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      01-12-2014, 08:53 PM   #89
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Other than that i am also curious concerning the revealing of the new C class AMG.Will they do it in Detroit as well?
C-Class is being unveiled, but not the AMG.

http://media.daimler.com/dcmedia/0-9...=1389581518550
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Contrary to everyone here, I like the M3 more ... It is wider than the M4 which makes a difference
Only 0.15" wider per side, not enough to see; it's just a less integrated more pronounced fender bulge. The M3's framed doors are a big downer for me compared to the M4.
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Contrary to everyone here, I like the M3 more ... It is wider than the M4 which makes a difference
Most people on this forum have been saying it for a while. The M3 is much nicer looking. The M4 looks like it could be the next Civic Si. It's a rounded, terrible lump of disjointed curves and odd proportions that has very little classic BMW design language IMO.
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We're the cars test times around Nuremberg ever posted ? Or not yet?
Nurburg The time around Nuremburg would be much longer due to the size of the city and all the traffic.

On a serious note, though, I don't believe BMW ever posts "official" Nurburgring times for its cars. Someone please chime in and correct me if I'm wrong.
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It makes sense that BMW is showing the 4 door with the sunroof and the coupe with the cf roof at the show. The coupe's emphasis is more sport whereas the 4 door is for transporting people in comfort.
It didn't make sense from the beginning that M3 is 4 door to start with so why would anything make sense now?
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I may have missed it, but will the M4 follow the 4 series in having a lower center of gravity and wider track when compared to the M3 and 3 series?
M3 and M4 will have the exact same track width due to the same drive line.
Think thats the reason why M3 has those cool wide fenders.
M4 will have slightly lower center of gravity though, simply because its lower than the M3.
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The perception may be that 2 doors is "sportier" than 4, but in reality I don't think there will be much performance difference between the two models. The M3 will really be the best of both worlds, practicality of a sedan and performance of a sports coupe.

I'm ecstatic about the new CF roof. That is one area I always felt my e90 was aesthetically deficient in comparison to the e92. Even though I live in SoCal and will greatly miss my sunroof, there is no way in hell am I ordering a M3 without that gorgeous CF roof!
I love the sunroof, would never order a car without one. I guess to each his own
CF roof is one of the major standard features of the car. Why remove it for a hole in the roof? I live in CA and my moonroof in my ZHP is practically useless.
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Contrary to everyone here, I like the M3 more ... It is wider than the M4 which makes a difference
Most people on this forum have been saying it for a while. The M3 is much nicer looking. The M4 looks like it could be the next Civic Si. It's a rounded, terrible lump of disjointed curves and odd proportions that has very little classic BMW design language IMO.
^ 100% agreed ... M3 FTW!!
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Yeah too bad no F80 in BSM... I like this color on the saloon

The lighter colors popped more on the E9XM... The darker ones on the new ones except white

The more I see the F82 the more it looks weird... Why no extravaganza? While not roll out the big guns? Bc BMW wants everyone to turn to the I division until they recoup all the funds from hpfp buy backs

I'm sure they will both be very fast

Would be cool to see F80 in frozen blue or grey or even Dakar or VO or SO for that matter

I think BSM over SO would be good for the show with m perf parts
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Contrary to everyone here, I like the M3 more ... It is wider than the M4 which makes a difference
Only 0.15" wider per side, not enough to see; it's just a less integrated more pronounced fender bulge. The M3's framed doors are a big downer for me compared to the M4.
I agree the difference is small .... But I guess it will make a difference ... Please keep in mind I'm saying that based on pictures only, I have to see the car in person to make a more informative decision ... I'm just leaning towards the M3 now
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Most people on this forum have been saying it for a while. The M3 is much nicer looking. The M4 looks like it could be the next Civic Si. It's a rounded, terrible lump of disjointed curves and odd proportions that has very little classic BMW design language IMO.
...and since your wife only allows you to have a sedan, "most people on this forum" consists of 9 guys who have a similar need for self justification.
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Damn that front bumper is fugly and the more I see these cars, the less I like them. I never thought there would be a day that I wasn't drooling over a new M3.
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      01-12-2014, 10:05 PM   #101
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Great show, so many car releases. Detroit Auto Show is making a comeback.
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      01-12-2014, 10:13 PM   #102
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Didn't know an "unveiling" could be so anti-climactic
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      01-12-2014, 10:35 PM   #103
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I've said this from day 1, and I continue to say this.. I'm just not into this car. From the news of when the name would now be "m4" I was turned off, and I am still turned off. F10 M5 and F12 M6 take the cake for this new generation of FI M cars.
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I've said this from day 1, and I continue to say this.. I'm just not into this car. From the news of when the name would now be "m4" I was turned off, and I am still turned off. F10 M5 and F12 M6 take the cake for this new generation of FI M cars.
Thanks for this, that's exactly what I needed to hear from you.
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...and since your wife only allows you to have a sedan, "most people on this forum" consists of 9 guys who have a similar need for self justification.
Riiiiggghhhttt. Except I'm not married and drive an E92. The fact that you're getting so emotional about it tells me you're the one who needs validation.
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Can't believe they are still showing these cars in these same boring colors. I want to see a Frozen Grey M4.
Boring Colors lol

These are the colors that will stand out the most on the road and give the M3 presence and turn heads.

Typical Alpine White or some Kind of Gray would be boring IMO since you will see those way more often!
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Boring Colors lol

These are the colors that will stand out the most on the road and give the M3 presence and turn heads.

Typical Alpine White or some Kind of Gray would be boring IMO since you will see those way more often!
I think the blue on the M3 is fine. As for white, it makes all of the lines very apparent, and a well designed car looks great in white. I'm pretty sure the M3 will look amazing in white and the M4 is going to look even stranger than it already does.
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Ugh, I just noticed the standard stupid reflector again just ahead of the front wheels. I don't know how I've not noticed that until now.

I don't really like the look of the covers that much, either. Perhaps it won't be that expensive to fill and flush.

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...and since your wife only allows you to have a sedan, "most people on this forum" consists of 9 guys who have a similar need for self justification.
Actually this sentiment has been making the rounds across a number of sites and even among folks I talk to in, *gasp*, real life. The sedan's a looker.
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Need to see these up close and personal under some natural sunlight
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