09-18-2023, 07:32 AM | #23 |
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I chose the MCS 2-way non-remote setup because I wanted something that I could install relatively easily, and didn't want to have to worry about the added variable of dealing with nitrogen, canister pressures, etc.
Obviously, those things have their advantages. My understanding is that the added volume of the system (and when combined with a lower gas pressure) can afford better ride compliance (eg, on street). Given I went with high spring rates, in retrospect I wonder whether I should have gone the remote route, but still like the idea of the simplicity of a non-remote setup (fewer things to go wrong). |
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09-18-2023, 08:16 AM | #24 | |
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this was authored by a very competitive autocrosser many years ago and go over some really good car set up basics including suspension and shocks. I would say the info regarding specific brands is really outdated but the basics are the same. |
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09-18-2023, 08:21 AM | #25 | |
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I don't think you can go wrong with any of the brands mentioned here. having good support either through the company themselves or reputable shock servicers, especially close or local is really helpful. you just have to find the right fit within those brands. as I mentioned before, if you live in NYC and still need to drive the car in winter, you may need to re-evaluate your goals and realize there's going to be compromises. high end track components and driving in NE winters usually aren't a good combination, imo. |
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09-18-2023, 09:54 AM | #26 |
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If your driving in winter you should look at something like Bilstein Clubsports, as they will be TUV tested for salt, snow etc. and have covers to protect the damper. They are also an inverted monotube design which is superior to the stuff MCS, JRZ, Moton etc. are putting out. KW's top competition line are also inverted monotubes.
Personally having owned a set of MCS 2WNR on my F87 M2C, and currently MCS 2WR on my GT4 I think MCS are a bit overrated. They are good certainly, but there's nothing really magical about them in my experience especially for the price. |
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09-18-2023, 09:57 AM | #27 | |
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If you were to do it over again, what coilovers would you get on your F87 and GT4? |
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09-18-2023, 10:19 AM | #28 | |
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On an f8x I'd be tempted to try the Bilsteins, or for a bit less money I'd get custom Ohlins R&T from Barry at 3dmmotorsport. Ohlins R&T dampers are really incredible for the price. Both of these kits will handle winter much better than the boutique brands. Otherwise there are other goods options mentioned in this thread (MCS, Ohlins TTX) depending on your budget. On the GT4 I would try the 3-way Manthey kit which is KW. |
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09-18-2023, 02:39 PM | #30 |
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From the Bilstein Clubsport product description: "Bilstein 3-layer coating system, developed especially with threaded ride height adjustable kits in mind, guarantees high-quality, enduring corrosion protection. The special zinc alloy ensures excellent adherence to the base material, and forms the basis for longlasting corrosion protection. The middle coating transforms the zinc layer into a closed-formation, homogenous surface. Not only is the top coat aesthetically pleasing, it also provides additional, long-term protection against mechanical wear and corrosion. Endurance tests to DIN 50021 SS also testify to this: for Bilstein material, being subjected to salt spray for over 600 hours is like water off a duck’s back – compare that with the 418 hours boasted by stainless steel."
Would love to hear from anyone who has these on their car. Hard to find reviews online, checked Rennlist as well. Leaning towards MCS - well-reviewed and local support. Will just avoid driving during the salty parts of winter and find another way to drive outside the city. |
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09-18-2023, 02:59 PM | #31 |
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You could chat with the MCS people, they are very friendly. I recall they had changed/added coatings to make their kit more winter friendly.
There are a few good suspension systems, and sometimes the reason you don't see more -for example- KW Competition kits in the USA is not because they aren't good, but instead because they aren't local so everything is a hassle. I've had four or five MCS systems in M cars and can't see myself switching. |
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09-18-2023, 03:07 PM | #32 |
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I've enjoyed my JRZ RS two coils so far, a little on the stiffer side and they've become a little noisy due to the spherical bearings. I was told to clean and apply WD40, but I've never had. Has anyone done that?
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I didn't mean to infer that you were lumping TTX with other multi-tube dampers. I meant for it to clarify and support for your recommendation.
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