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      05-23-2018, 08:34 PM   #1
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Current M3 discounts?

Anyone have any idea what discounts are to be had currently from the remaing stock of 2018 F80s still out there?

Since the new G80 is just around the corner I’d think the deals on 2018 F80s going into Memorial Day would be better than pervious years because they are phasing out to next years new G80 arrival. What percentage discounts should we expect to see from dealerships on current inventory?

And as a follow up question, what kind of 1st depreciation hit can we expect on a 2018 F80 after the 2019 G80 comes out? Which is relative to my first question, thus expecting a bigger discount.
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Anyone have any idea what discounts are to be had currently from the remaing stock of 2018 F80s still out there?

Since the new G80 is just around the corner I’d think the deals on 2018 F80s going into Labor Day would be better than pervious years because they are phasing out to next years new G80 arrival. What percentage discounts should we expect to see from dealerships on current inventory?

And as a follow up question, what kind of 1st depreciation hit can we expect on a 2018 F80 after the 2019 G80 comes out? Which is relative to my first question, thus expecting a bigger discount.
The new g80 m3 isn't coming out in 2019 . And most 2018 m3 have already been sold so it'll be hard to find a good deal .
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The new g80 m3 isn't coming out in 2019 . And most 2018 m3 have already been sold so it'll be hard to find a good deal .
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      05-24-2018, 09:35 AM   #5
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The new g80 m3 isn't coming out in 2019 . And most 2018 m3 have already been sold so it'll be hard to find a good deal .
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There are 7 M3s sitting on lots around me within a 50 mile radius.
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There are 7 M3s sitting on lots around me within a 50 mile radius.
How many dealers though? 1? 2? 3? Even if it was only 2, one with 3 and one with 4, those dealers know they aren't getting another M3 for a long long time. They know the demand still exists so they don't need to have a blow out deal.

Discounts seem to be no different than they have been in the past, right around invoice.
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FYI, my two biggest local dealers, each has one M3 on the lot. They are the same cars, easy to remember when one is AW and the other BS in color; meaning either the demand drops to zero in my area or they are really holding on for higher selling price. I think it's the latter.

No question there are M3 on dealer lots, but is there any great deals out there?
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I mean honestly, you should start at around 1k over invoice and then currently there is a 3k if you finance with bmw and you can get some more fleet discounts and stuff.
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I found a car on a lot I was interested in, but I already have an order going into production week 26. I called the dealership and talked to a salesman. Told him I had an order already with a competing dealer and that I'd cancel my order if he gave me this car for invoice price. He went and talked to the manager and told me he could do $500 over invoice for the car on the lot. I decided not to take it and kept my order, but that's how you negotiate.

Moral to the story: Have some leverage when you negotiate.
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I’ve found one a little over 9% so far, it’s the best I’ve seen. Was hoping for a little more off seeing I’m buying an F80 end of production cycle.
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I’ve found one a little over 9% so far, it’s the best I’ve seen. Was hoping for a little more off seeing I’m buying an F80 end of production cycle.
9% sounds like a good deal to me given the low supply and the fact that it has been confirmed that production ends for the regular M3 in June 2018.
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This is the current inventory number (not comprehensive, some dealers don't show up here, but a good indicator nonetheless).

It's lower than it used to be, but there are still a lot of cars out there. You still have some leverage to negotiate, you just have to ask different dealers.

Back in early March there were close to 325 cars and it has been going down progressively from there. In short, the stock has gone down.

Bear in mind that the stock decrease has accelerated substantially in the last 30 days, so I would look for a car ASAP
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Summer time around the corner, people want to buy cars!!
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If you can find someone to give you one at invoice, get it NOW.

That was not the case in December or January in my markets.

Now remember, there are lots of over speced M3s out there ($80K+) and those probably have been sitting around and people are willing to get rid of them.

Oh and to be clear, I was getting invoice and below invoice in December - but that was after the $4-$5K in BMW cash - so not really invoice

and - some of the dealers I talked to are well aware that there are no M3s scheduled for production after June so these cars are going to be harder and harder to find.
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Anyone have any idea what discounts are to be had currently from the remaing stock of 2018 F80s still out there?

Since the new G80 is just around the corner I’d think the deals on 2018 F80s going into Memorial Day would be better than pervious years because they are phasing out to next years new G80 arrival. What percentage discounts should we expect to see from dealerships on current inventory?

And as a follow up question, what kind of 1st depreciation hit can we expect on a 2018 F80 after the 2019 G80 comes out? Which is relative to my first question, thus expecting a bigger discount.
Keep in mind, the new G80 M3 probably won't be available until early/mid 2020
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does anyone know what market/discounts were like during the e90 M3 being phased out while the e92 coupe M3 continued to be produced along side it? We’re there heavy discounts on both cars?
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does anyone know what market/discounts were like during the e90 M3 being phased out while the e92 coupe M3 continued to be produced along side it? We’re there heavy discounts on both cars?
This is a good question, if anyone has any info, on the hit the E90 took the year the F80 came out? It can’t be just a normal depreciation cycle year. I’m guessing a substantial drop then a leveling off going forward. Thus might be the right time to buy a previous gen model in the used market.
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Anyone have any idea what discounts are to be had currently from the remaing stock of 2018 F80s still out there?

Since the new G80 is just around the corner I'd think the deals on 2018 F80s going into Memorial Day would be better than pervious years because they are phasing out to next years new G80 arrival. What percentage discounts should we expect to see from dealerships on current inventory?

And as a follow up question, what kind of 1st depreciation hit can we expect on a 2018 F80 after the 2019 G80 comes out? Which is relative to my first question, thus expecting a bigger discount.
Keep in mind, the new G80 M3 probably won't be available until early/mid 2020
Yep. Based on what happened with the F80, expect the G series M3 to come out in the summer of 2020 as a 2021 model.
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does anyone know what market/discounts were like during the e90 M3 being phased out while the e92 coupe M3 continued to be produced along side it? We're there heavy discounts on both cars?
The E90 was out of production long before the F80 came out. The E92 went out of production shortly before the F80 and F82 debut. The E90 m3 had very few discounts throughout its life cycle because it was extremely low production while the E92 had decent incentives up until the last 6 months before EOP....at that point there was a mad rush to get one of the last v8 M3's and BMW saw that and yanked incentives.
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The E90 was out of production long before the F80 came out. The E92 went out of production shortly before the F80 and F82 debut. The E90 m3 had very few discounts throughout its life cycle because it was extremely low production while the E92 had decent incentives up until the last 6 months before EOP....at that point there was a mad rush to get one of the last v8 M3's and BMW saw that and yanked incentives.
The idea of the last great BMW M3 V8 might have had something to do with that, moving to an I6T was not looked upon as a great move initially.
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Then if the market changes in 2 years time (Alfa, Benz, Audi get into HP war), that 500hp on G80 Mx may not be barely enough and to keep up and stay safe, BMW may have to switch to AWD only (just like they did on M5 F90), if this rumor mills starts to take shape it may trigger mad rush on F8x M4 as well. Never know.
or even no more MT on G8X

hard to predict what's going to happen.
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Then if the market changes in 2 years time (Alfa, Benz, Audi get into HP war), that 500hp on G80 Mx may not be barely enough and to keep up and stay safe, BMW may have to switch to AWD only (just like they did on M5 F90), if this rumor mills starts to take shape it may trigger mad rush on F8x M4 as well. Never know.
or even no more MT on G8X

hard to predict what's going to happen.
Maybe but don’t forget in the case of the new M5 you can switch between AWD and RWD and variations in between, I suspect the same wil be available for the next AWD M3. Now as to the MT going forward, that might be a point of attraction if it’s ever announced to be gone in the year to come.
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