CarAdvice (Australia): Alfa Romeo Giulia QV v BMW M3 Competition v Mercedes-AMG C63 S

dmboone25 · 04-18-2017, 12:15 PM

The ride comfort is really a relative thing - I came to the F80 ZCP from a 981 CS, and really enjoy the adjustable nature of the suspension settings. Sport feels pretty nice for day to day, but I know my gf prefers the comfort setting when she's in the car.

That's just one example of the beauty of the M3 - it can be tailored and suited to a variety of conditions and preferences. I haven't driven the other two, so can't comment there - but thought that perspective might resonate with others on here too.

Hedoniste · 04-18-2017, 12:18 PM

I test drove the QV and I am truly hesitating to buy one. I will do an another test drive alone in the car. It is a great car but sure the tech of the M3 is way better (full LEDs, iDrive, head-up, TopView).

yousefnjr · 04-18-2017, 12:21 PM

Winner is the only one that comes with 6MT

jackkk · 04-18-2017, 02:18 PM

This cars just have different personalities to match different people.
The M3 is for those who are looking for track days and those who loves the dct feel, to be connected to the car all the time, I wold say - driving enthusiasts.
The C63S is for those who mostly use the car in the town or on the highways and do not need to go on track. Better interior, better sounding engine but less involving in the process of driving, but still very solid.
The Alfa is also great, but is for those who are looking not to be like everybody else, to find another style. To be honest it is a very stylish car with a very solid performance, but auto transmission can not involve in the process like dct or manual and the car makes equal or worse track times as M3 which has less power. The interior may be not the same quality as Mercedes but looks the most stylish and interesting.
I would take the M3 with Alfa interior (Merc quality) and Merc engine and it would be the greatest car ever + a small tune from me)
Jut my few cents.

white2abbit · 04-18-2017, 03:37 PM

Gorgeous colour on the M3.

Paul-Bracq-BMW · 04-18-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Winner is the only one that comes with 6MT

There are 2 of them, at least in Europe...

Dandanbmw · 04-18-2017, 06:54 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the Alfa's interior looks like a 90's Lexus?

Also the front end on the Alfa is horrid. I'd choose the M3 out of the 3 them as a all round car.

996ttelise · 04-19-2017, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kung Fu English

I thought this review was ok but clearly flawed.

They pointed out a bunch of stuff that either doesn't matter or can be changed or is just inaccurate.

They lauded the color choice of the bmw, but you can change it. They didn't mention CarPlay in the BMW at all. They called the merc very stiff but said it's the best for daily driving? They said the Guilia needs better tires for the track even though it comes with the most track capable tires of the bunch and they didn't try to explain why it was still slower than the BMW. They harped on the small middle seat of the BMW/merc not realizing that middle seat isn't for adults, it's so you can put a car seat in. They said it was a bad thing the BMW wasn't "relaxed" on city roads but then said it was a good thing the Alfa wasn't.

They made some good observations during their in depth review sections but their conclusion makes no sense based on what they said in the rest of the article.

This is becoming all too common with reviews, trying not to make a manufacturer mad. Take a stand and make a choice but your evidence should support your conclusion. This article fails at that.

It's from Australia. What'd you expect?

TokyoCarGuy · 04-19-2017, 10:43 AM

Yes, they are all great! Alfa is gorgeous, M3 looks amazing with those options, but AMG has the V8, so that's my winner. Plus it's probably most pleasant to own and drive every day.

Before you start bashing me... I still think that my E90 is an absolute winner

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Kung Fu English · 04-19-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

There are 2 of them, at least in Europe...

Yea but this was an AUS review and they didn't even bring it up, which seems a bit silly.

They were just like: these were the three cars we received so this is ONLY what we tested. The other options don't matter! The M3 looks ugly because it's purple!

modkrazy · 04-19-2017, 03:31 PM

What do you expect from an island full of criminals? You don't need surround view cameras and Park Assist on a get-away vehicle.

Paul-Bracq-BMW · 04-19-2017, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kung Fu English

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

There are 2 of them, at least in Europe...

Yea but this was an AUS review and they didn't even bring it up, which seems a bit silly.

They were just like: these were the three cars we received so this is ONLY what we tested. The other options don't matter! The M3 looks ugly because it's purple!

The Australian models are a lot like the UK models (rhd) in specs so no MT for the Alfa. I do like the purple on the M3 do to each his own...

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jackkk Lieutenant 73 Rep 549 Posts Drives: M3 F80 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Moscow iTrader: (0)	This cars just have different personalities to match different people. The M3 is for those who are looking for track days and those who loves the dct feel, to be connected to the car all the time, I wold say - driving enthusiasts. The C63S is for those who mostly use the car in the town or on the highways and do not need to go on track. Better interior, better sounding engine but less involving in the process of driving, but still very solid. The Alfa is also great, but is for those who are looking not to be like everybody else, to find another style. To be honest it is a very stylish car with a very solid performance, but auto transmission can not involve in the process like dct or manual and the car makes equal or worse track times as M3 which has less power. The interior may be not the same quality as Mercedes but looks the most stylish and interesting. I would take the M3 with Alfa interior (Merc quality) and Merc engine and it would be the greatest car ever + a small tune from me) Jut my few cents. __________________ F80 M3 SO/SO \|BM3 St.1 91 oct.\|Cattless DPs\|Tractive P'n'P\|Brembo 6pot\|Rays G25 with CUP2 tires\|GTS coding\| 1M VO FBO (KW DDC) PTF st.2+ sold e90 335i FBO jb4 sold
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