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      03-19-2017, 08:56 AM   #1
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Talking question about "Detaling" my 400 mile car, lol

Hey guys. So I had black car my entire life and got Alpine White and love the change.

Question is, car us brand new and if I look closely I can see a lot of scratches etc which is fine because I enjoy detailing.

Anyway, its not overkill to Clay, Polish, wax brand new two week old car right? Probably a good time to do it?

Also, I always forget. Glaze after final wax or skip glaze all together?

Wash
Clay
Polish
Wax/glaze?
Then finish off with Adams QD?
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      03-19-2017, 09:08 AM   #2
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Brand new cars should get the following process.
Wash
Decontamination (Iron X )
Clay
Wash again
One step polish to remove light marring assuming that's all you have.
Wax, Sealant or I'd recommend Ceramic Coating.

Glaze is a filler to fill in light scratches and not move them.

Hope this helps.
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      03-19-2017, 09:11 AM   #3
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It does, thanks
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      03-19-2017, 12:10 PM   #4
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Definitely not overkill - it's the best time to do it!

If you have scratches/swirls you'll need to include the polish step, otherwise you could skip it. Either way, finish with a long-lasting synthetic sealant - there are a lot of good ones on the market these days.

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      03-19-2017, 05:57 PM   #5
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Do it right from the start and it will be easier to maintain yourself
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      03-26-2017, 10:16 AM   #6
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I'd have to agree on doing it early. When I took delivery of my M3, I told my sales rep not to remove the stickers or detail it on site (they run it straight through an auto-wash). Needless to say, he looked at me like I was crazy but said "You're the boss" lol. My process was; first obviously removing the factory stickers and covers, foam wash 3x, chenille mitt wash, lube and clay, second wash, followed up by wax.
I went over the paint (BSM) pretty thoroughly with some pretty high powered led's looking for surface abrasions, and opted to skip the polish for now, as I found nothing concerning. If you've got surface marring or anything that looks like it needs correction, a polish will take care of that pretty straight away. If you aren't comfortable working with a DA Polisher, I'd recommend taking it to a professional to handle that portion.
Ceramic coating your wheels might be another idea for you. Being that the car is like new and the wheels most likely have minimal dust buildup, now would be a good time to iron X the wheels and get some sort of coating on there (cquartz, nanolex, etc.)
All this up front work will make your weekly/bi-weekly washes that much easier when you have a good baseline to work from. I envy your white car, I had a MW M4 and now I have a BSM M3...god that thing gets dirty by looking at it, I swear.
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You can glaze before wax for more depth & shine. Glaze after would remove wax.
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Hey guys. So I had black car my entire life and got Alpine White and love the change.

Question is, car us brand new and if I look closely I can see a lot of scratches etc which is fine because I enjoy detailing.

Anyway, its not overkill to Clay, Polish, wax brand new two week old car right? Probably a good time to do it?

Also, I always forget. Glaze after final wax or skip glaze all together?

Wash
Clay
Polish
Wax/glaze?
Then finish off with Adams QD?
Deff not overkill. At the very least it needs to be decon'd and clayed.
Adam's is having a 15% off sale right now...not sure when it ends but maybe pick up a detailing starter pack if you dont have the gear already.
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Deff not overkill. At the very least it needs to be decon'd and clayed.
Adam's is having a 15% off sale right now...not sure when it ends but maybe pick up a detailing starter pack if you dont have the gear already.
Why on earth would you clay brand new paint. Sounds to me like you work for Adams.
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Why on earth would you clay brand new paint. Sounds to me like you work for Adams.
Most brand new paint has actually already been through a lot, collected rail dust, etc...I agree with folks on this post, claying the brand new car is a must.
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Why on earth would you clay brand new paint. Sounds to me like you work for Adams.
Its actually only one step in a process that should be performed on a brand new vehicle. Those vehicles have traveled long distances, sometimes by boat, mostly by truck. They are picking up all the same contaminants that a driven car does.

A true iron-remover on new paint would show a great amount of embedded particulates, especially on this white, because it will show more.

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Its actually only one step in a process that should be performed on a brand new vehicle. Those vehicles have traveled long distances, sometimes by boat, mostly by truck. They are picking up all the same contaminants that a driven car does.

A true iron-remover on new paint would show a great amount of embedded particulates, especially on this white, because it will show more.

Bruce
Claying a new car, travelling long distance or not is a 100% conplete waste of money. There are no embedded contaminants in the paint. It is obvious you are trying to sell product.

My new came long distance and all it needed was a polish and wax and the paint is as smooth as glass.
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Most brand new paint has actually already been through a lot, collected rail dust, etc...I agree with folks on this post, claying the brand new car is a must.
Anyone who clays a new car is throwing away money. Anyone who says a new car should be clayed is trying to sell product.
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So I guess the contamination on my car was a figment of my imagination and the rough paint was just me being stupid and wanting throw money away. Car was hand washed multiple times and the rough paint wouldn't go away. Decontamination, clay bar, and ceramic coating was the route I chose and it worked perfectly.

No I didn't throw my money away because it was a needed step and no I'm not trying to sell a damn thing. You're aggressive opinions are absolutely ridiculous. Maybe some people just choose to take an extra step in caring for their new car. The only thing "obvious" is you being a keyboard cowboy with no real contribution to the post.

And no EAL doesn't work for Adams. He just chooses to pass along information as an actual helpful contributor to the forum. And who gives a shit if he did work for them.
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So I guess the contamination on my car was a figment of my imagination and the rough paint was just me being stupid and wanting throw money away. Car was hand washed multiple times and the rough paint wouldn't go away. Decontamination, clay bar, and ceramic coating was the route I chose and it worked perfectly.

No I didn't throw my money away because it was a needed step and no I'm not trying to sell a damn thing. You're aggressive opinions are absolutely ridiculous. Maybe some people just choose to take an extra step in caring for their new car. The only thing "obvious" is you being a keyboard cowboy with no real contribution to the post.

And no EAL doesn't work for Adams. He just chooses to pass along information as an actual helpful contributor to the forum. And who gives a shit if he did work for them.
I think this proves my point nicely. Thanks for sharing.

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Anyone who clays a new car is throwing away money. Anyone who says a new car should be clayed is trying to sell product.
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I did a paint decontamination after ~1,000 miles. I was surprised how much iron was embedded in my paint. My car turned bright purple like bb1857. I also clayed the car and was surprised how dirty the clay got. I highly recommend both steps!
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So I guess the contamination on my car was a figment of my imagination and the rough paint was just me being stupid and wanting throw money away. Car was hand washed multiple times and the rough paint wouldn't go away. Decontamination, clay bar, and ceramic coating was the route I chose and it worked perfectly.

No I didn't throw my money away because it was a needed step and no I'm not trying to sell a damn thing. You're aggressive opinions are absolutely ridiculous. Maybe some people just choose to take an extra step in caring for their new car. The only thing "obvious" is you being a keyboard cowboy with no real contribution to the post.

And no EAL doesn't work for Adams. He just chooses to pass along information as an actual helpful contributor to the forum. And who gives a shit if he did work for them.
Yep, throwing away money. If your car,was really contaminamed as you say new from the dealer why on earth would you accept it like that. If it was as bad as you say then yes, you are bs because bmw wouldn't release a new car with paint in that condition. I call bs that you purchased a brand new car with paint in that condition.

And i can give my opinion to others and pass along helpful information just as you can give yours. Who do you think you are to bad mouth my opinion. Who?

New cars do not need to be clayed. A good 5.00 bottle of a off the shelf polish and wax is all it needs with a nice soft cotton cloth.

Sorry you purchased a defective paint job.

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I think this proves my point nicely. Thanks for sharing.

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Ah, proves nothing. The only thing you proved was most likely you are trying to unload product.
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Ah, proves nothing. The only thing you proved was most likely you are trying to unload product.
I am not trying to unload anything.

You cannot see the iron deposits in paint unless it is so bad that the paint is rusting thru. You obviously have a strong opinion on your side and I have a strong opinion on my side, but saying that all it needs is a cleaner polish is miss-informing and wrong.

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I am not trying to unload anything.

You cannot see the iron deposits in paint unless it is so bad that the paint is rusting thru. You obviously have a strong opinion on your side and I have a strong opinion on my side, but saying that all it needs is a cleaner polish is miss-informing and wrong.

Bruce
The only ones who are promoting iron deposits and rust in brand new automobile paint are those who sell detailing products.

This is not mis-information.

I am only giving my opinion. You are certainly entitled to yours.

Caveat emptor.
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