs but he just mentioned that they're an allen key type of plug and aren't one-time use.

Dackelone can you confirm that the diff plugs aren't made of aluminum and thus wouldn't need to be replaced?

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Potakis

Just had my 2,000 km service done today for my M4 (Jan 2015 production).

They replaced the following:
83-22-9-415-961 : 20 units (SAF - XJ + FM)
11-42-7-854-445
83-21-2-296-489: 65 units
07-11-9-963-132 (crusher)

So based on my production date, the engine oil screw didn't need to be replaced but they replaced the crusher.

Contrary to what's been mentioned, it doesn't seem that the diff plugs need to be replaced since according to etk/realoem, they're not made of Aluminum. Instead, it is a zinc silicate coating (ZnS3).

http://www.etk.cc/bmw/EN/search/sele...SA/33/33_1841/

I pressed my SA on replacing the diff plugs but he just mentioned that they're an allen key type of plug and aren't one-time use.

Dackelone can you confirm that the diff plugs aren't made of aluminum and thus wouldn't need to be replaced?

Try searching on RealOEM.com via your VIN. When I looked for a Jan build date... there were no cars built in Jan. ? When I selected Dec, 2014 it says you don't have to replace the screws(just the o-rings) but it shows a different part number for those o-rings: p/n 33117525064

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=33_1841

Bottom line is... I think you are ok with what your dealer did. I wouldn't worry too much over the o-rings.

Dack

[s4mmie_]

Hi guys, I had my 2k service done a few days ago.
I noticed they've put "ULTRA 5w40 BMW LL01" oil in.

From searching around here, 0w30 and 5w30 seem to be the most common oil weights. Just wondering if the 5w40 is okay or if I should push for the 0w/5w30? I'm thinking they might spec a higher viscosity for the higher temperatures here in Australia?

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by spraycanmansam

Hi guys, I had my 2k service done a few days ago.
I noticed they've put "ULTRA 5w40 BMW LL01" oil in.

From searching around here, 0w30 and 5w30 seem to be the most common oil weights. Just wondering if the 5w40 is okay or if I should push for the 0w/5w30? I'm thinking they might spec a higher viscosity for the higher temperatures here in Australia?

Since you live in such a hot climate... 5w40 is probably just fine. Since that is what your dealer is using... that's probably what BMW specs for down under.

[Sir Loin]

Just had mine done. I got 83-21-2-405-085 LL-01 oil. Is this the right oil?

From my dashcam's recording, I can see the oil came from a hose off the ceiling, not in bottles. I thought our M cars need special oil and I wonder if they can get special oil through the ceiling hose...

[WillMotivation]

I go to the dealer today because the service notice on the car is coming on. I just bought the car with 6000 miles on it. I give he guy my key and he says they don't have record of the car having 1200 mile service done and I could have warranty issues. Wow. What a way to greet a new customer. Dumb ass could have asked if I had the work done and made a recommendation instead of jumping to say I'm screwed especially when I am not having any problems with the car. Makes me think they are dealing with too many warranty issues or something.

[M4GTS]

Hi

Just had my 1200 mile service done and my Diff Oil was 83 22 2 365 988. Have they changed the part numbers again?

[WillMotivation]

Good news... After my last post I went and found another BMW dealership in my area that took care of me. Got me good to go. Free 1200 mile service (at 6000 miles) and went over all my warranties on the car and did not act like assholes. MAG BMW of Dublin, Ohio is highly recommended.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by e92V8

Hi

Just had my 1200 mile service done and my Diff Oil was 83 22 2 365 988. Have they changed the part numbers again?

As I have said many times before... EVERY dealer bills out oil fluids DIFFERENTLY! Some buy it in bottles from BMW AG. Some buy it in bulk from BMW. And some buy it in bulk LOCALLY. AND... they all use different(made up) part numbers. So unless your dealer bough the oil in bottles from BMW NA(AG)... you will have to ask your dealer WHAT OIL they used.

That said... I looked up your oil part number #83 22 2 365 988, it is not in BMW's system. So its not from them. Doesn't mean its the wrong oil. Its just means they used a bulk oil(drum/tank).


This is the correct gear oil #83222282583
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...38#83222282583

[M4GTS]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

As I have said many times before... EVERY dealer bills out oil fluids DIFFERENTLY! Some buy it in bottles from BMW AG. Some buy it in bulk from BMW. And some buy it in bulk LOCALLY. AND... they all use different(made up) part numbers. So unless your dealer bough the oil in bottles from BMW NA(AG)... you will have to ask your dealer WHAT OIL they used.

That said... I looked up your oil part number #83 22 2 365 988, it is not in BMW's system. So its not from them. Doesn't mean its the wrong oil. Its just means they used a bulk oil(drum/tank).


This is the correct gear oil #83222282583
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...38#83222282583

Interesting, because I just found this:




Here:

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...catalogue.html

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by e92V8

Interesting, because I just found this:




Here:

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...catalogue.html

So... there you go! You answered your own question.

#83 22 2 365 988 gear oil is ok to use.

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by Turrizt

I go to the dealer today because the service notice on the car is coming on. I just bought the car with 6000 miles on it. I give he guy my key and he says they don't have record of the car having 1200 mile service done and I could have warranty issues. Wow. What a way to greet a new customer. Dumb ass could have asked if I had the work done and made a recommendation instead of jumping to say I'm screwed especially when I am not having any problems with the car. Makes me think they are dealing with too many warranty issues or something.

What dealer was this? I am taking delivery of my car soon and want to avoid bad apples. I'm in Columbus too BTW.

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by Turrizt

Good news... After my last post I went and found another BMW dealership in my area that took care of me. Got me good to go. Free 1200 mile service (at 6000 miles) and went over all my warranties on the car and did not act like assholes. MAG BMW of Dublin, Ohio is highly recommended.

I was just out at MAG today. Good to hear they took care of you.

[Tom (Atl)]

Can it be done before 1200 miles is reached?
Also how much should this cost in Europe? On an ED

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Tom (Atl)

Can it be done before 1200 miles is reached?
Also how much should this cost in Europe? On an ED

It should be around ~500 euros over here.