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I think the GTS will always be worth more than its M4 counterpart, and in 20-30 years I'm sure one stuck in a garage, and is the right color combo/ perfect will bring big dollars to the right buyer.... But I just don't have faith it'll be like a GT porsche car/ 458 speciale (which has very similar production numbers to the GTS) where the cars no matter what will increase. A GT porsche/speciale with 10,20k miles you'll have 100+ people lined up to pay a tad less than MSRP and not pay the collectors markups on sub 100 mile ones. Where as I think people who drive the GTS cars, will simply see a tad more value than its M4 counter part, but nothing like those above collectors cars. Quote:
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The one thing the GTS has going for it, production numbers, and the few unique styling items BMW hasn't offered up to the M4 owners (yet), you read the broacher about the wheels that was supposed to be an exclusive and now any joeblow can get those wheels on an M4 lol Last edited by M5Rlz; 09-26-2017 at 10:39 AM.. |
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09-26-2017, 04:05 PM | #25 |
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What is funny is that, as I am writing this post, there are 16 gts for sale in Germany with an asking price ranging from $195,000 to $295,000.
Crazy when you think that the competition, the Porsche GT3 is actually cheaper there. What gives? US dealers should ship them back to Germany! |
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I'm not familiar with other markets, but if my hazy memory is right Germany got about 80 GTSs. If that is the case, then roughly 20% are for sale right now. But we don't know how much they are actually selling for, they could be in the middle of a bubble or selling way below asking. What I do know is that markets outside the USA got very low volumes (China, France, etc.) which could be the reason for driving up the price. If 400 came to USA/Canada then Europe got much less than that for similar population. Sorry to rant, but too often I see people post appreciation comments only to have their expectations let down. Once you add insurance, tax, maintenance, etc. it's hard to come out ahead even if you sell your car for more than you bought. Happens on rennlist ALL the time. Look at 991.1 GT3s and 997 GT3RSs. All depreciate over time unless you have extremely low miles, but then what's the point? GTS should depreciate much less than normal M4s as a percentage of cost, enjoy that! |
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Being picked cost me nothing and I still have the allocation spot, invite, paperwork etc. I can live with that |
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BMW IMO has depreciated the M brand with too many varients, and really hard to differentiate the produces especially with the M4 and M3. It's become a big marketing company vs car company the last 10 to 15 years as another poster mentioned. I've owned them since 1999, and my M4 may be my last BMW as they special feel in steering and weight are going the wrong direction. I sold my M5 for the M4 as I wanted a smaller car as the M5 is massive, but freaking fast.
My problem is I bought a 991S in 2013 and was in love with the feel and steering, while not crazy fast but very good. From that I went into the GT cars which you will break even on selling in two years if you can get one. Back to BMW love the M4 aggressive looks, but BMW has more work to make the turbo cars sound better as AMG does well in that category. The GTS is a interesting car as BMW tried to make it special and limit production, and values dropped on a numbered car which is not normal. I would never buy any car to expect a return cars are sunk cost so enjoy them, and if they go up great win. Porsche guys are pissing there pants trying to fine the next GT3 RS 4.0 which was a 185k car now trading close to 500k, and some where discounted at the time of sale. It's a losing game trying to guess values. Enjoy what you have and drive it, and BMW please find your way again we liked the old driver cars you use to build. M3 e46 which I could buy one new. Last edited by Bimmer6; 09-12-2018 at 09:03 PM.. |
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They released way too many at once on the North American market... Considering the CS should come in at close to $100,000 (without carbon ceramics), the gts has really become a bargain. |
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At least, in case it never increases in value you will have had a blast driving it... You only live once. |
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BMW seems though to have taken it one step passed everyone else with how freely they'll throw around M. At least in my humble opinion. I don't really see this trend with American cars where they sell their signature brands Z06 package, Shelby package with Shelby everywhere, Hellcat package with little cats all over the car on your base model Charger lol Quote:
I think its a reasonable conclusion to draw that amongst the rest of the world (not including NA, as the people here can and have had the chance to buy them if they so desired and most sat). There are more than 300-500 BMW super fans who have the cash, and would pay a premium if not more for this car. Now is that number double or triple.. Who knows. Last edited by M5Rlz; 09-30-2017 at 08:04 PM.. |
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BMW does it with the S55 (M2 CS and M3/4), S63 (old/new M5, M6, X5M, X6M), and even the N74 (basically all Rolls and the 760). IMO, Sports car should have a special engine designed for that car only. |
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I think these cars will become a bargain soon or are now as all the other brands with similar theme go up in price. They are not investments but they are fun cars that will not lose too much value and maybe come back up in the future. Same thing happened with 1M.
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Interestingly, GTS prices keep going up in Europe. Even higher than my post from a week ago...(top asking price $300,000) |
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Could sub $200K be coming soon for the .1RS now that the .2GT3 is out and faster in every performance metric?
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