F80 M3 / F82 M4 Real World Tested Performance Numbers Database (with Competitors)

[///ADMAN]

[QUOTE=M6-Coupe;16287086]This real world is less than 5 second if you time it

I'd hope so. Even my 335is with DCT can do less than 5 seconds.

[mact3333]

Maybe the solution to M3/4 having better real world 0-60 times is to improve the LC...I have seen several youtube videos even with BMW instructors using LC that couldn't get better than 4.6 secs due to wheel spin...obviously AWD cars have huge advantage from a standing start....BMW needs to figure out a way to be able to lay that power down bait better.

We all know the new M3 is capable of doing 0-60 in 3.9 sec's but it would appear it is difficult to actually accomplish this feat for the avg Joe, which says something in itself.

I did see the M3 this past weekend and that full leather is expensive but its something you gotta have...looked really nice...interior looks so much better now...exterior looked really nice also...great lines...the front wheel gap(but not rear) looks like it still has shipping blocks in so that was abit weird...YMB looked pretty much like baby blue...would be ok color for garage queen but not a dd for me anyway.

[phear_me]

Launch Control?

[rick berry]

Looks like the M3/M4 is a little undertired for optimum 0-60. As an old drag racer the trap speed of 117 to 120 is very impressive. Shows that both cars are making very good power. But both are NOT muscle cars in the 1/4 mile sense. They are all around performance cars. Great ones.

[See5]

Originally Posted by M3OW

Can someone explain how the m4 has a faster 0-150 mph than the corvette? The vette has more power, torque, and less weight!

The latest test has the C7 doing 0-150 in 20.9 so it and the M4 are in a dead heat in a straight line. The quicker shifting DCT and the S55's flat powerband help here.

The 181mph recorded by C/D is strangely slow. The C7 should do 185-190 in most conditions.

[Dalko43]

Originally Posted by RobinH.

More rubber doesn't automatically means better traction of course. If the BMW can bring the power down the road better than the 'Vette, then the M4 already has the lead, albeit little. But it's probably the DCT, indeed.

The vette has an e-diff like the M4 and has more rubber. In theory it should have more traction. But unlike the M4, the vette doesn't have a DCT, so its ability to manage wheel slip when starting from a dead stop (at least with a 6mt) is probably limited.

Something to note though: the vette does beat or at least match the M4 in 0-60 and 0-100 times. So with its higher HP and torque, it should be beating the M4, or at least matching it, in 0-150 and 1/4 times. The only reason it doesn't is because you have different magazines/publications testing the cars under different circumstances.

The vette is easily the faster car in a straight line (at least where racing is concerned, not 0-100 time trials) as indicated by the Hockenheim times. When they get a time from the nurburgring, i'll bet the difference between the 2 will be even greater.

[jc05e46m3]

Thanks @swamp2 ! I think these are all relevant and great info!

[RobinH.]

Originally Posted by Dalko43

The vette has an e-diff like the M4 and has more rubber. In theory it should have more traction. But unlike the M4, the vette doesn't have a DCT, so its ability to manage wheel slip when starting from a dead stop (at least with a 6mt) is probably limited.

Something to note though: the vette does beat or at least match the M4 in 0-60 and 0-100 times. So with its higher HP and torque, it should be beating the M4, or at least matching it, in 0-150 and 1/4 times. The only reason it doesn't is because you have different magazines/publications testing the cars under different circumstances.

The vette is easily the faster car in a straight line (at least where racing is concerned, not 0-100 time trials) as indicated by the Hockenheim times. When they get a time from the nurburgring, i'll bet the difference between the 2 will be even greater.

Agreed. Didn't know that the 'Vette had an e-diff, makes sense though.

We can all agree that it's an impressive car, that M4.

[swamp2]

Added F-Type R, M5, M4 6MT

0 ~ 60mph time:

• Nissn GT-R: 3.0 s (Car and Driver)
• Porsche 991 Carrera S PDK: 3.5 s (Road and Track)
• Jaguar F-Type R: 3.6 s (Motor Trend)
• BMW M5: 3.7 s (Motor Trend)
• BMW M3 M-DCT: 3.8 s (Motor Trend)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Motor Trend)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 3.9 s (Car and Driver)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 3.9s (Motor Trend)
• Porsche 911s PDK: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 4.0 s (Car and Driver)

0 ~ 100 mph time:

• Nissan GT-R: 7.1 s (Car and Driver)
• BMW M5: 8.4 s (Motor Trend)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
• Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.6 s (Car and Driver)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 8.8 s (Autocar)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 8.8 s (Motor Trend)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 9.2 s (Car and Driver)
• Porsche 911s PDK: 9.3 s (Car and Driver)
• Audi RS5: 10.7 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 150 mph time:

• M4 M-DCT: 20.6 s (Autocar)
• Corvette Stingray 7MT: 20.9 s (Car and Driver)
• Porsche 911s PDK: 22.8 s (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 23.2 s (Car and Driver)
• Audi RS5: 27.3 s (Autocar)

0 ~ 200 km/h time:

• BMW M5: 13.0 s (Sportauto)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 13.7 s (Sportauto)
• BMW M4 6MT: 14.1 s (Auto Bild)
• Porsche Carrera 911S PDK: 14.8 s (Sportauto)
• Audi RS5 DSG: 14.8 s (Auto Bild)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 15.0 s (Sportauto)

1/4 mile time and speed:

• Nissan GT-R: 11.2 s @ 125 mph (Car and Driver)
• Porsche Carrera 911S: 11.8 s @ ? (Car and Driver)
• Jaguar F-Type R: 11.8 s @ 122.3 mph (Motor Trend)
• BMW M5: 11.9 s @ 120.3 mph (Motor Trend)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119 mph (Car and Driver)
• BMW M3 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 117.8 mph (Motor Trend)
• BMW M4 M-DCT: 12.1 s @ 119.1 mph (Motor Trend)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 118 mph (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 12.2 s @ 117.3 mph (Motor Trend)
• BMW M4 M-DCT 12.3 s @ 120.9 mph (Autocar)
• Porsche 911s PDK: 12.4 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 12.5 s @ 116 mph (Car and Driver)
• Audi RS5: 13.0 s @ 110.1 mph (Autocar)

Standing 1 km:

• BMW M4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Autocar)
• BMW M3/4 M-DCT: 21.9 s (Official from BMW)
• Porsche Carrera 911 4S PDK: 22.0 s (1001motuers)
• BMW M3/4 6MT: 22.2 s (Official from BMW)

70 mph ~ 0 braking distance:

• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 137 ft (Car and Driver)"]Car and Driver[/URL])
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 142 ft (Car and Driver)
• BMW M4: 143.4 ft (Autocar)
• Porsche Carrera 911S: 147 ft (Car and Driver)
• BMW M4: 151 ft (Car and Driver)

60 mph ~ 0 braking time/distance:

• BMW M4: 2.4 s (Autocar)
• Jaguar F-Type R: 101 ft (Motor Trend)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 7MT: 104 ft (Motor Trend)
• BMW M5: 110 ft (Motor Trend)

100 km/h ~ 0 braking distance:

• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 33.3 m (Sportauto)
• Porsche Carrera 911S: 34.9 m (Sportauto)
• BMW M5: 37.5 m (Sportauto)

200 kph ~ 0 braking distance:

• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 131.0 m (Sportauto)
• Porsche Carrera 911S: 133.9 m (Sportauto)

Skidpad 300ft (unless noted):

• Porsche 911S: 1.06 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (200 ft) (Car and Driver)
• Chevrolet Corvette Stingray: 1.03 g (Car and Driver)
• M3: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
• M4: 1.00g (radius not specified) (Motor Trend)
• BMW M4: 0.98 g (Car and Driver)
• Nissan GT-R: 0.95 g (Car and Driver)

Hockenheim time:
(all from Sportauto)

• 1:10.4 Porsche Carrera 911S
• 1:10.6 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
• 1:10.9 Audi R8 V10
• 1:11.5 Corvette Stingray
• 1:12.8 BMW M4 M-DCT
• 1:13.4 BMW M5
• 1:14.3 Audi RS5

Nurburgring Nordeschleife time:
(20.6 km, all from Sportauto)

• 7:44 Porsche Carrera 911S
• 7:45 Audi R8 V10
• 7:46 Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series
• 7:51 BMW M4 M-DCT
• 7:52 Porsche Panamera Turbo S
• 7:59 Audi RS5
• 8:05 BMW M5

[Romo]

Nice !!

Would it be possible to add Cayman GT(S) times?

Nordschleife Cayman GTS 7.53 to my best knowledge, only 2 seconds slower to an M4

[Dave07997S]

Hey Swamp, the 991S ran 11.8 118mph according to Road and Track article you posted..also did 0-100 in 8.4 sec.

Dave

[3M TAPE]

So M3 is faster than the M4.

Nice!

[avsbmw]

WOW incredible numbers!

[swamp2]

It would be great to make this more of a community effort! We probably had 10 folks adding results for the E9X thread. It is not at all hard to follow the formatting. Just insert:

[*]Car: Spec result (Magazine)

and use the insert hyperlink button when the magazine name is highlighted.

Cheers!

[Damasconian]

On this Forum, I see a lot of M-DCT when referring to the auto transmission.

Does that mean Manual-DCT or M(referring to M cars)-DCT?

[Bahn360Photo]

nice! thanks a lot!

[alexmtl_135i]

Why no data to compare it with the C63 ?

Edit: Nevermind, the original link has it

[i001947]

Nice to know. Frankly, I like being in my M3 at any speed, even at 25 mph.

[Mako]

how about their 5-60 times as that is the "real world" number that will mean the most. 0-60 in pretty meaningless as cars like the Audi S6 post amazing times (3.7) but then put up 4.9 second 5-60 times!

The M3 as tested by Car and Driver was 3.9 0-60 and 4.2 5-60, so at a stop light it should easily take out the S6, but 0-60 times make people think otherwise.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by alexmtl_135i

Why no data to compare it with the C63 ?

Edit: Nevermind, the original link has it

comparing Car and Driver's own numbers

2009 C63
0-60 3.9 seconds
5-60 4.2 seconds

2015 M3/M4
0-60 3.9 seconds
5-60 4.2 seconds

considering that's a 6.2L V8 vs a 3.0L I6, similar size cars, that is amazing.
not to mention the MPG on the C63 was 12/18 (and I usually got around 13-14 mpg real world driving).

[Np2014]

Why is the M3 faster than the M4?

[biglare]

So this is a cut and paste data thread from other sources?

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