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      10-20-2010, 10:44 AM   #45
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I can see a marketing guy come to a meeting and say "HEY the S4/RS4 have AWD but our M series don't. We're losing out on market share!!!" and the management go "harumph humm hmph marketing guy has a point" and the engineers going "wtf is wrong with you people" and then next year there being an M3 xDrive.
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      10-20-2010, 11:38 AM   #46
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I have never heard this?! I ve been to the 1/4 mile track a couple times, and the xi's were consistently running upper 13's with tunes.

I have driven the New S4 a couple times... I will admit the launch and second gear pull harder than my car. (After that its a wrap for them) Also, the GT-R will snap your neck in half off the line. Saying this, it is possible to gain a tremendous 60' advantage w/an AWD system. As far as getting the same satisfaction when turning traction off... I doubt it. BMW is all about feel on the track, who remebers when it was M3 vs. RS4 in american lemans (i think), and the Audi would ALWAYS swing wide and go off track.. blame it on AWD. Picture the Rahal/letterman GT2 M3 with AWD.. cause it would translate in to race cars. AWD.. NAHHH dont think so.
Is your 335i stock? I'd like to see you pull on a stock S4 in third gear, I'm sorry, but in gear my friends stock 335 doesn't pull on my S5 and the S5 is considerably slower than our S4.

Back on topic. Personally, being an Audi fan awaiting a ZCP E90 M3 I think this would be awesome. Who cares what the M division is shooting towards...more competition in the car world will only further create better cars. If BMW can produce a RWD offering and an AWD offering that have similar times that would be great.
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I would love to see an AWD M3 come to market.. BMW has something for everyone
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Even if it were an option, I'd rather go with Audi for quattro than BMW xdrive.

I also don't understand all of the comments saying "I would have bought an M3 if it were AWD..." because of snow. Give me a break. I've driven M3s now for 8 winters and regularly take my current M3 through snow storms and up into the mountains here to go skiing. Good aggressive snows are all you need, and you don't give up the great balance and RWD attitude that the M3 offers over AWD cars. Compromising and buying a car for the 2-3 weeks out of 52 where there may be a lot of snow on the ground is nonsense.
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I can see a marketing guy come to a meeting and say "HEY the S4/RS4 have AWD but our M series don't. We're losing out on market share!!!" and the management go "harumph humm hmph marketing guy has a point" and the engineers going "wtf is wrong with you people" and then next year there being an M3 xDrive.

That was great.
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Even if it were an option, I'd rather go with Audi for quattro than BMW xdrive.

I also don't understand all of the comments saying "I would have bought an M3 if it were AWD..." because of snow. Give me a break. I've driven M3s now for 8 winters and regularly take my current M3 through snow storms and up into the mountains here to go skiing. Good aggressive snows are all you need, and you don't give up the great balance and RWD attitude that the M3 offers over AWD cars. Compromising and buying a car for the 2-3 weeks out of 52 where there may be a lot of snow on the ground is nonsense.

Big to that.


Plus BMW would have to put at least all seasons on their AWD M3 to make it work in snow. If summers tires then you screwed like any other car with them.
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is the next m3 really gonna have 3 turbos?
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