ASD

mynameisplayer · 08-04-2017, 02:57 PM

Coded it off yesterday, went for a drive. I need it back on! I don't have one of the anti-social exhaust systems, and you can't have the window down above 80-100 kph. You need it on to hear where you're at through the twisty bits!

dzvero · 08-04-2017, 02:59 PM

Dont do it , leave it off

mynameisplayer · 08-04-2017, 05:24 PM

I've got a comp pack. I don't know what normal M3/4 asd sounds like.

domino_z · 08-04-2017, 09:12 PM

I've tried this too, you lose all Intake noise

Once I get my awe Intake on I'll be keen to try it again

elisiX · 08-05-2017, 06:44 AM

Yup coded ASD off on my 17 LCI2 and it sounds terrible without it.

I believe there was an update at some point in the past year ‘fixing’ ASD. Perhaps this was a CP ASD version setup differently to work with the CP exhaust.

At the moment with it off, even with MPE, it’s so quiet inside with the windows up. The thing I notice most is complete lack of sound on downshifts in 3-7th gears.

With ASD off, it actually seems as though the MPE is quieter. Kept making me think it was the GTS DCT coding or something, but it’s gota be lack of ASD.

Need it back on ASAP.

Alpine* · 08-05-2017, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elisiX

Yup coded ASD off on my 17 LCI2 and it sounds terrible without it.

I believe there was an update at some point in the past year ‘fixing’ ASD. Perhaps this was a CP ASD version setup differently to work with the CP exhaust.

At the moment with it off, even with MPE, it’s so quiet inside with the windows up. The thing I notice most is complete lack of sound on downshifts in 3-7th gears.

With ASD off, it actually seems as though the MPE is quieter. Kept making me think it was the GTS DCT coding or something, but it’s gota be lack of ASD.

Need it back on ASAP.

Just do this

elisiX · 08-05-2017, 07:13 PM

I’ve got the MPE. The exhaust isn’t the issue.

The cars are so heavily insulated these days that unless you are windows down in a corridor, it’s hard to hear it properly.

ASD is intended to bring some of that atmosphere into the cabin. Historically ASD has sounded terribly artificial, but I didn’t really notice that with the M3. Still I coded it off because everyone swears you must.

I’ve since found out about the updates to the ASD software sound, and my car came with that updated version, which is likely why I didn’t mind it. Hence, I’ll have it coded on again.

drgmt · 08-05-2017, 08:07 PM

I don't understand all the ASD hate to be honest.

To me it brings the burbles and theatrics of the MPE into the cabin and makes it more enjoyable.

Too raw and noisy - people won't be happy - to comfortable and luxurious then the people will complain.

The ASD try's to find the middle. I just don't understand why BMW doesn't put the option to turn it off in idrive.

domino_z · 08-05-2017, 08:19 PM

This is where the Carly obd dongle and phone app comes in handy - no need to get out the laptop, coding is a 2 minute job on side of the road

Yes I remember the downshift throttle blip was gone with asd off, so strange

Asd in first gen was pretty bad, seems a lot better on zcp to point where I didn't even notice it when I first drove the car

Big fan of armytrix, did wonders for sound on my old s3, but on the f80 it sounds like crap. Mpe + zcp burbles is as good as you're going to get this engine to sound imo

MO3 · 08-05-2017, 09:38 PM

It has nothing to do with ZCP and non-ZCP! It's the software version your car is running. I've noticed the changes in ASD through three different software updates that my car had since picking it up in Feb 16. The most recent one is the best as it's much less fake!

I have the app to turn ASD off and to control the exhaust flap. I turned it off and turned it back on within 10 seconds!

domino_z · 09-01-2017, 06:30 AM

installed the awe intake last weekend, so i turned off the asd - have since removed the intake but that's a story for a sale thread coming soon lol

i wasn't a fan of having the asd off prior, but i pushed through a whole week with it off

i turned it back on on way home tonight and i absolutely hated the constant vibration/buzzing, i got used to how much quieter and comfortable the cabin is without it in efficiency mode just driving to/from work in a relaxed mood

it's also made me appreciate how good the zcp + mpe sounds in sport/sport+ - having a sunroof helps here, as with it tilted open you get that much needed exhaust sound inside the car

i'll be leaving it off now, and cycling the exhaust whenever i want more sound

mynameisplayer · 09-01-2017, 12:42 PM

The whole point of having it on - and I have no experience with modded intake or exhaust - is when you're pushing 10/10ths, you need the aural clues to shift points. Twisty corners demand your attention and you can't afford to be up on the limiter.

elisiX · 09-01-2017, 07:41 PM

I turned it back on last week after 2-3 weeks with it off.

The main reason I wanted it back on was to hear blips on downshift.

The car is much quieter inside, in a good way generally, but I hated not hearing the ‘car’.

I get that it’s fake noise, but it adds to the experience, even with MPE.

I’m sure I am wrong here, but I am sure the MPE seems louder with ASD on.

To me that’s the updated version of ASD being better integrated and rear focused.

I’ll be leaving it on as I don’t drive my M3 daily (GLC for that).

08-04-2017, 02:57 PM	#1
mynameisplayer SCHNELL 225 Rep 835 Posts Drives: F15 50i, E46, E90, Crafter van Join Date: May 2016 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	ASD Coded it off yesterday, went for a drive. I need it back on! I don't have one of the anti-social exhaust systems, and you can't have the window down above 80-100 kph. You need it on to hear where you're at through the twisty bits!
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08-04-2017, 02:59 PM	#2
dzvero Lieutenant Colonel 529 Rep 1,514 Posts Drives: 2015 M$4 F82 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CA iTrader: (2)	Dont do it , leave it off
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08-04-2017, 05:24 PM	#3
mynameisplayer SCHNELL 225 Rep 835 Posts Drives: F15 50i, E46, E90, Crafter van Join Date: May 2016 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I've got a comp pack. I don't know what normal M3/4 asd sounds like.
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08-04-2017, 09:12 PM	#4
domino_z Lieutenant Colonel 1240 Rep 1,972 Posts Drives: F-Pace SVR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I've tried this too, you lose all Intake noise Once I get my awe Intake on I'll be keen to try it again
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08-05-2017, 06:44 AM	#5
elisiX Major 687 Rep 1,328 Posts Drives: '20 X3M Competition Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Yup coded ASD off on my 17 LCI2 and it sounds terrible without it. I believe there was an update at some point in the past year ‘fixing’ ASD. Perhaps this was a CP ASD version setup differently to work with the CP exhaust. At the moment with it off, even with MPE, it’s so quiet inside with the windows up. The thing I notice most is complete lack of sound on downshifts in 3-7th gears. With ASD off, it actually seems as though the MPE is quieter. Kept making me think it was the GTS DCT coding or something, but it’s gota be lack of ASD. Need it back on ASAP.
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08-05-2017, 07:13 PM	#7
elisiX Major 687 Rep 1,328 Posts Drives: '20 X3M Competition Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I’ve got the MPE. The exhaust isn’t the issue. The cars are so heavily insulated these days that unless you are windows down in a corridor, it’s hard to hear it properly. ASD is intended to bring some of that atmosphere into the cabin. Historically ASD has sounded terribly artificial, but I didn’t really notice that with the M3. Still I coded it off because everyone swears you must. I’ve since found out about the updates to the ASD software sound, and my car came with that updated version, which is likely why I didn’t mind it. Hence, I’ll have it coded on again.
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08-05-2017, 08:07 PM	#8
drgmt Lieutenant Colonel 985 Rep 1,885 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Australia iTrader: (1)	I don't understand all the ASD hate to be honest. To me it brings the burbles and theatrics of the MPE into the cabin and makes it more enjoyable. Too raw and noisy - people won't be happy - to comfortable and luxurious then the people will complain. The ASD try's to find the middle. I just don't understand why BMW doesn't put the option to turn it off in idrive. Last edited by drgmt; 08-05-2017 at 08:12 PM..
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08-05-2017, 08:19 PM	#9
domino_z Lieutenant Colonel 1240 Rep 1,972 Posts Drives: F-Pace SVR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	This is where the Carly obd dongle and phone app comes in handy - no need to get out the laptop, coding is a 2 minute job on side of the road Yes I remember the downshift throttle blip was gone with asd off, so strange Asd in first gen was pretty bad, seems a lot better on zcp to point where I didn't even notice it when I first drove the car Big fan of armytrix, did wonders for sound on my old s3, but on the f80 it sounds like crap. Mpe + zcp burbles is as good as you're going to get this engine to sound imo
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08-05-2017, 09:38 PM	#10
MO3 Major 163 Rep 1,142 Posts Drives: DCT M3 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (5)	It has nothing to do with ZCP and non-ZCP! It's the software version your car is running. I've noticed the changes in ASD through three different software updates that my car had since picking it up in Feb 16. The most recent one is the best as it's much less fake! I have the app to turn ASD off and to control the exhaust flap. I turned it off and turned it back on within 10 seconds! __________________ Current: 2018 M3 \| individual Fire Orange Gone: 2016 M4 \| BSM
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09-01-2017, 06:30 AM	#11
domino_z Lieutenant Colonel 1240 Rep 1,972 Posts Drives: F-Pace SVR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	installed the awe intake last weekend, so i turned off the asd - have since removed the intake but that's a story for a sale thread coming soon lol i wasn't a fan of having the asd off prior, but i pushed through a whole week with it off i turned it back on on way home tonight and i absolutely hated the constant vibration/buzzing, i got used to how much quieter and comfortable the cabin is without it in efficiency mode just driving to/from work in a relaxed mood it's also made me appreciate how good the zcp + mpe sounds in sport/sport+ - having a sunroof helps here, as with it tilted open you get that much needed exhaust sound inside the car i'll be leaving it off now, and cycling the exhaust whenever i want more sound
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09-01-2017, 12:42 PM	#12
mynameisplayer SCHNELL 225 Rep 835 Posts Drives: F15 50i, E46, E90, Crafter van Join Date: May 2016 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	The whole point of having it on - and I have no experience with modded intake or exhaust - is when you're pushing 10/10ths, you need the aural clues to shift points. Twisty corners demand your attention and you can't afford to be up on the limiter.
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09-01-2017, 07:41 PM	#13
elisiX Major 687 Rep 1,328 Posts Drives: '20 X3M Competition Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I turned it back on last week after 2-3 weeks with it off. The main reason I wanted it back on was to hear blips on downshift. The car is much quieter inside, in a good way generally, but I hated not hearing the ‘car’. I get that it’s fake noise, but it adds to the experience, even with MPE. I’m sure I am wrong here, but I am sure the MPE seems louder with ASD on. To me that’s the updated version of ASD being better integrated and rear focused. I’ll be leaving it on as I don’t drive my M3 daily (GLC for that).
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