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That's all opinion. Sound is better, steering feel is better, connection to what the rear tires are doing on the road is better, and winding the engine out is epic. With that I love my f82, it is better in some ways, and worse in others, that's why I keep and still frequently drive my e92. Every generation m3 is pretty special and relates something about the era in which it was built. Cars evolve, but the older gens can still provide a special experience.
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I dont think anything is wrong with that tq if the car is well balanced... at 3600 lbs, its a no no.
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Torque at the crank is irrelevent. Gearing changes all that. I personally never felt my E92 lacked torque.
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And it has 80% of that from 2000-8000 rpm- very broad curve
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It's more like 88% from 2300RPM to redline (8400RPM). Pretty impressive IMO. I loved that engine
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I had an e92 for 3 years. DCT. I did love it. But it became kind of mundane to me on daily driving. Sure spirited roads were fun, gunning it around at 6k rpms constantly, but that was pretty rare. Sadly, I didn't get the chance to track it though, but did autocross it.
I have an F80 how. I like it a lot more than I ever did my e92. I don't feel the steering is much worse, if at all. I think it sounds better. The e92 on stock exhaust was so quiet, even if it sounded good (it did) you couldn't hear it, especially with a helmet on. The F80 sounds different, but not worse. And if you are comparing the F80 stock sound to an aftermarket e92 sound, shame. And looking back, the e92 is super dated in appearance. Very bubbly appearing and especially with the chrome grills etc. The F80 is better. But all the interior refinements, daily driver stuff is far away better in the F80. Rear seat space, front seat space, lighter weight. Everything is nicer. If you are looking for a no compromise race car for the track, neither of these are good choices. So if you are compromising for DD ability, the improvements in this area cannot be understated when considering a car. Saying things like "it's a sports car, all that other stuff doesn't matter, derp derp" is missing the point. The interior improvements, etc do matter. And I agree with the poster that said the F80 didn't lose it's soul, you just have to work harder to find it. Slower cars are easier to drive at the limit on the street and feel more full of soul because you are revving it out constantly. The F80 does lose in this regard. But when you push it, yea it's pretty great. If this is the most important thing why aren't people recommending the BRZ or Fiesta ST? |
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