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      08-17-2017, 08:56 PM   #111
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I thought wireless charging was standard starting with 2017s?
It was not.

See 2017 BMW M3 and M4 Pricing and Ordering Guide http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272046
Oh it's comes with executive package ok bc the build sheet of a car I'm looking to buy doesn't mention it..
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Really hoping for Michelin PSS. Is there any math by which they choose to give you one over the other?
Get the stock 18 inch or the comp 20 inch rims and you'll get MPSS. If you get the 19 inch it's a toss up.
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A dealer in thinking of buying my car from said that apple car play can be bought from bmw assist? Is that true? The actual build sheet doesn't have it..
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      08-18-2017, 12:09 PM   #114
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A dealer in thinking of buying my car from said that apple car play can be bought from bmw assist? Is that true? The actual build sheet doesn't have it..
Yes.

Search next time. Here you go: Guide: How to add Apple CarPlay on your BMW http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1389761

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Apple CarPlay retrofit avialable http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1364954
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A dealer in thinking of buying my car from said that apple car play can be bought from bmw assist? Is that true? The actual build sheet doesn't have it..
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Thanks also this car an msrp of 75k.. he's giving it to me for 73.5k good or can get better?

Doesn't have driver assists plus but not sure if I care
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Thanks also this car an msrp of 75k.. he's giving it to me for 73.5k good or can get better?

Doesn't have driver assists plus but not sure if I care
Invoice is right around $71k so he is giving it to you at $2.5k above invoice. Not too bad by I would counter with $72.5k.

No you do not have DAP, but that is not really necessary if you will not use the option.
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Thanks also this car an msrp of 75k.. he's giving it to me for 73.5k good or can get better?

Doesn't have driver assists plus but not sure if I care
Invoice is right around $71k so he is giving it to you at $2.5k above invoice. Not too bad by I would counter with $72.5k.

No you do not have DAP, but that is not really necessary if you will not use the option.
I'm sorry but where are you getting 71k from?
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I'm sorry but where are you getting 71k from?
I have the wholesale guide
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I have the wholesale guide
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Found a FY18 M3 at my local dealer list $77K and they offered $5K off MSRP is this a good deal?
We need more numbers than that. They could easily be recouping a few grand through an inflated MF (if you're leasing) and additional fees.
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Can you share the wholesale guide please?
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We need more numbers than that. They could easily be recouping a few grand through an inflated MF (if you're leasing) and additional fees.
This is a purchase not leasing.
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Can you share the wholesale guide please?
I cannot as it is a confidential document. However, if you PM me your configurations, I can let you the invoice for each one.
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Can you share the wholesale guide please?
Use the below link to calculate invoice. It's easier to know how to calculate so you can get to the number on the fly without having to rely on someone. The sad part is if you spend enough time with the calculations you will memorize invoice on the car and all options. Ask me how I know.

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This is a purchase not leasing.
On price alone it sounds like a decent deal for an M3. Somewhere between $500-$1000 over invoice. If you're happy with the color/options and the dealer fees aren't outrageous I would get it.
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On price alone it sounds like a decent deal for an M3. Somewhere between $500-$1000 over invoice. If you're happy with the color/options and the dealer fees aren't outrageous I would get it.
The pricing is so tempted this car got everything I needed, executive & premium packages plus the black 666 wheels, Apple Carplay.

Listed is $77500 and they will take $5K off for this deal.
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The pricing is so tempted this car got everything I needed, executive & premium packages plus the black 666 wheels, Apple Carplay.

Listed is $77500 and they will take $5K off for this deal.
I agree with Firedown1 -- why pause if it has everything you want at a killer deal. I made a play on a car two months ago that had a nice deal like this and more than enough options. I pushed to get more off and to my surprise, they sold the car to someone else. I ended up doing a special build so now I'm waiting on my car -- which is not a big deal for me given the cars I already have. Life is short so I say if all boxes are checked, get the car.
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I have the wholesale guide
Can you share the wholesale guide please?
When negotiating you should require your dealer print out the wholesale version of the vehicle inquiry report and give it to you. It looks the exact same as the one they commonly use with msrp next to each option but includes the invoice price by option AND any "BMW training/service fees" built into the invoice.

It's a layer of transparency that an honest dealer should have no qualms about sharing. Just can't be afraid to tell them you don't trust them without seeing it. It's not personal... just business
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When negotiating you should require your dealer print out the wholesale version of the vehicle inquiry report and give it to you. It looks the exact same as the one they commonly use with msrp next to each option but includes the invoice price by option AND any "BMW training/service fees" built into the invoice.

It's a layer of transparency that an honest dealer should have no qualms about sharing. Just can't be afraid to tell them you don't trust them without seeing it. It's not personal... just business
This is what I do. If they do not give me the VIR with invoice prices I kindly say no thank you and walk away.
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It's a layer of transparency that an honest dealer should have no qualms about sharing. Just can't be afraid to tell them you don't trust them without seeing it. It's not personal... just business
This is what I do. If they do not give me the VIR with invoice prices I kindly say no thank you and walk away.
Same here.... only way to to play the game
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Will make the move this weekend once my F30 is back from body shop for minor repair on bumper. Can't wait test drove on last Friday and this car is awesome beyond my expectation.
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