Track - Staggered or Square?

[FTS]

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[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Thanks for posting! The 275/35/18 looks like 2" wheel gap in the front. Is that right or just the pick?

The 275/35R18 NT01 has about a ¼" smaller radius that the stock PSS in front, so yes it increases the fender gap slightly.

[JNoSol]

Just updated "ideal" 18" and 19" staggered setup sizes on the OP. "Ideal" means the front and rear have the same rotational diameter and very close to stock height (661mm-671mm).

For my setup, I will go with staggered. As long as I don't use directional tires, I can still rotate tires left to right. Our cars don't have an issue with understeer, so 255 or 265 front is good enough.

I can't decide 18" or 19" yet. Logic: 18" will cost $200 less per set of tires. 19" looks way better and will clear future brake upgrades. Help!!!
Hint: They will be strong, light, and bronze.

[shamun160]

Planning to order:
Apex EC7 18x10 et 33 (10 mm spacer in front)
Nitto Nt01s
Front 275/40
Rear 305/35

Do you see any issues with fitment or otherwise. Stock suspension with edc.

Thanks for your feedback!

[shamun160]

Originally Posted by shamun160

Planning to order:
Apex EC7 18x10 et 33 (10 mm spacer in front)
Nitto Nt01s
Front 275/40
Rear 305/35

Do you see any issues with fitment or otherwise. Stock suspension with edc.

Thanks for your feedback!

Foiled.....apex won't have the the et33s in for almost 2 months!

Any suggestions for alternative setups? I would prefer to go with a wider rear setup. What about similarly priced wheels from another manufacturer?

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by shamun160

Planning to order:
Apex EC7 18x10 et 33 (10 mm spacer in front)
Nitto Nt01s
Front 275/40
Rear 305/35

Do you see any issues with fitment or otherwise. Stock suspension with edc.

Thanks for your feedback!

Do you ever want a true square setup (all 4 tires being the same size)? If not, go 9.5" ET22 front and 10.0" ET33 rear. This looks nicer and doesn't require spacer.

For tire size, go 265/40 or 255/40 front and 295/35 rear. 305 is too stretched out for 10.0" wheels.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by shamun160

Foiled.....apex won't have the the et33s in for almost 2 months!

Any suggestions for alternative setups? I would prefer to go with a wider rear setup. What about similarly priced wheels from another manufacturer?

Forgestar is your next best bet. They too have a lead time, certain vendors may have them in stock.

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I am guessing you are asking pressure not temp...

Started them at 30psi cold and kept them at 39psi hot.

yep, i meant PSI.. been a long few days and that post was a multi-task... hehe. thanks, gives me somewhere to start. you should post some photos of your setup when you get a chance if you don't mind!

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Thanks for posting! The 275/35/18 looks like 2" wheel gap in the front. Is that right or just the pick?

it's a huge gap.. makes me think i should get a leveling kit like they make for a pickup truck. ha! some mentioned using a "45" sidewall to help fill it better but i think that may create issues in the back? not sure though. i don't care too much about wheel gap on a track setup. they're more flush, more gap... win/lose so it's a wash i guess. we'll see how they do on an 80+ degree lapping session. first tires of this caliber (and car) so we'll see how it goes!n

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

Forgestar is your next best bet. They too have a lead time, certain vendors may have them in stock.

I am still waiting for my Forgestar F14's that I ordered in January!

[FTS]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I am still waiting for my Forgestar F14's that I ordered in January!

Ouch! If I remember right Forgestar was in the $5K range for a set, is that right? I really think you guys need to look into CCWs, they gave me 3 weeks and I got them in 3 weeks ($3900 shipped), completely custom made. Although, if I knew I could fit 12" in the rear, I would have ordered those, but 11s are doing very well thus far.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

Just updated "ideal" 18" and 19" staggered setup sizes on the OP. "Ideal" means the front and rear have the same rotational diameter and very close to stock height (661mm-671mm).

For my setup, I will go with staggered. As long as I don't use directional tires, I can still rotate tires left to right. Our cars don't have an issue with understeer, so 255 or 265 front is good enough.

I can't decide 18" or 19" yet. Logic: 18" will cost $200 less per set of tires. 19" looks way better and will clear future brake upgrades. Help!!!
Hint: They will be strong, light, and bronze.

Do note that the stock rolling diameter is 2.3% greater in the rear. Running the same diameter front and rear will increase DSC/MDM intervention as it will sense the rear wheels spinning faster than it expects. Not an issue if you run DSC off though .

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by evanescent03

... you should post some photos of your setup when you get a chance if you don't mind!

Will do next time I put them on

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by FTS

Ouch! If I remember right Forgestar was in the $5K range for a set, is that right? I really think you guys need to look into CCWs, they gave me 3 weeks and I got them in 3 weeks ($3900 shipped), completely custom made. Although, if I knew I could fit 12" in the rear, I would have ordered those, but 11s are doing very well thus far.

Forgestars are not much more than the Apex wheels and I could get 11's in the offsets that I needed.I could get Forgelines for about $4000 and are an excellent wheel!

[heckyeahbro69]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Do note that the stock rolling diameter is 2.3% greater in the rear. Running the same diameter front and rear will increase DSC/MDM intervention as it will sense the rear wheels spinning faster than it expects. Not an issue if you run DSC off though .

I had some serious mdm intervention running my 275 35 18 square setup. euro mdm cured the issue.

[shamun160]

Originally Posted by FTS

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Code seems to have expired. Tried to checkout and it didn't work.
Also discount tire is offering $40 off on their website which gets it to about the same as the sale price.

[shamun160]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I am still waiting for my Forgestar F14's that I ordered in January!

Guess I will run an et25 square setup for a while until a better rear setup is available.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

Forgestars are not much more than the Apex wheels and I could get 11's in the offsets that I needed.I could get Forgelines for about $4000 and are an excellent wheel!

BC Forged is way less than $4k. Real forged wheels. The RS41 is beautiful.

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by shamun160

Foiled.....apex won't have the the et33s in for almost 2 months!

Any suggestions for alternative setups? I would prefer to go with a wider rear setup. What about similarly priced wheels from another manufacturer?

You could do a 19" staggered setup if they have those in stock. You'd have to run R888 instead of Nitto though. About $200 more per tire set, might not matter to you depending how often you track.

Fwiw the Apex 19 x 9.5 ET 22 with R888 265/35/19 looks about perfect up front with stock suspension.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

You could do a 19" staggered setup if they have those in stock. You'd have to run R888 instead of Nitto though. About $200 more per tire set, might not matter to you depending how often you track.

Fwiw the Apex 19 x 9.5 ET 22 with R888 265/35/19 looks about perfect up front with stock suspension.

If you go 19s, Vorsteiner looks much better look than Apex. A little more than $2k a set.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Do note that the stock rolling diameter is 2.3% greater in the rear. Running the same diameter front and rear will increase DSC/MDM intervention as it will sense the rear wheels spinning faster than it expects. Not an issue if you run DSC off though .

Originally Posted by heckyeahbro69

I had some serious mdm intervention running my 275 35 18 square setup. euro mdm cured the issue.

Good feedback. I guess I may need to look at 265/35/19 front and 295/35/19 rear or 275/30/19 front and 295/30/19 or 305/30/19 rear.

Do you guys know if K&W CS can keep the rear at near stock height? The V3 would slam the car, even at the lowest setting.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by shamun160

Guess I will run an et25 square setup for a while until a better rear setup is available.

Try BC. They're having a shipment coming in, might be less wait than you think. $3,600 or less on a set of real forged wheels isn't bad. Plus, they're custom for our vehicles.

Apex 18x10 ET25 are fine, might rub with slick tires and lowered. You don't need spacer. If you plan on running wider tires than 275 in the rear, then go ET43 with 15mm spacer front (since ET33 are out).

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1120504