Keeping the M4 or switching to an M2?

16m4comp · 03-04-2017, 12:19 PM

Currently have a 2016 M4 with comp package. Nice Car...

Was able to order an M2, in production now...

Tough choice: keep the M4 or swap out for an M2

History: owned E36, E46 and E90 M3s....

Thoughts?

ppDoc · 03-04-2017, 12:23 PM

It all depends what you are looking for in the car. If you want something that just works out of the box without fiddling with any settings then get M2. I hear M2 is more of a purist version of what a M3 should've been.

Gibson6594 · 03-04-2017, 12:28 PM

Why did you order the m2 if you aren't sure you want it?

JoeyBananas · 03-04-2017, 12:31 PM

Is this real life? SMH.

Not a single person here knows anything at all about you and you want their opinion ?

16m4comp · 03-04-2017, 12:36 PM

The challenge is there are no M2s out there to test drive...only what you read...
some folks may have had the opportunity to have driven both...if there are some previous threads...please post the links...

afadeev · 03-04-2017, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 16m4comp

The challenge is there are no M2s out there to test drive...only what you read...
some folks may have had the opportunity to have driven both...if there are some previous threads...please post the links...

I did, at Lime Rock, at speed.

No way I would pick M2 over M4 (or M3) for any reason, other than price.
Nothing particularly purist about M2.
Just a cheaper car.

I had posted a detailed review of M2/3/4 "///M track day @LRM" last summer.
Search for more info.

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Sedan_Clan · 03-04-2017, 12:43 PM

There's no way that I'd get rid of a ZCP M for the M2. OP, would you have given up your E90 M3 for a 1M (...arguably a much harder decision than a M4 to M2 swap)?

katchup · 03-04-2017, 12:51 PM

M4 all day

Super Spartan · 03-04-2017, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 16m4comp

Currently have a 2016 M4 with comp package. Nice Car...

Was able to order an M2, in production now...

Tough choice: keep the M4 or swap out for an M2

History: owned E36, E46 and E90 M3s....

Thoughts?

Are you seriously serious?

M2 is a wanna be M3/M4 with less power, less gimmicks and features and a worse car in every category. It's for people who want to have an M3/M4 but can't afford it

Sedan_Clan · 03-04-2017, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Are you seriously serious?

M2 is a wanna be M3/M4 with less power, less gimmicks and features and a worse car in every category. It's for people who want to have an M3/M4 but can't afford it.

Possible........and highly likely in many cases.............but its aesthetics and smaller proportions do appeal to some much more than the larger proportions of the M3/M4 (...which is why some M3/M4 owners have made the switch downward), so it isn't completely fair to say that every situation is strictly cost related.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 03-04-2017, 01:20 PM

The M2 drives better than the M3/M4. More power, more options doesn't neceassily make a better car. The M2 kind of reminds you of what M cars use to be.

Keep the ZCP M3 if you care about the status it brings. The M2 is just a fun car to DRIVE.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 03-04-2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Are you seriously serious?

M2 is a wanna be M3/M4 with less power, less gimmicks and features and a worse car in every category. It's for people who want to have an M3/M4 but can't afford it

Might want to check your facts. M2's are selling for a nicely equipped M3/M4. I'm sure M2 owners can't afford them though.

https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...rce=QUICK_FORM

Ian1973 · 03-04-2017, 01:27 PM

I have no interest in the M2. You already own the better car.

Warranty P · 03-04-2017, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afadeev

I did, at Lime Rock, at speed.

No way I would pick M2 over M4 (or M3) for any reason, other than price.
Nothing particularly purist about M2.
Just a cheaper car.

I had posted a detailed review of M2/3/4 "///M track day @LRM" last summer.
Search for more info.

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I agree here, I will also add M2 sounds a little better but it's a slower car in every category.

Sedan_Clan · 03-04-2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

The M2 drives better than the M3/M4. More power, more options doesn't neceassily make a better car. The M2 kind of reminds you of what M cars use to be.

Keep the ZCP M3 if you care about the status it brings. The M2 is just a fun car to DRIVE.

So many points of contention here. The M2 driving better is subjective. What is better? Is better smoother? Rougher? More agile? More controlled/predictable? To some people, more power and options DOES make a better car. Just look at how many people consider cars simply for the power they produce, and disregard interior quality, craftsmanship, etc. of some of the lower powered competitors. Assuming that driving an M3/M4 is all about status is another example of myopic thinking. How about more interior room? Better interior quality and styling? Aesthetic appeal? Etc. From my perspective, it is the size and the styling of the M2 that turns me off. I hate the front/rear bumpers and I don't care for the interior. That is enough for me to disregard it completely.

Super Spartan · 03-04-2017, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

The M2 drives better than the M3/M4. More power, more options doesn't neceassily make a better car. The M2 kind of reminds you of what M cars use to be.

Keep the ZCP M3 if you care about the status it brings. The M2 is just a fun car to DRIVE.

To be fair, I love the smaller size of the M2, makes it more nimble I can say but when I am paying such a high price for a car, I want all the bells and whistle if you know what I mean. I was almost about to pull the trigger on an M2 before getting my M4 but then when I saw how limited the tech features are, can't remember what exactly it is missing I think it has no real time traffic information or connected drive, it turned me off.

Also, they could have made it a big hit but they didn't, why do all colors have the same blue stitching on the leather? I know I am not picking but when I am paying a premium, it has got to have it all, or at least me to add the options I want.

Habber · 03-04-2017, 02:24 PM

Say whatever you want about the M2 but it's a step down from the M3/M4. Unless it's about money, why bother?

The whole allure of the M2 is that it's ALMOST like the M4 but cheaper.

Super Spartan · 03-04-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Habber

Say whatever you want about the M2 but it's a step down from the M3/M4. Unless it's about money, why bother?

The whole allure of the M2 is that it's ALMOST like the M4 but cheaper.

I'd never wanna have a car that's close to anything. give meh teh real deal

gavinsan · 03-04-2017, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Possible........and highly likely in many cases.............but its aesthetics and smaller proportions do appeal to some much more than the larger proportions of the M3/M4 (...which is why some M3/M4 owners have made the switch downward), so it isn't completely fair to say that every situation is strictly cost related.

I have just had m4 competition stolen and am considering replacing with M2 instead of M4 this time around

Will drive the M2 next week before mkkng a decision .

It is not about cost at all

I can have either car but just interested to see if the M2 has better handling and traction

Ex-MINI · 03-04-2017, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

The M2 drives better than the M3/M4. More power, more options doesn't neceassily make a better car. The M2 kind of reminds you of what M cars use to be.

Keep the ZCP M3 if you care about the status it brings. The M2 is just a fun car to DRIVE.

To be fair, I love the smaller size of the M2, makes it more nimble I can say but when I am paying such a high price for a car, I want all the bells and whistle if you know what I mean. I was almost about to pull the trigger on an M2 before getting my M4 but then when I saw how limited the tech features are, can't remember what exactly it is missing I think it has no real time traffic information or connected drive, it turned me off.

Also, they could have made it a big hit but they didn't, why do all colors have the same blue stitching on the leather? I know I am not picking but when I am paying a premium, it has got to have it all, or at least me to add the options I want.

The M2 absolutely has real time traffic and Connected Drive

Sedan_Clan · 03-04-2017, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habber

Say whatever you want about the M2 but it's a step down from the M3/M4. Unless it's about money, why bother?

The whole allure of the M2 is that it's ALMOST like the M4 but cheaper.

True statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

I'd never wanna have a car that's close to anything. give meh teh real deal

...and that's why I want a GT3 or Turbo rather than a Cayman/GT4. As quality a product as the Cayman/GT4 is, it still isn't a GT3 (...nor does it look as good).

Quote:

Originally Posted by gavinsan

I have just had m4 competition stolen and am considering replacing with M2 instead of M4 this time around

Will drive the M2 next week before makng a decision .

It is not about cost at all

I can have either car but just interested to see if the M2 has better handling and traction

That's a fair approach, but I don't think a test drive is going to paint the full picture relative to your seat time in the M4. I'd just hate for you to buy the M2, and then yearn for the M4 once the allure of a new car purchase wears off and you have to live with it.

Sandow · 03-04-2017, 08:30 PM

The M4 is the better car hands down. The M2 looks like its been chopped off in the rear in comparison. Also, the interior of the M2 is incredibly cheap in comparison to the M4. You get a choice of what? 4 colors with the M2? Stay with the M4 you'll regret moving down to an M2.

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ppDoc Second Lieutenant 71 Rep 296 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: FL, USA iTrader: (0)	It all depends what you are looking for in the car. If you want something that just works out of the box without fiddling with any settings then get M2. I hear M2 is more of a purist version of what a M3 should've been.
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Sandow Second Lieutenant 38 Rep 217 Posts Drives: 2016 Sakhir Orange M4 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	The M4 is the better car hands down. The M2 looks like its been chopped off in the rear in comparison. Also, the interior of the M2 is incredibly cheap in comparison to the M4. You get a choice of what? 4 colors with the M2? Stay with the M4 you'll regret moving down to an M2.
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